Gulf Air New Sched.
 

Bah auh GFA321
auh rest of the world EY340.
Bah Dxb GFA321
Dxb rst of world EK380
Bah Doh GFA321
Doh rest of world QR 330
Bah Mct Gf A321
MCT rest of world Oman A330
Bah Amm GFA321
Amm Europe RJ 340.

Thank YOu GF for providing passengers to our New Aircraft.

Already JH benefiting from the GF droppeed routes and EY increasing flights to BAH.

"Mike Hunt", how original!
State your name, "Captain", so we can crap in your crew-meal!

Overpaid? Laughable. Perhaps in relation to "regular FA" slave wages.

And there was me thinking you crapped in all the meals! You mean it's supposed to taste like that?:{

Much has been said and written about Sky Chefs in the past.

I cannot help but wonder whether the Sky Chef concept was in fact a very cleaver (and relatively inexpensive) marketing strategy cooked up (no pun intended) by James Hogan.

A Business or First Class passenger wants to make a reservation and looks at the options. All airlines offer lounges, flat-laying seats, nice meals, and obsequious service. But, oh, look . . . Gulf Air has a Sky Chef! Cool! Booking made.

Admittedly, GF has to work on other areas (modernity and cleanliness of the cabin and punctuality), which André Dosé has pledged to address sooner rather than later. However, and without knowing the full costs, I've always figured that the Sky Chefs are a cost effective way to descriminate our product from the competition.

C'mon guys, let's chill out a little bit here and start phocusing on what's really important at this very moment. I'd like to act as the Devil's advocate if you allow me on behalf of the sky chefs. First of all, this guys are not the ones to blame since there were offered this job for a decent salary and they TOOK it as we all would have done it in their cases, wouldn't we?. Second of all, the problem there is not if they are making 1800 or 2000 BD a month, the problem is that the rest of the hard working cabin crew members (specially the bahrainis) are making almost nothing for their work and that's the real problem; nothing will be fix sacking this sky chefs. I really think that what makes you successful in this aviation business among other things is to offer a state of the art service and here is where QR,EY,and EK are light years away from us: immaculate cabins, punctuality, excellent connections worldwide (including code sharing of course). We can't still thinking as pilots only, we have to try to get in the passengers/clients or customers pants as you prefer and think what THEY WANT. As someboby wrote in this thread before, the characteristics of our customers are quite different in this part of the world and think that what they want (among other thing again) is premium service and quality; guess this includes the skychefs even if they are only there to heat up the meals in the ovens but for sure the our customers will be very satisfied despite most of this guys are not Bocusse or Adrian Ferrá.
Nevertheless, i'm pretty sure GF is laughing out loud seeing how we critizise and fight between each other instead of getting together and fight for what we want (I mean get together the whole crew memebers including F/A's, Skychefs, S/N's, Pilots,etc). At the end, without our help no money is produced so believe me guys, THEY NEED THE CREWMEMBERS TO KEEP GOING AND MAKE SOME MONEY.
Any way, based on the history, it's easier to get 20 monkeys together and keep them steady for a picture rather than getting a couple of crewmembers together with an agreement. Our big ego is gonna kill us dudes.
No hard feeling and cheers mates!:ugh:

2 more Bahraini A320 Capt's resigned a few days ago with plenty more to follow if the new boys decide to transfer B767 junior Capt's to the A330/340 out of sequence. I know that a lot of the guys have said that that will be the final straw & the will just quit & head to 1 of the many options next door. But I really hope they don't force the guys to do it since in the end the company would be losing long term Captains.

Yes, it's official: THE BAN HAS BEEN LIFTED FOR GF IN ETIHAD. Guys, don't be the last to upload the CV. Availability of seats are limited though. Good luck GF, and see you in Abu Dhabi.:D :D :D :D :D

HAHA
 

Its amazing to see people .talking about the guud things this guy is doing and now off to EY..Hey GUYS JH and RH the people you have been complaining about are there.It seems it was all sour grapes.
LEts all agree JH did a gud job .he is doing a gud job in EY and a lot of guys here will follow HIm.
Take care JH some back stabbers might be on your doorstep.
The only gud thing Gf crew should do is do a Union for Flight and Cabin crew and Chefs and Fight for the proper cause.

totally agree with you si. If we get together, at least they will have to hear at us. UNION, UNION, UNION, UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Masalama Gf.I think we can now vote with our feet.Enough is Enough.

Guys check out EY Flight Deck Vacancy page...100 command positions and 300 F/O................GF however wonderful it was..not end of the road I guess...some of you gotta stop thinking with your hearts and start thinking with your heads and pockets.................

Everyone seems very sure of passing the EY selection!
:=

Its not gonna be that easy guys and its certainly not guaranteed, you need to do a bit of work!

Is that so? Don't you just walk in say hi and they give you a start date...You must really under estimate the capacity of some of your colleagues.......

:}
EY CAPT PAKAGE :ok:

Starting salary of AED 33000 or US$ 8965 per month for Captains and an annual salary increment of AED 700 per month.
Flight duty allowance of AED 50 per flying hour.
Meal allowance during layovers as per the following rates:
-Middle east/ GCC/ Sub continent AED 12 per hour
-Asia/ Far East AED 15 per hour
-Africa/ Australasia AED 18 per hour
-Europe/ Americas AED 23 per hour

Benefits

Housing allowances up to AED 120000.
(Or)
Company provided housing depending on availability.
(Or)
The opportunity to take advantage of our innovative "Rent to Buy" house purchase programme.
Education assistance of AED 25000 for primary and AED 35000 for secondary up to 4 children from the ages of 4 up to 19 years old.

F/O pakage:{ :

Starting salary of AED 24500 or US$ 6655 per month for First officers and an annual salary increment of AED 500 per month.
Flight duty allowance of AED 40 per flying hour.
Meal allowance during layovers as per the following rates:
-Middle East/ GCC/ Sub Continent AED 12 per hour
-Asia/ Far East AED 15 per hour
-Africa/ Australasia AED 18 per hour
-Europe/ Americas AED 23 per hour

Benefits:

Housing allowance up to AED 115000 per year.

(Or)

Company provided housing depending on availability.
(Or)
The opportunity to take advantage of our innovative "Rent to Buy" house purchase programme.
Education allowance of AED 25000 for primary and AED 35000 for secondary up to 4 children from the ages of 4 up to 19 years old.
42 Days annual leave.
Staff travel benefits.
End of service benefits.
Accidental and life insurance benefits.
CIAO

Sorry guys but I really think that we should at least give somme time to AD ,personaly i think that the best is to come for GF you will see it soon:)

This out in confirmation on Speednews today -

EY Salary
 

Is it really worth the hussle to move from GF to EY??
If you really want to prosper look at Asia Good money cheaper cost of Living.
Cheapest property in Auh around 2500000 DHS for a Villa.u need minimum 20years to pay that with rent to buy.How many GF capts have 20 years more in this career??
Fo Salary bit better than GF but cost of living in UAE lot more than BAH.
INDIA crying for your experience guys.

Etihad server
 

careers.etihadairways.com seems extremely slow today.

everybody in BAH at the same time filling in the application i guess:D

When will the DUB flight be discountinued?

Gulf Air to Etihad???
 

Hi all

i was just reading through all this downsizing and re-structuring of gulf air and was wodnering if many crew are trying to make the move to Etihad? For those that are already crew or have been for gulf, would there much of a pay difference going to Etihad? for better or worse?? I have just been offered a job with Etihad and am going over around June, so was just wondering what the census is with all you gulf crew

Supposed to have been something on BBC a few hours ago with the big guy & the chairman of the board interviewed. They said something like GF can not compete with the bigger carriers in the area & that we will have to become a regional airline & feed passengers to our bigger brothers.
Doesn't seem much of a future. I think we are heading Oman Air's way whilst they will be going international:confused:
Also with the political tensions in Bah ready to explode things are looking better day by day:(

For heavens sake please don't tell me any of you actually believe the fact that they will fire any cabin crew, or expat crew?
It's all a load of b*ll*cks, if they fire any crew they can pretty much for sure ground flights. They intend to fire the "do bu@@er all" office staff and ground staff, they just cannot come out and say it. Trouble is when the media get a handle on what's happening all hell will brake loose. Should make for some interesting reading in the GDN.
In the meantime the gravest error they are making is that all this hype and insecurety will make people run, next thing on the cards is .................. wait for it.

Direct entry Captains ............ on 6 month contract ofcourse.:D

Goodness me will these boys ever learn:=

Anyway sorry must go now as I've got an Etihad interview to prepare for:E

Cheers
Capt Fluffies

Just to get the ball rolling,
How many expats have they fired till now................hhmmm
NONE
All locals VP's with fat salaries, huge ego's, and lots of Armani suits (see VPO) ;)
Nuff said
Cheers Fluffies

Not so hard to get into Etihad, all you need to do is get arrested for smuggling, spend the night in the lock up and get fired...there you have it..easy!

Bombay HF...sounds like fun but???????:confused: :confused:

Well It is official, Check your webmail.
4 B767s to remain till March 2008. With 50 crews.

But they are not on the schedule from 1-July; believe they will only be used on a 'stand-by' basis.

stand by? I hope that means they gut the bloody things. I refuse to fly the 76 in its current fit out. What an absolute disgrace of an ac...I think a cargo ac has a more comfortable and reliable reputation that GF's 76's:yuk:

Ha Ha Ha! I love it. Yeah you 767 guys really are in a position to refuse to fly these day. Stick it to the company ODMEA we are all behind ya!:D

If I remember correctly ODEMA does not work for GF but is a frequent passanger.

Looks like the management is taking the cabin condition seriously and you will see changes soon, especially in economy. They will also be undertaking to ensure that the condition and working order is maintained which has been a real issue. I think our passangers will be pleasantly suprised. Especially as they organize and plan proper connection timing etc.

ODEMA is a GF customer, not a Boeing pilot. He raises a valid point that our new management is addressing. The B767's are being phased out not because they are a bad aircraft, but because the cost to redo the interiors to a suitable standard, and the costs of running a two type fleet are becoming more than what Bahrain wants to deal with.

ODEMA, you should notice a marked improvement in the interiors of the aircraft over the next several months, as well as some of the other issues Trader mentioned.

As for jack's off the cuff comments, the boeing guys are not interested in sticking it to the company. All we're asking for is some information on how many people they need, how many of us are "surplus" and can feel free to look for work elsewhere and how long we have. If we don't get that information i'll assume worst case scenario and guess it's July 1st i'm out of work if i'm not willing or able to sign another 3 year bond on the Airbus. Nice to know they'll keep 50 of us till March next year, that at least gives us an idea of the numbers that will need to leave or sign.

Typically breathtakingly arrogant GF "the customer is an inconvenience" attitude displayed there jackbauer, well done.

B767 to A320 great!!
 

" We are retaining 4 B767 till March 2008, crew complement for these aircraft are 26 Captains and 24 First Officers.

A330/340 manpower meets the network requirements, hence there are no courses planned for transfers to this fleet.

We have an urgent need to transfer both Captains and First Officers to A320 with first courses as follows:

1st May
13th May
10th June
08th July

I would lioke to invite people to apply for these courses, selection from applicants will be as per seniority"

Based on this fact, if you are the 27th Captain or 25th First Officer think about the 320 or resign. No mention regarding Training Bond.

Wait and see...

:rolleyes:

Thank you Bahrainlad, but if you can show me where it is obvious in ODMEA's post that he is a pax I would appreciate it. He is on a forum frequented by GF staff and comments on issues as if he is one of us. There is a forum for SLF which might better suit his origins. Meanwhie I apologise if offense was taken but if you are not clear where you come from then what do you expect. As for the 767, guys I feel sorry about the way things are developing. If you are not dusting off CV's and looking elsewhere you are taking a big risk. In fact that also goes for the Airbus guys too. GF may not be a very nice place to work in 6 months from now and if you look at my past posts you will know I don't say that likely! I have always been a supporter of GF but these days it's getting to a point where there is no good news anymore. Mr. Dose is doing nothing to encourage people to stay. I get the impression he wants to scare everyone into leaving. All this talk about pulling together to make the company work is a load of nonsense when directed at crew. We are the only ones who have nowhere to hide, we must turn up and fly. Our productivity is not in our hands its down to the company. We already fly the max hours every year so what more does he want!! He needs to separate his commumication with the crew from everyone else before there is nobody left to fly his 28 aircraft. Phew!! Feel better now.

It doesn't say anywhere. But who would be stupid enough to assume that someone saying "I refuse to fly the 76 in its current fit out" is a currently serving GF 767 pilot rather than a passenger? :ugh: :rolleyes: :ugh: :confused:

Tis a miracle, Jack has seen the light.

Couldn't agree more with you Jack, Mr Dose there needs to find himself a good PR adviser as his communications skills scare the bejesus out of all his crew. I fear his 28 aircraft plan will work out like a charm but the damn things will be grounded because he'll have bu@@er all pilots to fly them.
May I suggest you don't wast company funds Andre in bringing in professionals to root out corruption (because it aint happening). You'de be better off spending that money on a good pilot recruiting agency cause I figure you'll need it.

Cheers
Fluffies

Hmmm
 

Jack and cohorts...

ODMEA has in fact mentioned that he is a premium pax on this very thread - 11 Apr 07 quote:

"As a 5 yr premium pax with GF I strongly second your entry. I can say GF is no where near as bad as some airlines I've traveled with though. They can however take more pride in presentation. Quick turnarounds shouldn't come at the cost of a dirty cabin.

QR has employed "specialist cleaners" to make sure ac are cleaned to a pristine standard for EVERY flight. I have also been made aware that crew are reprimanded at the end of a flight if toilets are dirty after inspection by ground crew.

AD take note!

Oddy"

Unquote......

Next.

Ironbutt (aka Mr. teamwork, I like GF and I hate eurobrats) is quiet these days, maybe like jack he also gave up on GF and joining Etihad in the near future.

Nice try! ACTUALLY (snort) he won't be joining anyone in AUH...wait to see what he does next! (I know...you probably will be surprised!)
Be cool...LC:bored: