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skya320 9th Mar 2010 16:46

More Indians are coming? Oh boy:mad:

Blacksteel7 10th Mar 2010 09:30

skya320
 
From now on the first contact with the ATC we must say:
Namaskār”instead of As-Salāmu `Alaykum”. :}
What to do, what to do ???? :{

ACH-HA,CHALTA HOON = GOODBYE! :E

Victor 11th Mar 2010 14:01

Hi guys.

Just a few questions, as I am trying to gather as much info as possible before taking the final decision to join. Have been reading like a mad man on this forum, and there are so many posts, so it would be nice if one of you guys would spend 2 min answering my questions:

Aproximately how long does the 777 type rating course take? Is there a lot of waiting time? How long from when you join until you are flying on the line?

On the same fleet - what can a F/O expect to be paid. I assume they would put me in company accommodation, so am just interested in how much the average flight pay pr month is on top of the 18000 basic salary.

And when talking company accommodation - what condition is it in? Facilities like gym/pool/internet? Or am I asking stupid questions now? :-)

Being single with a girl at home, I would be interested in knowing, if she is actually allowed to come and visit me/stay for a few days. Does she need a visa?

And one of you guys on the 777 - how many days in a row is it possible to travel home? Shall I forget about it already now, since the max days in a block really is 3?

Thanks for your useful comments

Fubaliera 11th Mar 2010 14:26

3months to get online
no commutting
only 3 days in a row a month.
28,000 for 777
the rest you have to figure out your self.

Victor 11th Mar 2010 14:38

Ok - thanks a lot

Was not a matter of commuting, only a question whether or not it is possible to fly home to Europe for a few days, maybe once every 2 months apart from the 42 vacation days

skya320 12th Mar 2010 16:06

As for your girl visit. It's depend on what passport does she hold. If she has EU passport, UK, US, and Canadian passport then she can enter Doha by paying for visa on arrival. Other passport must obtain tourist visa, which can only be apply for by the hotel (hotel booking required)

Compound for F/O is full right now (Ain Khalid Gate)
New compound for F/O is Holiday Villa (Serviced Apartment)

TAP 12th Mar 2010 18:13

So out of the two.... where would you choose and why?

thedick 15th Mar 2010 16:43

For the pilots who are working in QR.Has there been any talks about the number of pilots you are goimg to need when 787 and A350 are coming in service.planning to apply. Thanks in advance:ok:

Capt Krunch 16th Mar 2010 06:49

thedick .. nice one.

when I joined just under a decade ago. QA had 26 aircraft. 5 years ago QA had 40 aircraft. today QA has 80 aircraft. in 2013 the plan is for 120 aircraft. .. what was your question ?? :ugh:
if your planning on joining do some home work.

QA has been hiring pilots for years and years now. it has been a non stop on going process. Nothing has changed over the years, or should I say.. everything has changed over the years and will continue to do so. The goal post are never in the same place. :sad:
There have been many western pilots who have just joined the the ranks of QA, remember all this is nothing new to those of us who have been here a while.

seen thousands come and seen just as many go.


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thedick 16th Mar 2010 17:40

Hello capt.K I think it is a nice one also. My guestion about the new planes is that how many guys one plane needs ? What I have also seen during past years is that people are coming and going all the time no matter what is the place. About the QR I have been watching the company already since 1997 when I was in OMAA couple of years seeing old 727 s jumping around the gulf area and it was in those years 97-99 when they started to expand. Nowadays I have been reading messages here about the QR and I have to say that there is nothing new in these stories.some like it ,some not and that is their opinion. Now if you QR pilots have any idea when 787 will arrive I would be grateful so I can plan ahead:) . At the moment I am current on 757/767 and meet the criteria for DEC. Once again thanks in advance :ok:

larssnowpharter 16th Mar 2010 17:45


Being single with a girl at home, I would be interested in knowing, if she is actually allowed to come and visit me/stay for a few days. Does she need a visa?
Others have replied re the visa issue with the necessary gen.

However, if you get caught sh@gging you are - at least theoretically - breaking the law.

Do so discreetly and have never heard of a problem.

Capt Krunch 16th Mar 2010 18:23

larssnowpharter


Do so discreetly and have never heard of a problem.
you can read it in the local tabloid nearly every day about Illicit relations. some get jail, some get lashes as well as jail and deported. I dont commonly hear western expats getting into the sh^t .. BUT the fact remains they DO and are quite active in perusing illicit relations in this country. The capital court house jail has many persons in for Illicit Relations. so just because you have not heard of it do not think it does not happen.

being discreet is the right thing to do. but once again, buyer beware:eek: This is not a normal part of the world.

thedick

nice to hear your familiar with the area.
It might not be in your best interest just to wait for the 787 expecting a DEC position. Keep in mind if the CCQ is approved then all B777 guys will fit into the 787's


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wannabejetpilot 17th Mar 2010 10:43

Hi guys,

I got called for an interview for the position of s/o. I thought it was going to be only a technical exam but apparently they have an english, maths, physics, technical, aptitude and psycho test. Sounds like it's going to be a long day.

Well I am not here to ask what questions are going to be in the exams, but does anyone have the slightest idea of what they are going to ask for the physics and maths part? Do you think they would ask stuff like integration and differentiation? And how about the physics part? Strangely, I am quite comfortable with the technical, only worried about the maths and physics part...

Also, are they going to ask performance A or B? Hope to get some answers that would help me out... Thanks a lot!

Mr.White 17th Mar 2010 12:43

Capt Krunch

For your posts I see you have a lot experience in Qr. At this moment Im a B767 Capt with 6000TT, 2000PIC in B767 and 3300 SIC in B767.

Based in what you have seen during this years in Qr, what are my chances to get a B777 DEC position in Qr???

Anybody fliying in Qr, feel free to give your opinion.

Tks for your time,

Best Regards,

Mr.White

mile low 18th Mar 2010 02:09

Hi,just wonder if somebody tried to apply recently.Finally it is possible to store the application form.But everytime I send the application I get it back,can not get delivered!!!Used following address,[email protected] and a yahoo email account.
Any advice?
Thanks in advance

Capt Krunch 18th Mar 2010 05:09

Mr.White
(a player in one of my favorite movies of all time)

I'll never tell anyone not to try, But just realize your very much on the low side of experience for a DEC position. There are hundreds of applicants that have double or more of your time that are presently in the queue.


you just never know.


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169west 18th Mar 2010 06:21

Capt Krunch

what is consider competitive for DEC and DEFO according to nowadays demand? thanks

Capt Krunch 19th Mar 2010 08:42

169west

there is no correct answer for you. right now as we all know, there are many experienced pilots on the market looking for work. So the bar is set quite high. There was a time when we had trouble finding guys with decent experience and the guys that met the min requirement got jobs. (that was an ugly time, and some are still with us :{) That would not be so quick to happen today, but then again that may / will change with tomorrows market.. it's aviation no matter what part of the world your on.


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Mr.White 19th Mar 2010 11:12

Capt.Krunch

Tks for your answer, anyway I have to try....

Best Regards

Mr.White

karimmoghrabi 19th Mar 2010 17:49

I had the same problem. Couldn't get my application through after several attempts. I got in contact with the flight deck crew recruitment team and they told me to fill in the application and once it was filed out to scan it and resend it to them. I'm guessing that worked as I know have an interview for the second officer position in May!!!

169west 19th Mar 2010 18:52

Cap Krunch

Thanks and yes the bar has been raised!

goosensheep 20th Mar 2010 11:28

Anyone knows if I will receive a confirmation that my application has been received from QR?
Send it some time ago but hasn't heard anything. I send via email. Should I send with ordinary mail as well?

Thanks

abel.amir 22nd Mar 2010 05:06

Orders from the 9th Floor is not to give any current pilot employed with Qatar the Holiday Villa.:( :{
Strictly reserved for "NEW JOINERS" according to the short window cleaner that works on the 9th Floor. :E

Capt Krunch 22nd Mar 2010 07:26

abel.amir

there is noting new about that. When the new pilot accommodations were first introduced at QA, it was also the law of the land that it is ONLY for the new joiners and senior pilots would have to find there own place to live. At one time it was the only was QA could have pilots even consider joining the airline (pre-economy crash). Even today it would be very difficult for a senior pilot to get into company accommodation, not impossible but not easy. Then again, from what I have witnessed.. it's better to be far far away from the spying eyes of company housing.
being surrounded by QA staff is not my idea of the "not bringing work home" concept.:ugh:

Shut'em down, get out, drive home and forget any of it happened.. until the next trip.
:E

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Capt Krunch 23rd Mar 2010 16:47

jetstreamhoney

to be perfectly honest with you thats a bit to long to not be contacted. You might have read on this thread that some guys wait months to be contacted and thats quite true for Pilots. For Cabin Crew the process is much less complicated and usually within a week or 2 you would get a call / email. If the airline rejects you'll never know because they do not call you, on occasion they have been known to send a email. if they did call everyone who was not accepted they would need someone who could do that full time as they interview hundreds of applicants every month.

I dont want to be your barer of bad news, you might still have a chance. I will also add that you might have fallen thru the cracks or information misplaced. if you have a email contact or something of that nature then at this point in time it won't hurt to make some form of contact, so you know for sure where you stand.
good luck.


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jetstreamhoney 23rd Mar 2010 17:20

Thanks for that Krunch,

We were told we would hear after 3 weeks at the interview so was holding out til then. They said we would definitely hear either way though and have been on a few forums for cabin crew and there are people who have received both congrats and regrets emails. I spoke to a couple of others who were also on my AD and they haven't heard either so was still hoping....I agree with you though, it doesn't look promising. Was going to leave it til Friday and contact them then if I still haven't heard anything.

mile low 25th Mar 2010 11:50

Does anybody know how long it takes after the inital application until Qatar Airways responds? Have applied a week ago and haven`t heard anything yet.Just wonder if they received my appplication at all after i some problems sending it before.
Thanks for sharing any experience

Fubaliera 25th Mar 2010 12:11

If you have a job, its a blessing

mile low 25th Mar 2010 12:24

Yes I have a job,but believe me it is not blessing.If it would be possible i would offer you to swop jobs for a while and then we would see.I know for sure that Qatar is far from being a perfect job,but it could be worse i guess.That`s probably not everybodies opinion here,as I read all this bad stuff.
But i still would like to give it a try and there is still a chance I don`t have to worry about how bad it might be as I still have to get invited and pass the interview etc...
So for the moment it would be interesting to know when and if they respond to applications???

HiddenDragon 27th Mar 2010 20:46

I`ve applied in early January!
Still waiting for an answer...


Any info regarding Qatar Airways admissions, contracts and rosters for the time being?

Regards

msian1147 28th Mar 2010 10:06

is it possible to get an upgrade on the A346?

when are they phasing out the A346?

boeingboeingbong 28th Mar 2010 14:54

I applied in November and haven't heard anything yet - I can take a hint!

azlee_19 29th Mar 2010 01:35

tell me about it, been waiting since mid nov too..

BAP 29th Mar 2010 09:07

Hi guys.

I am joining qatar soon. And just to give you a heads up. They do tend to misplace applications, so if you haven't heard anything after a long time, contact them again.

They lost mine, and a few of my friends applications.

The best of luck!

HiddenDragon 29th Mar 2010 10:01

Hi BAP!
In what fleet were you admitted?
Do you have any info regarding Qatar Airways admissions, contracts and rosters for the time being?

Regards

BAP 29th Mar 2010 10:22

i go on the 777.

Not sure about the roster, I expect the worst from what I have read in here. Commuting is definitely not possible, which is a shame.

HiddenDragon 29th Mar 2010 10:32

Some told me that in the 777 fleet was possible to commute 15/15 days.
Even in other fleets? Thats a real shame! I was expecting that...

So they tell you that directly in the assessment interview?

BAP 29th Mar 2010 10:40

15/15. Well that sounds too good to be true! Not heard that from anybody.

I think Ive heard about a TRE with Qatar who got a commuting roster, but not sure . And if thats the case, it may only be given to trainers etc

Maybe someone currently working for Qatar Airways, can shed some light on this??

Yes they do make it clear that you have to relocate to Doha, and that commuting isnt possible. We can only hope this changes in the future, but I wouldn't expect it to!

HiddenDragon 29th Mar 2010 11:07

I went to Qatar in mid January and spent some time with a friend that told me that it was possible. I talk every week with him and he stands with it. I dont know, maybe they have changed rosters recently.
He is in A320`s fleet and in that I know it is impossible!
I am prone to A330/777
But for me the commuting was a :ok:

loc22550 29th Mar 2010 11:49

LADIES & GENTS:

THERE is NO commuting roster in Q.R if you are employed under a Qatar Airways contract!(the only possibility WAS to request up to 9 days off in a row through the bidding system(notice to crew from the 03 may2009)...this opportunity has just been "removed" (few months ago)WITHOUT ANY official note to crew(as usual), so plenty of space for any rumors now, the last one i "heard"..: 3 days off maximum in a row..BUT again NOTHING official!:confused:


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