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Fubaliera 4th Jan 2010 11:25

Who says your gonna get the 777 or 330

waitingandwaiting 4th Jan 2010 11:44

With all this expansion that is happening, what is the expected time to command? Or will they fill the slots with a lot of decs?

Fubaliera 4th Jan 2010 12:00

Bingo, there will always be a reason to hire DEC

FlyingCroc 4th Jan 2010 12:15

ME Airlines
 
Guys, just read all the messages about QR, EY, EK then you will see what it is like. I work here for many years, and what you read here is mostly true. Of course some guys are frustrated because of fleet or upgrades. But face it, it is just a job, take it or leave it. Make some money and get out. Nobody cares about you here, and nobody would be here if it was not for the good pay (although it could be better) and the oppurtunity to fly a big jet.
1) Rosters, as pointed out above, they change monthly, can be good on one fleet, bad on another. You have 10days off, the rest is pure luck.
2) No commuting possible in all airlines.
3) Upgrades: expect min. 5-7 years, there will always be DEC available worldwide to fly the shiney jets. DO not believe that airplanes will be parked on ground, never ever happened so far and I don't think it ever will. There are enough pilots worldwide to fill the slots. And they will not care if you resign if you don't get your upgrade. Join, work, make money and wait for your time, unless you find a better job in the meantime.
The other thing which I think is even more important: can you live in an arabic, islamic country, can your family stand it? Read up on Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi, not just on pprune but also from other perspectives. Life is completly different from Europe or the Americas. You will spend a considerable amount of your life here, especially your family while you enjoy a break in New York, Shanghai or Bangkok.

flyby71 4th Jan 2010 14:50

Crew transport
 
Hello Everyone

Does anybody know if Qatar Airways has a transport for crew members from the compound to the tower/airport if one does not have a car and how much does it cost?
Also, when you arrive into your accomodations, is the land line phone already working? Can you make international calls?
Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Fubaliera 4th Jan 2010 19:02

You have transport for one week only then your on your own
Telephone take about 60days

flyby71 4th Jan 2010 20:10

Thank you all for a quick response. It really helps. So I gather that the landline is up and running when I show up, is that correct? I just wanted to make sure that my wife can somehow call me before I get a mobile phone or internet. Should I just buy a mobile phone at the airport?
Thanks again

Capt Krunch 5th Jan 2010 04:20

flyby71

dont worry man, as mentioned, your wife can call you but you wont be able to make international calls. dont buy a phone in the airport, just wait until you arrive as there are a million places to get decent phone here at a better price than that of the airport. that part is easy.


poisoned by compromise
krunch

bumba 5th Jan 2010 07:47

International Driver licence
 
...and can you drive with an international drivers licence?

RJ900NG 5th Jan 2010 17:31

Hello
 
Can any one please tell how long it takes QR to respond to your application....

Thanks

DooblerChina 5th Jan 2010 18:45

Hello guys,

Can I have an idea how many days in the month people stay in their own beds on all fleets?

Thanks,

DC

junglie-driver 5th Jan 2010 20:55

Good evening all, managed to get a lot of good info from Prune about the company and the assessment/ Sim process. Somehow managed to get an interview date this month. Wondering if anyone out there has any new info or been through the process recently and could provide (either publicly or privately) any top tips to succeed.... Anything would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again and good luck with the job hunting. JD

EGCC4284 5th Jan 2010 21:26

Me and eight others from that Blue UK charter airline did day 1 today in Gatwick. Very nice people and all eight of us passed the exam and interviews. All got the sim tomorrow here in Gatwick.

Very very nice people and made the day very pleasent.

CDRW 5th Jan 2010 21:48

EGCC - they have to be very nice people at the interview - if they showed their true colours - you would all run a mile!

loc22550 6th Jan 2010 06:26

QR. offers the cheapest package for pilots compared to our biggest rivals here and majors Actors in the gulf(EK,AA,EY.. )and Doha probably not the most pleasant,civilised... place to live in the gulf....(let's not even talk about the mentality here inside QR!).
So...There is not one million way to attrack people here : just Keep smiling..!:}

Capt Krunch 6th Jan 2010 10:08

EGCC4284

do you honestly think they would send the most undesirables to conduct interviews and attract pilots ?

meeting the nice friendly frontmen for the airline is not a clear depiction of the work environment you will be faced with once signing your life away.


Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

Captain Oryx 6th Jan 2010 10:34

Actually, I found them very representative.:ok:

Random75 6th Jan 2010 14:50

I heard that Ain Khalid Gate is now full and new joiners will be put into a new compound. Could anyone expand on this with a name of the new compound and any other details? Thanks

Phantom Driver 6th Jan 2010 19:05

EGCC4284


Very very nice people and made the day very pleasent.
You will find that this is generally the case, despite what you may read on this "forum". Conduct yourself in a professional manner (which we all do, don't we?!) and there really should be no problem.

Anyone coming to the Middle East does so with eyes wide open, and with their own reasons for making the move; always been the case and nothing has changed. Lot of good advice has been posted here over the years; sort out the wheat from the chaff (may need some work, as lots of the latter). Your choice. Good luck.

(p.s-No, not a manager, instructor, etc etc. This in anticipation of the barbs from the usual sources).

Royalblue 6th Jan 2010 19:42

Any one knows if you can reapply in less than 1 year from your interview???Apparently they were looking for astronauts to answer the written test when I was there :)...Seriously if you don't know what kind of clouds altocumulus lenticularis are you are not a good pilot....!!!!)(@*$*(&$@(*&@$**&

Royalblue 6th Jan 2010 19:50

I was called for an interview 2 years ago and rejected it after I heard about their process.... Too bad Qatar changed the process also in the last 6 months.Now you can't even do personal interview if u fail the written :)...

flyby71 7th Jan 2010 12:16

Good Afternoon Everyone

Does anybody know what is the best place to rent a car for the first few months and how much would it cost?

cheers mates

TAP 7th Jan 2010 20:09

EGCC - Any chance for some feedback on your tech paper?! Cheers!

burble 8th Jan 2010 08:38

Likewise Flyby71, any specifics, as I'm sure you appreciate, would be a big help.

Daft Wader 8th Jan 2010 13:26

QR & BS .... surely not !!

May the farce be with you

Brgds

Yogi Bear

:ok:

Mr Gammon Flaps 8th Jan 2010 18:37

Commuting from DXB
 
Hello Chaps:

Can anyone tell me if there are any longhaul Captains commuting from DXB or AUH, so that the housing allowance can be put towards a mortgage there? (I know about the property situation in DXB:})

I don't necessarily mean using staff ID90 all the time, but perhaps firm tickets on Flydubai etc.

I saw this topic before but it was replied to by the 320 guys.

Thoughts or comments appreciated.

Cheers

GF

P.S Any chance of a 777 driver giving a typical roster (I know, they will change as the fleet expands, just looking for the current picture). Thanks

flyby71 9th Jan 2010 00:28

burble

If you have any specific questions, I would be more that happy to answer them. I did benefit from the forum myself and I intend to provide the same for all of you attending/preparing for a big day , so please do not be shy, fire away with anything you would like to ask and I will post it here for all of you guys/girls to know what to expect. No need to send me PM, I will post it here so everybody can see.
The interview process was actually very nice(this is my own opinion). I do understand that guys that did not succeed may be discontent or pissed off. This is our true nature after all, when we fail. I speak from what I saw during stay in Doha. They fly you business class and meet you when you enter the terminal to process all your paperwork so you do not have to stand in immigration/customs line. Very nice I thought, especially when they have ungodly amount of applications sitting on their desks. They do not have to do it, yet they still do. Once you're done with the paperwork, the representative will take you straight to the Marriott's desk and you're on your way to the hotel.
Next day, company presentation on their future plans, written exam, personal interview and simulator. Unfortunately, if you fail written or personal interview you're done. Let me concentrate on the written first. Remember, you fail, that's it. How to prepare for it? I actually went over about 7 JAA ATPL books and made an outline of what I thought was important. Next step was to go over the ACE book and by then you ARE able to answer the questions on the quiz. I do not remember exact q's but concentrate on air law, performance(big one), mass and balance, general navigation(u do not have to know what frequencies VOR operate on), flight planning, meteorology and that should be it. No formulas to remember. If you're willing to do it or you perhaps know it, you're more than fine. Personal interview is very easy, at least that's what I think. Scenarios very from tell me about the time when you:
had to work for a demanding manager
had a confict in the cockpit
what can you bring to the company
etc.
Sim portion, cake walk. Takeoff, raw data, level off at some altitude, radar vectors for an ILS approach, land and then do it the second time. No V1 cuts, no emergencies. That's all folks. Please study before you come, relax(I know it's hard when you're sitting in front of 3 people asking questions) and enjoy your time.
The hotel is right on the water, take a taxi to the Souqs, you'll like it. I hope it helps.
Cheers Mates

Another thing off the subject, I do not want to hear any comments about the company from guys/girls currently flying over there. This was a post of what the interview looks like, not your likes nor dislikes. I myself have been laid off from 5 flying jobs in the past 18 months so keep your opinions about fleet transfers and upgrades to yourself- I don't want to hear it, read about it in the previous 80 plus pages.(no I am not a DEC)

Wango Z Tango 9th Jan 2010 07:03

Mr Gammon Flaps

it's been mentioned time and time again, commuting is not a good option here. Days off are not written in stone and can change at anytime to suit operational needs. it's always been that way, nothing new.

a look at B777 skipper December sched.

return from JFK (02).
OFF (03-04).
JED (05).
Standby (06-08).
Bombay All night flt (09)
OFF (10-11).
Standby (12-13-14).
OFF mandatory prior to ULR (15-16)
KIAH (17 - 21)
OFF mandatory post ULR (22-23-24).
Standby (25)
MNL early morning 00:55 (26-29)
OFF (30)
Standby (31)

enjoy the commute

wZt

nopoal 9th Jan 2010 07:43

Roster
 
Hi all!!

Any clues about how is the roster for an FO on the A330 and the A320??

Thanks

Nice landings :cool:

Mr Gammon Flaps 9th Jan 2010 08:13

Wango Z Tango:

Thanks for your comments. It definitely looks like commuting is a no go.

What's with the sporadic standbys in between what would be a reasonable amount of days off?

Is that a representative roster, or slightly busier due to being Xmas with a lot of guys on leave?

GF

Captain Oryx 9th Jan 2010 09:31

It is a fairy representative roster. No commuting.

In case you missed it,

NO COMMUTING!!:=:=:=

Good Luck.

Fubaliera 9th Jan 2010 18:02

flyby71, who the do you think you are, we will complain all we want. fcuk you. By the way, if you come here with that kiss azz agenda of gratefulness your in for a shock.

Mr Gammon Flaps 9th Jan 2010 19:09

Big Neon:

Thanks for your input.

I have heard the FTL's are based on CAP 371, so I understand what the minimum day off requirements are; my question in an inarticulate way was asking if they plan to give 8 days off as a target, which I believe you have answered.

Cheers

GF

Che Xindamail 10th Jan 2010 08:16

Fubaliera is another example that drinking and posting is not a good idea.

Capt Krunch 10th Jan 2010 09:00

Mr Gammon Flaps

it seems that days OFF is a big concern for you. Justifiably so, personal time is important to everyone here. BUT, please keep in mind that those 8 days OFF per month that we speak of does NOT always mean days OFF in Doha. many of the more senior pilots can confirm that in many cases you might receive days OFF out-sation thus taking away from your time OFF in Doha.. (i.e. 2 days OFF while on layover in JNB = 6 days remaining OFF in Doha), thats just the way it is.

does not happen on the B777,, YET !! but, it's coming.


Poisoned by Compromise
Krunch

loc22550 10th Jan 2010 10:50

I do confirm..(Since they don't have to pay anymore special allowance for days off outside Doha):
Recently i had 5 days off for the month...outside Doha!
Might be good ..if you are single...,bad if your family is in Doha.!

flyby71 10th Jan 2010 13:48

FUBA

You are such a tool. That's all I have to tell you.

Captain Oryx 10th Jan 2010 14:16

[QUOTE]FUBA

You are such a tool. That's all I have to tell you/QUOTE]

Now, Now, be gentle with Fuba. After being "embraced" by China Airlines' cabin crew he has discovered that the flight ops dept. does not share the same affection for his "talents".

Gotta be tough on the old man!:ok:

flyby71 10th Jan 2010 14:45

"Now, Now, be gentle with Fuba. After being "embraced" by China Airlines' cabin crew he has discovered that the flight ops dept. does not share the same affection for his "talents"."


hahahaha, that's funny. He must simply hate life and everything that involves it. Tell him that Wizz Air is currently looking for such "talented" individuals. He's got the A320 time after all.

Fubaliera 10th Jan 2010 18:00

Capt Orex, Im glad you read all my post ,keep up the good work.


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