QR rules & regulation
 

Am new in airline and just jojn A330 fleet .
3 days a go i had a flight and cabin crew told me she was called into QR tower office and told that she is reported by C/S that she served cockpit crew a orange juce and its a violation of QR procedures and if she do it again she will be terminated and she was hande oer a warnning letter .
Can i know is that true ? If its true i have to resign ASAP
The place from where i come from is different she could put them on court an win easy for that kinda sh...
If i remember she mention some guy Elias so plz friends have it in youre mind when you fly with him or deal with him . what come around goes around .

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New pilot330:

We have people with a VERY VERY low level of maturity here.
The next step will probably be the promotion of the C/S to CSD ASAP for "good service" to the company.This is part of Qatar Airways CRM....:\

The regulation is one thing..., lets assume orange juice not allowed for cockpit... ok fine, i can live with it, so in the case mentioned the C/s could have simply told (IF she was honest and behave like an adult...:uhoh:!!) the f1 "you known this is not allowed,you shoud not do it". Point, end of the story.
BUT going into the office and REPORT your colleague for that, this is something AMAZING,and just reflecting the Kindergarden & hypocrite mentality of some people here.:mad:
Indeed i'm afraid in that case NEWPILOT A330 that you will have to resign ASAP..:{
Ma'al salama.

I have to ask,
why exactly is orange juice not allowed on the flight deck? :confused:

There are a bunch of sick people around here:ugh:

I also have to ask. What's the big deal about OJ. (No, not that one in LA but the one in Doha):confused:

Capt Krunch
 

If its a same P/O and i guess there is only one with that name i think you are wrong that he is a "nice guy" . If you want the true aske Australian Capt on A330 who was reported by same P/O for taking rest in empty first class instead in buisness class almost full during KIX flight . That P/O reported Capt and Capt was dedacted 20k rials for using a FC seat .
Or if you still think he is a nice guy aske a Croat Capt on A320 what he did to him and there is more and more . He will smile and when you turn wooops it hurts .

New pilot A330 dont trust anyone in QR its all joke and reporting is consider as loyal in this sick enviroment .

Incredable
 

I just cant belive what you guys talking about .
And you Capt Krunch know even a page in part A this is also wierd i take part A only as reference not as granted i would like to use brain instead .
I was told when i jojn that Qatar is the most rich place in the world and standards are so high but now i cant have dates and orang juce and someone told me a capuchino as well .
And some crazy person will stop my upgrade if i dont button my jacket thats what i was told by one crew .

NO NO am gone to Etihad . And i will not resign . SOP this days in gulf :leave car on airport parking and travel .

Kix -doh
 

There was several reports about cockpit crew taking rest in FC so this one is not isolated case and for sure i know 1 of them and maybe 1st was with that P/O. He is famues for acting nice to crew but after REPORT.

Whats a big deal of using an empty first class seat ? I tell you nothing its just a hate against pilots there is no normal reason to restrict using a empty seat in FC . We been doing it for 2 y till cabin crew didnt even know why we rest and where and how then Mr P/O explain them .

So who is crazy one who drinka OJ or one who restrict it ? lol lol
Its just a big joke i dont care i dont aske for it i just go and take it my self . Anyone has anythuing to say i brief dont tell me what am alowed what am not ( thats what some CSD do ) i take what i need and if you are not happy you can writte to anybody you want .
.Only an retarded idiot can report a fellow crew member for this silly things .
I was not reported till now for that lets se a future ( 4 y in airline )

If "high quality" OJ is off limits for pilots, do they then only consume Economy Class food during the flight? What type of food do they normally eat for meals on longer flights? Good quality? Peanuts?

Is this "OJ" off limits treatment common among other Gulf airlines like EK, Gulf Air and Etihad? The OJ itself is not important but the high-school level of jealousy and suspicion is a bit disturbing... I realise it is probably a cultural issue but it would not help one relax on the flightdeck knowing every move could be monitored and reported. With no pilot union I guess you should not expect protection. Just do your job and go home.

Dont make too much out of it guys...


1) On the " performance service" flights (mostly europe and long haul) there is 1 bottle of fresh OJ on board, labelled flight deck crew! Just tell the R1 you ara aware about that...

2) Treat people the way you want to be treated and you ll get whatever you want in general. Just show some respect for their job, wait till service is finished and you will be fine!

3) KIX flights...well...what is there to say? Cabin crew dept created a hype over this which has made it impossible! I was reported long time ago (start of KIX ops) for taking rest in first class and allowing the cabin crew to do the same! F was emty so whats the big deal? Still we got reported by own crew!!!Did not have to pay the ticket though :}

4) rotten apples are to be found everywhere. Usually I can tell the moment I meet the crew. On those flights just watch out! All the others I am having a ball!



Iver, there is a general rule which says crew has no rights to ask for passenger ammeneties such as OJ, dates, caviar etc....This is normal I think, as these people are the ones paying for that stuff. Just be reasonable and you will get all of this once the service is finished and there is plenty left!

As pointed out before, these rules where started after some of our more retarded colleagues claimed everything for themselves, leaving the paying pax with juice out of the box!

COMMON SENSE!

OMG...come to kuwait airways
 

i cant believe it actually.this is so mean.u have to come and see how the deck crew in kuwait airways r treated.like royalties.they can eat and drink anything they ask for.they have tier own trolley full of fresh juise selections,salmon,sweets,deserts and it is not enough they always eat from F/Class pax food.not only this..the deck crew in Kuwait airways drinks only EVIAN water.its supplied on board only for them and no one is allowed to touch it.when they enter the plane the crew has actually to prostray themselves in the captains feet and greet them.not only this but when R1 is doing the service for 24pax in First class and is extremely busy in the same time the GODS CAPTAINS start calling from the cockpit to ask for the food they want 2 eat IMMEDIATELY.not only this but on any immigration counter the captains have to go first no matter if the crew came there before them.not only this but the crew have to carry the bags for them to the overhaed bin.and i will not continue coz u wull get disgusted

Misstabula..even in Q.R we have EVIAN water for flightdeck..:O

Let me tell you about a captain who travelled on a cockpit jump seat for his home country on a 320 full of pax.

Lunch time, the jump seat captain excused himself to eat in the back….the F1told him there was a last minute no show in the economy class, he said ok..will take that seat to eat but it was in the tail of the plane, so she offered him to eat in the first class seat (no pax in that last row of first class) he said OK it will take me 10 minutes only.

Who came while he is eating??? The CS.. she started shouting at him : "who gave you permission to sit here? Did you ask or did she offer this place for you?" he told her not to shout and not to interrogate him, when done eating I will be back in the cockpit, he said.

To make a long story short… she wrote a report and asked F1 (who suggested the whole thing) to write also a report against the captain saying he insisted to sit there against everybody's will !!!

Result: captain is punished by paying QR 3000 off his salary for the difference between economy and first class ticket (for the 10 minutes he spent on that seat)!! CS was a Chinese named Chen Dan or close it.
The word is she will be promoted to CSD very soon (unless she is reported by another crew)!! and that's how it goes....

No (premium, fresh squeezed) OJ in the flight deck
 

And there was me hoping it was to stop you spilling it on the centre console! :ok:

Misstabula
 

I'd guess that you are recruiting drivers to Kuwait Airways. Aren't you? :E

Guys we need to start making a blacklist of all these idiots crew who are reporting pilots for such stupid things!! So next time we fly with them you know what to expect...
And also, may be one of those idiots may request a jumpseat in one of our flights! and I would be glad to say := NOOOOO GO TO HELL!!!
Hopefully, there are still some nice CSDs/CSs in the company but probably 30 per cent MAX i would say, but unfortunately the good ones are always leaving... and then you have the ones who are SO SCARED of getting demoted or loosing their jobs that they ll report anything they see just like robots and no common sense at all....
And the worse ones are the ones who really think that a CSD should be in the TOP of the chain of command and have no respect at all towards the flight deck with a very bad attitude... Some of them just think we are not better than a karwa taxi driver... :ugh:

qatari001, this is a great idea, we have to make a black list of all these idiots, and let them always watch their back, deny them any jump seat requests...etc.
It is of most importance to expose them among all the staff.
We already have 2 names in this thread...Elias and Chen Dan.

Best Idea
 

BEST IDEA to blacklist those people which go and report rabbish to the office .

When i fly with some seniors i will aske and make my own list so this people will not get jump seat and will not get any extra help on flights and if they do mistake its a oportunity for pay back if not for me then for someone who was reported by them for silly things.

And we have to disclose this people and this is place to do it .
In mean time i already apply to Etihad .

Qatari001:
Well i don't known wich one is the more demanding(challenging) job you known,..:
Flying an aircraft or driving a car in Doha (taxi driver..)..:}?

Good idea fellas...list down all these idiots name for all the pilots community to know and watch out for...

Finally I see some kind of unity in QR pilots..:ok:

Union...anyone....:}:}

But seriously... list down the name quickly. It won't be a secret since it's in the prune. Good thing 'bout it... they will know it too and hopefully be more wary next time..

Elias,
Chen Dan,

next....

some help
 

Dear Cpt,
is it true that Qatar CAA counts only 50% of flight duty time if you have a bunk on the plane were you can rest(es B777), like you can actually fly 150 a month and it counts only for 75?

What are the duty limit so far in Qatar, FDP and DT

I have being told about the fatc that you can request for 4 days off at the end of the month and 4 at the beginig and rostering quite often give it to you?

Are paying you the stby?How many hours you are on duty for stby?

Thanks for helping:ok:once again.
Sergino

Good idea buts lets incorporate the new line trainers who want to save the world by telling new f/os how to sit, stand, and were to put their hands to a 10,000 hour pilot

As for this Elias, I think he's one of the Performance Officers...

Nice to see QR pilots united in 1 idea
 

Let me contribute :
Elias : big time reporter he have already few people got in deep sh... coz of him
Chen Dan
Nevnite : favorite of 9 floor and also famues of telling what cockpit want
Clint :reporting R1 if she serve dates
Franceska Loco :reported Latino capt for nothing worth mentioning
South African white boy Csd : big time reporter to Salia
Liza C/s D reported Capt for resting in F/C : - 20 k from salary

Sorry if anyone has somthing with this people but its all true
Happy top see QR pilots on this forum come up with souch good idea :D

Emma Gemma
 

Hi sorry am new but whats "PERFORMANCE OFFICER" is that like police for crew ? Or is someone who performe so good so he is officer ? whats that really ? and if this is somthing to do with young and new cabin crew can i also apply to become that Performance Officer i mean am already a first officer so i guess it wouldnt make a long course or CCQ to become that Performance Officer ? am i right ?

Performance officer ( PO ) is a checker / disciplinarian for the Cabin Crew.

well while we are at it, does the name Levy Mae come to anyones mind.. loves to tell Capt what to do and how to do then report them.
and that SA white boy is Jonathan.

WzT

I am keeping note of these names,
to deny them any jump seat request.
and give them the treatment they deserve.
This is one way of stopping the spread of this cancer.

I appreciate any true inputs to expose all the name of those ills.

Thanks and keep it coming.

Totally agree with you ramiyns.... will do the same too... keep it coming guys.. at least now we know the names of these idiots..

ceo pita...just small correction on that p.o name... it's Navneet Kaur me think..

Well done boys...:ok:

It will be better to have a complete list including the family name but i think we can't here.
No IT geek among us to start a web site jsblacklist.com or something like that..

I would be more then happy and to make a site and host it and Get *cough* donations *cough* for the domain, even though i dont work for qatar. I feel it for you! :ugh:

Just PM with a name or any information so i can get it all started for you :ok:

OK lets also start a list of the nice any easy ones as well.

No jump seats for spyes in the sky, I will remember.
 

I totally agree with my colleagues, no jump seats or any indulgence to these :mad: people. They have to learn how to behave and work as a team.
I will remember...
Regards and good flights.

Is Sameer (I think that was his name) still there? A very nasty CSD who spent his layovers completing reports on crew and thinking of ways to mess with the crew on the inbound flights. He would snap back at you if you dared to speak to him!

I remember a trip from BKK and one of the crew was a few minutes late for pick-up because he didn't get the wake-up call. This particular CSD insisted that we would leave him behind and let DOH take care of him. The CPT, a very nice guy from Australia, said we should wait for him and that's also what we did. DOH did also take care of this guy, as well the CPT, as the CSD wrote a report on both of them.

There should also be a CS (or CSD as I would imagine as she's probably been promoted) around there, named Houda from Morocco, who runs to the HQ after every flight and gives them all the latest gossip. She's a really nasty piece of work.

keep the good work
 

Good Idea!!!!,
Good post Bansai !!:D
Rgds
Le Capiten Banana