This mangement are doing nothing more than what JH didn't do.

When JH came he stated there were only two ways to go; downsize and restructure or spend your way out. He opted for spending.

Now that has not worked as well as intended, the only option left is to downsize and restructure in order to become efficient and profitable.

Otherwise, it may as well be publicaly stated and committed to by the Government - GF we dont care if you lose money, we dont care if you are inefficient and unproductive, we dont care if the public have little faith in you, we dont care, we dont care, we dont care, we will fund you until the sun don't shine anymore.

The demoralisation of the staff if predominantly through lack of coherent communication, confusing messages and no visibility of the restructuring team, and of course a package that is a long way from the majority of staffs (unrealistic, extravagant, irresponsible and immature) expectations.

Took GF a long time to get into this situation, might take more than a couple months to get it turned 'round...wait and see... there's a light at the end of the tunnel...it's either the other end and the promised land of profitability, or the oncoming train to destruction...time will tell:hmm:

I don't even look at management. The last paycheque was on time, the next one probably will too (with the 200bd increase) and the one after that with the new scale (woohoo!!). I'm not demoralized in the least. C'mon guys, let them do their jobs and we do ours. And if that light at the end of the tunnel is a train, so be it. We'll just move on.
Ignorance is BLISS.

That is the problem brassplate, see if you cared a bit more then perhaps this airline would be better, but you obviously don't

Attention: brassplate
 

""I'm not demoralized in the least.""

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Did you know that Gulf Air borrowed money last month (solid fact) from Standard Charter bank just to pay the salaries?

How.........

And do you know how much that Bank and other Banks have already lent to GF and not yet got back?
This Bank obviously thinks GF as a company will pay them eventually...but do not feel the same about GF staff loans....What happens when the Banks decided to stop digging?
When Chartered Bank closed down in Iran years ago expats with accounts there were reported to have lost all their deposits as the Iran branch was ring fenced
from the parent company who simply said "Tough"....is the Bahrain branch also ring fenced?
If it is...best get your funds immediately moved to a place or Bank where you have depositor protection....be a shame to lose your owed holiday money from GF if it liquidates also indemnity and your money in the local banks and be pursued for your bonds by the liquidators.
Still very hopefull it will not happen....but why put your dick on the.. I hope line?
Fail safe and load a couple of extra tons....liquidations happen sometimes.

Sorry guys, but today is the day of the saviour so I am going to have a nice stiff.......drink at wendy's with all my gay friends who decide on Gulf air's future, care to join me?

Not to get too far off topic but I can tell you that most of the "big named" banks are separately owned subsidiaries. Citibank for sure, as I have asked about their policy of "Force Majeure" and was told corporate (Citibank-NY) will not reimburse funds "lost" at other off-shore Citibank units due to "Force Majeure". They suggested opening accounts in your "home country" for safety.

Fay jinah,
you mean if little me cared a bit more, GF will be saved? Good one!
Am I demoralised yet, CI100? Nope. Like I said, ignorance is Bliss! And I don't care how they get our salaries, as long as they pay it, which they have done a million times.
To put it all into perspective, I only care about doing my specified job as best and as professionally as I possibly can. As for the periphery, I don't see any. There is people there I'm sure who are paid to do their jobs.
If the house of cards come tumbling down, this little card will find a new deck, and you know there's plenty of those around.
So my advice? Do your job, save a bit of money (in case next pay, if ever, is delayed), and be ready to move on quickly if it all falls over.

Oh brassplate you are unique...but not irrepalceable

question for you......brassplate
 

>>>>> as long as they pay it, which they have done a million times. <<<<

So, Lets say: they were paying you 1 BD per month, you are telling us that you have recieved 1,000,000 BD and still working for Gulf Air?

Just something to laugh about.....:cool:

MikeHunt,
gee, well done. You've just described every pilot in the world. Grow up man.
LMAO @ CI100 hadihahaha.

Give me any ligit reason for me to leave without paying the bond and I'll be outa here like a shot. If the airline folding is one of them, I'll take it. Besides, there's better parts of the world to work in and the ME is definitely not one of them.

Brassplate, and everyone else, it's time to ignore posts by M. Hunt. He is not even a pilot with GF and his opinion not worth the bandwidth it consumes. Reactionary and idealistic sums the guy up so don't take the bait!:yuk:

The name is Bond, Training Bond, but you can call me darling...
 

Did anybody ever bring the legality of the signed bonds before a lawyer, and if so, what was the answer?

Please support any possible answers with references to applicable paragraphs in the Bahraini Labour Law

Like I said before you are best ignored at this stage. Do you know what the P's in PPrune stand for? Clue is you are not one, so if anyone should switch off it's you, go back to your kitchen like a good little chef!

Mike,

On the subject of being 'Pro Active', I hope you reported your various slanderous ramblings on the 'Kroll' web-site with proof!!!!:(

Any update on the new package anyone?

Popular Rumour has it that the "package" is being presented to the board on Wednesday? TBC......?
I trust it will be presentable or the handles are going to get pulled in a hurry.
(Know of 3 resignations in my humble circle of friends with more looming, sad but true)

The only thing I heard was 125 BD per child per month. (with that you are responsible for their education, etc.....)

if that is the case it will be 1500 BD/yr

St. Ch.... is 751 BD per term for a total of 2253/yr which will leave you with 753 BD still short.

:ok:

Jack, it would be very interesting to see what MH's comments would be, if he were to get Named and Shamed (as he should if there is any justice in this world!!!) on this web site. But I suppose that would be getting as Low and Petty as he is.:ok:

Well it looks like MH has already started to delete his posts. Spineless as we all suspected.

Let's see maybe you scared him....Jack?

Since few of you want to read or care about what I write, I've decided to leave it for you to see with your own eyes....no need in upsetting the GGF folk, since after all they seem to know what they are doing, and that is probably why they are there now.

Take care everyone and happy flying for however long that is going to be....:\

Errrr I think it'll be till the end of September till we go to EK/EY/QR thank you very much.;)

PS. Loved the title on page 11 in todays GDN. "Gulf Air gearing up for the summer traffic" Yep that would be all the pilots and cabin crew packing up and leaving bahrain :O

They just forgot to mention that Bauer will be staying oversee it...:rolleyes:

Hey Hunt, do the world a favour and throw your keyboard in the bin!

Boy that would be more expensive than all the flegm I shot down Bauer's throat...

I suggest we meet, fancy a drink when I am next in Bahrain, we can have a pprune bash!

What a wonderful opportunity to meet all these great guys from GF...

You overestimate your popularity mate.

Don't worry, I'll let you organise it, fancy making it at the british club, I'll bring my St George's cross.

So, this Wednesday then? I thought it was two Wednesdays ago. What is it about Wednesdays anyway? I fear the delay with the local's retirement/retrenchment deal will only delay ours to Wednesday next week! Again! Is there ANYONE who has a definitive answer to this? As brassplate put it nicely, the "brain-drain" continues.

Mike Hunt....does the phrase "wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire" bring things into perspective??? Dont wait for us to meet you....(paging Mr Mike hunt...has anybody seen mi khunt???)

Mr Moderator, please remove M HUNT from this thread. He is hijacking perfectly good discussions with his CRAP!

Did someone mention Wednesday for the announcement of "the package"?

You mean the letter dated the 4th this month? Why didn't he release it on the 4th then, I wonder? Hesitations.
That puts the roadshow this week sometime. Isn't a roadshow something that's done somewhere other than home base? Maybe because the 'others' had their roadshow so we must also...hmm...keeping up with the Jones eh.

Well, they've got to call it something, and after the last pilot meeting, nobody will bother showing up, if they re-use that phrase...hence: Roadshow.

Me thinks...:8

Don't say I did not give you a chance to meet up.

Or would you prefer JJ's

I have to say in the past two months, every single F/O I flew with said he's leaving.

A couple going to Europe, another to Arabia, one to Qatar and one to Emirates but most going to Etihad.

Gf Package
 

Is their anyone still interested in the GF package?

On the way out whe have also all these greek captains who were on contracts for the last years. They have just been notified that their contracts won't be renewed and they have until September or October to leave Bahrain. After so many years of good service this is a little harsh I think! I am even not greek or one of them.

And also we have the package offered by the Oman Government and Oman Air to the Omani Gulf Air pilot... Out of 90 guys 60 expressed their interess. After all in 2009 Oman Air is getting A330s and will fly to all these wonderful destinations in Europe like London (I am being a little ironic here)!

The next months are going to be quite interesting, I suggest Bjorn you revalidate your PPL with André somewhere on a Piper in Switzerland you might need it!

I don't know if your package will come tomorrow or next month, but for sure the more you wait the more people will leave. And even if you offer us millions of Bahraini Dinars (who thanks to the sinking dollars is everyday weaker) you have to understand that Gulf Air employees and their families are tired of having shock-treatment every 3 year when the management changes.

BD

well said

Even they match the salaries with EK, EY and QR
Even they match the housing
Even they match the school fees
Even they give us a brand new Benz

I no longer want to fly poor mtc'd airplanes
I no longer want to spend in a 39-42 cockpit temp.
I no longer want to spend 7 hours in lounges

Stability, Security of job can not be purchased with money or even a Benz.

Masalama.........