Yes you are, oh pretty poor you. :{

hi,
I am thinking about applying for QA,
Rated on the A320. Can I expect any fleet upgrade in the future?
Are they really so desperate for rated FOs? I am happy in my company but considering to move to the sandpit with my family and so stop commuting.

Ouai mais en face ya pas le droit de faire joujou sans AP :8
Mais si ya trops de tocards comme celui 2 posts au dessus je te rejoindrai a la nage :}
(jeudi c'est pas la derniere O/N, encore une bonne semaine :ugh: on y est presque!)

Peritto, depends how experienced on 320. Some are getting 330 (whilst people waiting internally for upgrade). Others getting 320, safe bet and most probably expect A320.

Need the pilots, urgently.

Thanks THR MCT for all this "encouraging" news,sure its gone Boost the (already) low morale of 320 skippers!!:\
just hope you are wrong...:}

Since a medical is not part of the interview, at what point does a pilot otain a QR CAA 1st class medical?

Usually during the first couple of weeks after joining ... but it might depends on your ability to pass at the first shoot!

Qatar exam
 

hi pilota16 . can you suggest a reviewer for the qatar pilot technical knowlegde exam. thanks

Qatar exam
 

Hi everyone. can you tell me what reviewer to use for the qatar flight deck technical knowledge exam. thanks

... sorry ... ACE and JAR ATP quiz and you'll be fine ...

20% pay raise for new joiners?
 

Guys Hi!

I got a letter of employment back in June, as fast track 2nd officer A330, but ive heard that a new contract will be sent out with the new TRAINING BOND which is fine but i heard the 20% pay rise that everyone got wont apply to new guys like myself...?

Anyone have any feedback on this?? please? :confused:

ALSO:
Says 30 days LEAVE per year? Thought it was 42 days? or is it only 30 until you finish the FAST TRACK 2nd officer part??

@Shamonwillye

The 20% pay rise is not applicable to SO. It's only for FO, SFO and CPT. It is 42 days a year. I think it's a mistake in the contract. When I joined as a SO it also said 30 days but once I found out from the chaps who do the leave, they said it was 42. Congrats on the selection btw! :ok:

@ shamonwillye

I've been trying to find out for so long what the actual package is for a Fast track SO. Would you enlighten me?

Also, do you know how long you expect it to be until you move to FO?

Thanks in advance

oh, and what was your experience level?

Thanks

Hi
Does anyone knows if there is any chance to apply without the min 1000 jet time but quite close to that and rated on A320?
At present near 900 jet time

Thanks for the info

@ turn_in_too

SO package is 10,000 QAR per month (including transport allowance) plus flight pay of 90QAR per hour after safety FO is released. A 3 year bond applies and 50% of the bond amount is deducted from your salary after your first check to line for a period of 18 months. This depends on your bond amount but numbers floating around on here suggest $1389 USD/month. The total sum of these payments will be returned to you without interest when your bond expires, ie 36 months.

Fast track SO is somewhere between 40 and 80 sectors from what i can find, so in terms of time it will depends on which fleet you land on. A320 I would only expect max 2 months as SO but A330 possibly 6-8 months.

@perritopiloto

You can either wait to meet the FO requirements of 1000 jet (the website won't let you apply if you don't meet their requirements), or apply now for fast track SO which only requires 300 jet. IMO there is only a month line training difference between the two so who cares??

Note I don't work for Qatar I just read through the last 50 pages of this thread to find this information :)

@ aviationboy

Firstly a massive thank you for trawling through all that to provide the information, very kind and much appreciated.

So basically sounds like you're skint till you move on to the FO salary. 10,000QAR is working out at about $2,700 a month and if they are taking $1400 away, living on $1300 would be very very difficult.

Hmm choices choices. Think I will have to exhaust all UK options first.

Thanks again

No problem. The bond repayments only start after your check to line as FO, so you won't have to pay that out of your SO salary. You will still get the full $2700 a month as far as I am aware :)

turn in too

The bond starts after final line check so you will start getting flight pay which in effect will pay for the bond so you will be on $2700. You wont be on $1300.

thanks again, thats sounds much better and far more reasonable.

Seeing as you guys seem to have quite a handle on this please excuse me for asking another question.

Somewhere it mentioned that staying in the company accommodation was at a cost which was then deducted from your monthly salary? Is that correct, ie is it the $8000 per month as advertised for an FO then minus living expenses, and the bond?

Final question, there does seem to be a lot of negative comments about being an expat for Qatar, any experience of this, or is it ok as long as you go in knowing what to expect?

@ turn_in_too

As far as I know, there is no charge for company acommodation. I am not sure if QR gives you the option of this or housing allowance though.

I don't think being an expat will be a problem, there are many expat pilots there. Plus it sounds like everyones common hatred of the company brings them together :E

The atmosphere isn't much more relaxed in so called greener pastures EK & EY ... more money but more expensive life (probably higher quality too) ...

30 guys recruited per month for various fleets and something like 107 resignations since Jan - in a period of "rapid expansion" the numbers literally don't add up. :yuk:

to get people to join Qatar Airways, it needs to offer:

1. Pension
2. MORE MONEY

People don't go to Qatar because they like the scenery/relaxed atmosphere/wonderful management....they go there for the cash.

So to get more pilots you need to pay up on 1 and 2!!!

Else more leave is cancelled = worse conditions = more resignations = more leave cancelled = less joiners etc etc etc

Management, go to management school, do the classes, get a grip and try sort out your problems and enable the poor chaps there to live and work for fair pay and fair treatment.

what to do, what to do?????

AV8Whore:
I think we can summarize the actual situation in Qatar Airways today by one sentence:
"Qatar Airways is expanding well beyond its "capacity"."

This company has been using the expression "Expansion" as an excuse for MEDIOCRITY for way to long.

The company culture here is that of a spoiled child pointing fingers and never mature enough to accept its responsibilities and grow from its faults, and like such a child will eventually never make it in the world on its own and doomed to live in a vicious cycle...Of course unless daddy government is paying the bills...

One last note (And not meant to insight any racial grudges) How come there is a "Necessity" for our leave to be screwed in Christmas time and New Years and yet non for Ramadan? Wouldnt it make more sense for the Non-Muslim crews to operate during the holly month and for the Muslim crews to operate during Christmas holidays? That way everyone gets what they want...

This is e very good idea ... to bad you are not managing the show!

I AM PLANNED FOR INTERVIEW ON THE 16th OF AUGUST, ANY BODY ELSE PLANNED FOR THOSE DATES AND ONE MORE THING THEY HAVE WRITTEN TECHNICAL EXAM ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT ?

The new development Barwa sounds interesting if that may be offered to crew in the near future :confused:

@ hazy

is that for fast track SO or FO?

To help with the 320 crew shortage we will soon be welcoming contract Capts who will be offered commuting contracts. The deal will give a block of approx 7 days off per month but this will not be available to present employees.

That should cheer everyone up:eek:

So everybody will resign,and re-apply for this commuting contract!:8

Well if commuting contract is possible for contracts pilots..it should be possible for all 320 pilots.!!
And the Shortness of crew as well as the resignation rate will be quicly resolved,believe me!(even if it goes with a cut in the salary).

I've heard that too and Paramount seams one of the recruiting agent!

I do confirm :"paramount" is recruiting A-320 Captains and F/O for Qatar airways...but nothing "officialy" mentions commuting contract.
But if people are looking for a commuting contract,they won't come to qatar, better options exist in Saudi,China( 6weeks on 3 weeks off), for almost the same salary as here!
"Terms and conditions..will be "discussed" during interview!":}

Call Parc Aviation!

Qatar Airways is so cheap they need to use a second rate agency like paramount. Why not Parc or Rishworth, anyway no were does it state that commuting is on offer. Qr is capable of promising just so you will come then change the story once your here. welcome to Doha, the unhappiest place on earth.

Any body could help , what to expect in the technical quiz

School fees: minimum age 4, Maximum age 21.

@ Fuba
And in what terms Parc or Rish are better than Paramount? You might help new joiners to choose one or the other!

July 19th
 

anyone who attended the assessment on july 19th got an answer yet?

hazy 85
 

Hi ¡, check your messages. Did you received travel arrangements ?, please PM
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