sandwiches anyone?

Hommos or tabouleh?

We've got cheese sambousek for the dimwits!

:E

- hell no, this thread is streets ahead of anything I've seen on Springer. Keep it nice. Sort of nice will do.

4HP

Tjeez....

What's going on here?? Looks like the Jerry Springer show already, no thanks to some of your doing Mascarpone!!

Not sure whether you are troubled by pms or just have a very bitter, generalising attitude...?

As far as I'm concerned CRM stands for:

Courtesy
Respect
Manners

And by the looks of it, neither Flight Deck, nor Cabin Crew seem to be displaying a lot of those qualities around here!!

Lets not forget we're supposed to be looking out for eachoter and not at eachoter with angry and bitter eyes!!

To have that safe and efficient flight, we can't do it without eachother! A lot of us do, both flight deck and cabin crew, thank god for that!! But the fact that the company is not at it's best right now, is there. We should be pulling together and behave like adults, instead of all this childish behaviour. I, maybe in my ignorant way of thinking, thought I was working with at least 90% adults....

The fact that you need to vent, fair enough, but slacking eachother off like this is not gonna help!!

Now, to get back to the subject of this forum,
I've heard the fired ccm's are appealing their case!
Anyone got any news on that?

dinding


You are on the mark, funny though how a thread con be misinterpreted and how some shoot of the hip.

I would expect the courtesy and consideration to the concern raised over the recent events in EK.

It seems though that there is only one school of thought, that of the F/D althoough crew are mostly affected by this.

I am trying to understand what their input really translates to considering they know very little of what happened and the history behind.

No one either seems to read the small print:

I do not disagree with TD albeit for one CCM who I know to be the best one there. People like to drag the husband in the equation but I refute the fact that he has influenced any of her decision making.

As crew we are together and certainly hope that we look after one another. I am disturbed though by the blatant bigotry of some of the F/D and although not ME myself I find their attitude below childish and it hides for me a deep resentment that is wholly due to their inadequacy at facing and handling other cultures not just MEs'.

Now maybe it is good that everyone sees that varying opinions do exist on the matter and everyone is entitled to his own! Some pilots think not and believe that their views must prevail!!!!!!

So basically the other 12-14-16 on board have not got a mind of their own, and if it is the case then surely they do not need crew to make any decisions as and where required in extreme circumstances as in med cases etc... then revert back to F/D for consultaion and support. And this is where CRM is important not just to be nice but also to build trust amongst the crew with defined accountability and roles. Some here seem to think that there is only one buck and it stops FWD of #***

There is also a recent trend where F/D are blatently displaying their assy manners on-board, racism and the lot and this is totally unacceptable particularly when the A/C is not confined to one nationoality but like the rest of EK to a multitude.

Cheers for bringing good sense.

:ok:

Cerberus, quod, desert whine, go suck a lemon!

:ooh:

Is that how it looks now?

Childish behavior? He started it, so there!!!

BTW 'Eastern Med'? Whats wrong with Cypriots??

Oblaspop

Get sense mate youa re a cra.p stirrer and your buck stops here!

Go see if I am at ops!

:cool: Mascarpone:

... keeping you on this thread is depriving some village of an idiot...

Lahm biajin anyone hot, hot, hot.

Alhas tizi!

mach log

Yes by keeping you responding to my threads it certainnly is!

Village idiot!

Have you seen the Village dog?

:E
Perfect example of people who can't handle the truth!

Go see Gibbons mate he'll sort you out, I am in no doubt that these threads are being watched higher up and that your IP's are being monitored and you will all soon hear the sound of the bell calling you to pay your respects to the crew as one should and not act in this blatantly arrogant manner.

Most of you F/D have displayed the most cunning and lowest form of concern for your crew the ones who act as your eyes and ears on your flights.

I hear expressions like: "We fly your butts" and the sorts yea yea
We've seen you lot come out as quickly as you came in, and the proof is in the posts of other EK pilots trying to get out of the bond, not in the attitude of the cabin crew.

From personal experience it's only a few that have that "problem", Mascarpone.

And in their defence, I have to say that a lot of cabin crew have preconceived ideas of FD. Which is not fair. A lot of them are happily married, kids and all and if you chat to them about them ask for pictures, they really like that as well. I'm just saying this to erase this idea that people have about cockpit crew always wanting to get the crew in their sacks. It's simply not true.

As for TD's decision, I believe some were in the right position being ccm and others not. This only for the small amount of experience I have, dealing with some of them. A few, I truely cannot comprehend, till this day, why they were sacked.
(Then again, DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE OFFICE?? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Then also, what I'm actually pissed off about, is that officially, their names have not been released, their names have been spread by sms's and rumour talk..

I don't think that was very professional. At least the crew affected should have been approached, either by a note in their dropfile or email.

Any way, I do believe that a large amount of our FD are decent blokes and open to a nice chat without any intimidation or their stripes weighing too heavy.

It's like with the cabin crew: Its the few rotten apples that spoil it for the rest!!!!

I take every day/flight as it comes and if I bump into one of those rotten apples, it's a challenge, like managing your cabin crew.
I just think to myself then, that they either gathering their period or didn't have sex when they wanted it.

I do the same when approaching one of the rotten apples of our cc's. It makes me smile and makes things a lot easier to deal with!

So Mascarpone, take it easy man! it's bad for your heart and working only against you! Especially in a forum like this!

You know what, I very nearly put this guy on my 'ignore' list about 5 pages back, but I'm so glad I didn't. I'm actually enjoying this thread a great deal, if only to see what moronic, badly written jibberish he comes out with next....

Bravo Cheeseballs, keep up the good work.:zzz:

PS, you mention that you'll bump into me in the Ops Centre, I've worked out who you are..........Your the guy that cleans the bog aren't you!:yuk:

Yeah, Oblaaspop,

He might have started, but some of the replies were on the same level of intelligence.

That's what I was referring to.

Ding Ding

Well good you see as well that we have opinions and that we can debate and discuss them, we are all grown up and I understand that some F/D have a difficult time.

We carry their children and families all the time, we look after them and we make it a point to ensure they also have as pleasant a flight as possible. This there is no doubt about it and it is with pleasure that we will welcome all new comers to this big family.

I just don't like the ranting about ME and the lot, this perspective of some is way out of line and certainly raises an issue over how effective CRM is today.

While I empathise, this issue over the CCM's I agree with you all the way, if you read my previous posts you will see that what we are gathering on the line and off is crew who are totally destabilised and like you they want to know.

I also agree with you that none of this was pro.

I would not like this to happen to anyone including quod and the rest.

This said, I like to share my opinions and I do so in the belief that we can debate and not shot down for every word as if the only ones who are right are the pilots, if we cannot speak on the www where else can we do it?

Oblaspop

How did you know?

Mascarpone,

There are ways to say things..
I don't believe calling people names and bashing is gonna get anyone anywhere.

That's all I'm saying.

I know dingding, there was actually a level of irony (read humour) in my post.

Amazingly though that last post of his was actually quite balanced and measured......I prefer the other side, bring back the vitriol!!!!!!

Oblaaspop!!!!


Behave!!!!

Hahah

Nai oblaspop!

Behave moro behave
:}

IP tunneling services available please call OPS for details!

:E :E :E

Ding ding great posts thanks for the input.

Desert whine; get some cipralex.

Squid boy; get a hat with holes in it, for anyone who thinks like you must be a cepahlopodian!:E

Ree; oh yes enlighten us with your 90degree perspective while Squid's head is stuck to the windshield!

And all the crew, you are doing a great job keep it up and don't let anything faze you.

See everyone at longs on the fourth!

Gring, Gring, Gring!

Hello this is EK clinic, time to take your cipralex Desert whine.

Ashamed of being a trolley dolley?

Oh! Bashfull you! bet you can't even make yourself a cup of coffee without sounding the fire alarm! Let alone wipe your own arse!

But then again like all the rest you are ASS-U-ming!

And I see nothing wrong with being one.

You don't seem to like the mid east or its people.

Leave!

You'll be happier elswhere! back home to your dustcropping!

Take your pay and your dumb blondes with you mate, we've done blondes, done any middle eastern girls? I doubt it she would spit you out before you even think of it!

Your lot are not considered men where I come from. We usually say manyouk or khaneeth! Of course there are other words but not worth my time to go through each one of them.

Just note that I can travel unlike your statement and like it or not probably have the same passport as you and I did not heve to sleaze to get it.

But then again you love ASS-U-ming so I leave you to masturbate your mind further and see what you hatch for us next from that little brain of yours.

You said goats?
You would not happen to be one of those velcro clad sheep shaggers now would you? Its a bit more difficult with goats I hear velcro doesn't work on straight hair, I heard from other New Zealanders that curly bobs and a hair dryer will do the job some of them even have different grade velcor to accomodate the change! Don't have the details though.

And my younger cousins send their best regards, they don't know you though, never heard of desert whine! they are more into Proper wine real stuff if you know what I mean, not the cheap boxes you buy downroute.

Captain! Anything else?

Well i do have a real job, difference being I do work with women because in today's world most men work with women unlike a particular profession which has yet to open up to them.

So when you are not readin the paper, are you counting the hairs up your cockpit mate's arse?

If so let me know I'll get you some extras hot towels and tissue with the sandwiches and banana, just in case it happens to be a training captain!

Tell you what you will never be the same again!

Keep discovering!

Anything else captain?

Jeeze............imagine the fun to be had if you two get to fly together. :rolleyes:

Often wondered what these cheese & wine evenings were about!

I can't wait!

It's beyond me this humour is just taking the best of me!

Say desert whine!

You busy?

Do you need more towels?

Do you want the mars bar?

Desert whine

Are you a samaritan? Thank you for your concern though I am touched! So much so I need to take a quick Cr@p! better now!


Oh! Hamlet Hamlet! Where art thou!

I play with mine harp just for you!

And you stick your finger in your eye

all the way to your elbow through!

:E :E :E :E

Your crystal ball is not calibrated mate suggest you go to the souk and sort it.

My fellow nationals are fine which ones though?

Mid 30's?

Meet a pilot.....so life revolves around pilots?

Why don't you get a serious job so that you can spend more time with your children and family, sad really the greed particularly if you have another source of income and you are still flying, you should really think about that for a minute!
Does your wife miss you or is RT or one of the mexicans looking after her while you are away?

Anonymous......No have you seen someone post their name on here?

Seriously I think you need to get your cipralex mate or stop playing with yourself
It's obviously affecting your eyesight, check the palm of your hand if you have a hair growing in there you've been doing it too much.

Attacking pilots? No not really but the likes of you who bring shame to their profession with their arrogant attitude!

No! really are you reading yourself?

Anyway I am off for a drink you coming? DIMC

4HP, why do you allow this non-sense going on? I agree that everyone should be allowed their opinion but this thread has clearly been hijacked...

Hi nix
Lovely spot you got there, saw some pics. Good on you.

Agree, but maybe marzy is what pprune needed.
A sad billy-no-mate that spends all his energy on this site. While most of us flash thru, this creature spends hours, look at those log-on times.
Maybe potty trained to early and now the world is copping it big time.

Regards to wife and kids.

No, I think I must agree with Nixisfix on this one........

4HP - Please do us a favour and stop this nonsense.

The thread is off topic, has clearly been hijacked and is becoming increasingly offensive. (the cheese-head is responsible for most of it)

Thank you,

SN

This is fun,it reminds me of the good old days of Jet Blast where abuse was an art form. Smegma just misses his mother thats all.

I'll do you guys a huge favour and bid everyone farewell on this thread.

My point was made.


Thanks everyone for allowing me to prove my point.

:ok:

Bye!

You had a point?!?!?

Why I hate flight deck.
 

Ok, so you guys want to know why I hate flight deck....

(My thesaurus and spell chick not working now so please excuse my grammir)

Here is the reason: I always want to be a pilot because I think pilot's get all the girls. Where I come from this is VERY important! I don't like ME girls because they know all our cheesy lines, better I try with European girls. I put TOO MUCH gel in my hair and learn some REALLY SMOOTH lines like: " Your eyes are so beautiful, the stars they fall from the sky and land on your eyes". This worked pretty good until everybody use same line.

I try to be a pilot but chief pilot say my is IQ 75 and this is not enough. At school 75 was a good percentage - so what is the problem!? OK so I become a trolley dolly instead and now I hate pilots.

Go suck eggs.
Eat a Mars bar!
I spit in your coffee!

Ok, Now I finnish! I eat some cheese!?? Then I go to DIMC for a beer!

I take a taxi, because all you b@stard pilots have Porsche.
I have Porsche key ring, I try this new line to get girls....

SO....... any more news on the CCS firings/shake up?

Hey Mascaprone

Quod, you just love insults can't have enough can you?

Think everyone is daft like you not to see the handle?

You hate lebos cause they are too good for you!

Lucky for you I am not middle eastern, I would have otherwise huunted you down the airstairs.

Good on you mate you just show how little understanding you have of the world around you.

Carry on I am laughing!

You and lady M are obviously on the same agenda!

Anything else captain?

Bouza 3a koussa anyone?

The insults have started again!

Another cheese head cum rocket scientist is on-board.

Welcome on-board Macaprone, must have really cogitated your meninges to find this name.

F/D do lack in imagination that's true.

Lady M.

Black stockings please and stilettos!

Not all shaved I hope, Mascaprone has got used to coarse hair from his training captain's arse!

Sorry folks, I've been working - this thread has degenerated to the extent that I have no recourse other than to close it. As soon as I have some time I shall be reviewing individual posts with a view to exercising a little discipline.

4HP

Due to popular demand (and having had the chance to get some sleep) I'm putting this thread back into circulation. Sadly it is clear that mascarpone has abused his privileges & I have regretfully pulled the plug on him. I really don't want to restrict access of others so please keep it nice - but don't make it boring - keep the spice! Get it?

4HP

Now that we have been rid of the Creamy Cheesey one, let's get back to the sub topic of the thread, that of CRM between cockpit and cabin crew.

To this end, I would like to avail my company to the cabin crew for an evening of mutually benficial conversation, a few drinks, a bit to eat and a bit of a laugh. In other words, a date. Yes, let's get PPRUNE working for us, the first on-line Emirates cabin crew / flighdeck dating site! Now that's much more like it.

So what about it girls? I could be the man of your dreams...

Private mail me with staff numbers and photos if possible.

Looking forward to hearing from you ;)

Oh well;

There you go leave it to F/D and it has to degenerate.

Seems these guys get so frustrated with working up the front that they can't keep their minds to themselves.

Yes anyway lady M. photos will be great, but not to worry I make more money than all the pilots put together!

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