During my time on various fleets over the years, looking back at all my rosters (I keep copies) an average of 10 months out of the 12 I have had 2 to 5 days OFF out of Doha base, leaving little time home with the family. As already mentioned, this might be OK for single guys but very bad for a family man. Having said that, what use is being single and having an official day OFF in a place like Lagos or worse.:ugh:

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Krunch

Command Upgrade
 

Hey guys......i'm faced with a big dilemma for quite a few days now..

I've been offered a Snr F/O job with promise of Command in 3 months with a LCC. I know 5 f/o's personally in that company and all upgraded in 3-4 months.

I've just started out with QR. The word out is that it takes nearly 5-7 yrs for upgrade and whats really scary i hear is the Command Upgrade Interview. Its quite hard and many fail it. If you fail....u wait another year. Is all this true?

Should one leave an airline like QR for a LCC only for Command????

The pay over there of a Captain is lower than what we make as f/o's in QR.

It all depends on your age ... I would say

managed_mode

well first off, Plutos has a valid point.
Rest assured that there have been many F/O's leave QA with very little time spent working here, some have even left during the training phase. that said, it is my personal opinion that PIC time means EVERYTHING to your future, if you go with a company like CX it does not really matter. but if your going to ex-pat around the globe then it's vital you have PIC time if you are looking for money and position.
At QA even if you are selected (some bad apples are not) and you fail, the time might be more than 1 year before being selected again, and every-time the management changes (that happens quite often) then the rules also change and usually not in your favor.

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Krunch

Hello Everyone

I was wondering if we have anybody on this forum that was hired as an FO and actually upgraded at big Q. If you're out there, please share your thoughts and experiences. I am faced with the same dilemma as Managed_Mode, but being over 40 puts things in a different perspective. What should one do?

Thanks

Command Upgrade
 

Thanks Plutos and Capt Krunch.........I am 33 yrs old. I am looking to stay in an airline like QR. I'm not really interested in expating around the globe as a PIC. Based on my response it would seem like staying in QR would make sense if you are going to upgrade eventually. Even if I we're to apply as a DEC, I would have to work atleast a min. of 3 years to accumulate the required experience.

But from what I've heard about the Command Interview......the 5 year wait seems to be the least of your worries. I'm looking to get inputs about the Command Interview and how good or bad is it. Like flyby71.....I would very much like to know your experiences as it would help me make an informed decision.

The last thing you would want after waiting 5-6 years for Command is repeated failing the Command Interview year after year.

QR interview
 

...since it seams a lot of pilots are heading there ... are there significant changes on the interview process, technical questions, sim scenarios etc...

Fubaliera, Capt Oryx, Capt krunch or anybody else do you know if they will accept your reapplication in less than 1 year from you initial interview? or its pretty solid about the 1 year before you reapply?:)

Thinking of applying to Qatar with about 8000 total, 4500 glass jet, and 2000 command (737NG). If successful, what fleet would I likely go to? And would I be competetive as a DEC? Thanks in advance for advice.

Royalblue

it's pretty solid mate. they do keep track. having said that, you might be able to slip under a crack and get thru, but then again you also stand a chance to make things worse for yourself.

flamingmoe

well Mr Szyslak.
you might be able to land on the B777, but the lack of Widebody time may stand as an issue for DEC,. having said that, it's happened before so there is no real meter to gauge your luck. they are getting quite tired of all the hard landing though:ugh:
I still dont understand how thats done on a B777:confused:

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Krunch

After Selection Assessment what happens next
 

Hi All and good luck to everyone who is, has or will be going through the Qatar Selection.

Any ideas what happens next if you get through...

i.e. medical, references, qatar CAA etc...


Thanks

Fokker Plod

Hi all!
Someone knows wich will be the accomodation for FOs when Ain Khalid will be full? Any estimate about when the max capacity of Ain Khalid will be reached?

Tiennetti
 

Ain Khalid is already full/close to full. Some single First Officers are being relocated to Holiday Villa:

Holiday Villa Hotel & Residence City Centre, Doha

Since a few weeks ago its at max capacity.

So, where are new entries going?

But some guys literally last week went to Ain Khalid Gate...

I think they are trying to put families there and the singles into 'holiday' villas.

I'm sure someone else knows more.....

It would seem that Ain Khalid Gate is full, or nearly full, at what point are new joiners told where they will be living? Is it upon arrival or before you leave your home country?

Paper Lad
 

New Joiners won't find out where they will be staying until they have arrived in Doha. Sometimes pilots are put in temporary accommodation first, other times they will be sent straight to their permanent residence.

Qatar Interview
 

Hello guys,

Does anybody know what is the hiring future for Qatar Airways for FOs and how long usually it takes for an applicant for First Officer position of getting call.

Thank you in advance.



(A330 type more that 1000+ on type, 8000+total, 3000 jet command)

with your experience, it shouldn't wait for too long. why don't you try Etihad, they are hiring also.:cool:

interview
 

Hi
Could somebody tell me how qatar interview goes?
thanks

Hi

Does anybody know what sort of routes the A330 does and what sort of roster you get on this type of fleet ???


Also, if your A320 rated do they do the short course or the full TR ?? Is the training done in house in Doha or done in Europe ???

many thanks

A330 has the most interesting destinations as it goes in all directions 7 hours+. One sector and overnight. Lots of time away though.
If you are A320 rated you will probably end up on it here too, but not guaranteed. Supply and demand at the moment will decide where you go.
If you get it and you're current expect a short and intense course. If you're rated but haven't flown it for over 7 years, you will do a full TR, either here in Doha or in Toulouse. Pros and cons, the food in Toulouse vs getting QR SOPs correct from the beginning in Doha.

Bigbad i understand reading your post that you are 320 rated, but QR is gone put you straight on 330?!!:eek::ugh:

Hi,
anyone offered a position on the 777? starting in a month or two?

320 pilots;

what are your routes, do you get night stops, how much flying are you getting right now ?

Jenson

The 320 is the worst fleet to be. Lots of duty hours and little flying hours. You land in the morning and you are flying again in the night. But then again rosters in QR are a very...dynamic thing! You never know what tomorrow brings. For example the latest that the management came up with is the max 3 block days off per month. So even if you fly 777 you cannot get away from Doha more than 3 days a month. So you can enjoy lots of STBs and TBNs.
Good luck with any decision that you might take.

Heard high fail rate right now ...too many applications available over the desk!!!
wait a bit to join if you can:ok:

AIRBUS 3XX

On the contrary, it was once easy to get into this place as we would hire anyone with a pulse, we got many that should not even be allowed to drive a motor vehicle let alone fly an aircraft.
These days the bar has been raised and I would hope it stays that way. We don't need more people that cant make the grade, we have enough already. At least these days I don't have to explain the basics of how to make proper radio calls. I now fly most of my flights with capable f/o's unlike years gone by.

Job well done RN

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Krunch

Krunch
You are right 100% ! Full agree with you
My advice was wait a bit to join...and get some more experience,we don't need anymore uncapable people,
Anyway at least 80 % F/os I've been flying with now are smart professionals.
Good job raising the bar....well done:ok:

... well since it is true! The bar has been raised ... so anyone has feedbacks on their interview and willing to share! Thanks

:ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Does anyone care to share with us what the interview was like and if it targeted for GF pilots...

Sorry I'm a little lost, you're telling the guy with "(A330 type more that 1000+ on type, 8000+total, 3000 jet command)" to wait a little bit to join because he needs to get more experience?:eek:

QR interview
 

Let's try to focus this thread on QR interview and the process on how to get a Pilot Job with QR! Please/Thanks

yes 320 rated but offered the 330, a guess that ensures that i am bonded ?!?! dont know of any other reason for this !!

unlikely you will be. saw others being hired on a330 who were flying 320 before, without bonding.

Qatar interview
 

....Since the Bar have been raised....and its true 100%....and also now in QA everybody is capable to make radio calls properly..:)

Is there any fellow pilot or HR to tell us the hiring projects for this year and the interview itself?

Simple and straight question without " raising the bar" or "you need experience" and etc.

330 Flying at QR
 

Hi Everyone,

A couple of questions for those working at QR already if I may.

I have also been offered the 330, pleased with that. But have there been any instances of people arriving in Doha with an offer of the 330 only to be told on arrival that they are actually flying the 320?

Could someone who is flying the 330 possibly share and post a typical roster?

It would be good to know what sort of flying the 330 gets, what routes it gets, how many days off in the month, how many of those days off are rostered down-route (if any), and most importantly how much time off back at base to be with the wife and kids!? :hmm:

Thanks

6080

Hi all,

I have just been offered an FO position on the A320 which I know isn't everyones cup of tea but still exciting for me!!! To all those who want info on the recruitment process, nothing has changed to what you can found out on this thread already. Tech test (50 general ATPL multi-choice Qs), Interview (Nothing tech just lots of behavioural qs, 30-40mins), Sim Asess (A320/737 radar vectors, raw data ILS x 2). You had to passs each stage otherwise you didn't commence on to the next.

For those that might be interested, I found a really good website that helped me prep for all stages of the assessment. Without it, I'd have been seriously struggling so it comes highly recommended... The proof is in the offer!!!!!!!!

Airline Pilot Interview Preparation Course,Questions,Technical,Simulator

Good luck chaps.