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samca 10th May 2018 20:32


Originally Posted by Lepo (Post 10141619)
That's right. Candidates rated on the 777/787 or A330 are waiting just a couple of months for a DOJ whereas B737/A320 rated candidates are waiting at least a year.

my God, at least 1 year for me. That’s a lot. In one year lot of things can happened

Lepo 11th May 2018 12:06


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10143426)


my God, at least 1 year for me. That’s a lot. In one year lot of things can happened

Bear in mind that this is the current situation. It doesn't mean it will stay like this forever.
Due to the blockade in June last year QR expansion plans were severely affected, which consequently affected the talent pool wait period.
Now that the company have adjusted their business plan to the current reality I believe the influx of pilots should start heating up again, so I don't think the wait period will remain as long as 18months as it is now.

This is just my point of view. It's all a guess game.

APU_inop 11th May 2018 13:28


Originally Posted by flyhigh787 (Post 10144044)
Curious, why so many wanna go QR? I read and heard lot of negative things from past employees. On the other hand, its the best time to go Emirates now with their pilot shortage!

Better money
Actually getting your 42 days of annual leave with ability to bid for block off's before/after
Proper swapping/bidding system
Much better rosters
Much less fatigue
Shorter time to upgrade
No 35 year limit for upgrade
Better staff travel benefits

Etc

QR777X 15th May 2018 15:54

Hi,

I have applied for a 777 Captain position and I am now "swimming" in the QR Holding pool. I read that not rated people may wait between 12 and 18 months.

Any idea how long is it going to be for rated 777 DECs?

Thanks in advance

FlyingOW 15th May 2018 18:51

It is rumored that DEC recrtuitment is going to stop soon (though I personally think it unlikely) to prioritize internal commands to FOs. Also heard no more 737 guys into the T7.
But then again this is PPRUNE.

OW

QR777X 16th May 2018 04:18

@FlyingOW

Thank you very much for your info. Do you think they will still hire (rated) people who are in the holding pool?

I understand that FOs cannot be happy about DECs though (I wasn't happy when the same happened to me).

Let's wait and see.

PADRON737 26th May 2018 11:37

Rumor says
 
that qatar wont be hiring untill next year april earliest, anybody heard something different? Time to dust of the cv’s I guess 😁😁

mulayimsert 26th May 2018 15:00


Originally Posted by PADRON737 (Post 10157360)
that qatar wont be hiring untill next year april earliest, anybody heard something different? Time to dust of the cv’s I guess 😁😁

I didn't heard that before. Where did you heard this rumor. Actually I heard from one friend, he got an email for online test and he was waiting for months since his application. So I think QR is starting to hire again but anyway there are many guys in the talent pool so it is not realistic to expect joining QR in short term except you are type-rated.

casablanca 26th May 2018 15:35

I believe that they are definitely hiring, albeit at slower rate than before. I have heard 777 fo's are in high demand.

FlyingOW 28th May 2018 13:47

We are hiring on triple 7, just FOs for the last couple of months and at a much slower pace than in the past. 787 recruitment even slower. Pretty stagnant on Boeing for the time being. We do however have some outstanding 777F deliveries so there is some light at the end of the tunnel :-)

OW

QR777X 28th May 2018 14:58


Originally Posted by FlyingOW (Post 10159082)
We are hiring on triple 7, just FOs for the last couple of months and at a much slower pace than in the past. 787 recruitment even slower. No internal command courses, no fleet transfers. Pretty stagnant on Boeing for the time being. We do however have some outstanding 777F deliveries so there is some light at the end of the tunnel :-)

OW


According to planespotters.net , the last 777-300ER has been delivered a few days ago.

There are 3 more 300ERs and 1 777F in the production line.

I hope they will start hiring DECs soon. :ok:

samca 28th May 2018 15:23

Guys,

I don’t understand. I have the Assestment next June 4 and 5. If I pass I would have to wait another year at least. FO Boeing pilots seems to be full so I don’t understand why they continue calling people for the assessments.

MD7 28th May 2018 15:32

Hey Guys,

So I have an offer but somewhere it says about reference from current and previous employer (4 years ago). Current employer is not an issue but previous employer never gave us anything when few of us left so I am not sure if they will withdraw the offer based on this. Has anyone else had similar situation? Is it mandatory to have a reference from a previous employer 4 years ago?

FlyingOW 28th May 2018 15:38

We have 2 destinations for the triple on hold (SFO & LAS) due to the blockade. 4 more T7 freighters coming. Once it ends it will be all systems go again.

It is sensible to have a pool of suitable candidates for when we ramp up recruitment again and to cover internal promotions and natural attrition.

OW

Alfredol 28th May 2018 17:39

Congrats, enjoy 👍, how many time did you stay in the pool ? When you did your assess?
 
l ?
So I have an offer but somewhere it says about reference from current and previous employer (4 years ago). Current employer is not an issue but previous employer never gave us anything when few of us left so I am not sure if they will withdraw the offer based on this. Has anyone else had similar situation? Is it mandatory to have a reference from a previous employer 4 years ago?[/QUOTE]

Pan.am.85 28th May 2018 18:34

Any feedback on DEC for Airbus? In particular the A330?

Papa_Golf 28th May 2018 18:56


Originally Posted by samca (Post 10159125)
Guys,

I don’t understand. I have the Assestment next June 4 and 5. If I pass I would have to wait another year at least. FO Boeing pilots seems to be full so I don’t understand why they continue calling people for the assessments.

Actually we might use a few more FOs on the Boeing fleet.

Recruitment was stagnant in the last 12 months but it looks like something is moving again.

samca 28th May 2018 20:51


Originally Posted by Papa_Golf (Post 10159240)


Actually we might use a few more FOs on the Boeing fleet.

Recruitment was stagnant in the last 12 months but it looks like something is moving again.

I hope so because if they are not moving it has no sense to continue recruiting Boeing pilots

MD7 29th May 2018 04:17


Originally Posted by Alfredol (Post 10159194)
l ?
So I have an offer but somewhere it says about reference from current and previous employer (4 years ago). Current employer is not an issue but previous employer never gave us anything when few of us left so I am not sure if they will withdraw the offer based on this. Has anyone else had similar situation? Is it mandatory to have a reference from a previous employer 4 years ago?


[/QUOTE]

Cheers been swimming since December applied last year around August.

APU_inop 29th May 2018 10:43

A lot of old colleagues are getting joining dates now during 2018, mainly on the 777. Hang in there!

QR777X 30th May 2018 01:22

When did they start receiving offers? Recently? Are they (rated) FOs or Captains?
Thanks

mulayimsert 30th May 2018 21:02

I am in the pool for almost 1 year and still no DOJ. It doesn't make any sense. If you have so much pilots in the pool why you are still doing recruitment. Many guys in the pool for a year and they won't wait forever and most probably they won't apply QR again in the future. QR just wasting the pilot source. If you decided to go middle east QR is not the only choice.

QR777X 31st May 2018 00:13

Are you rated on any QR aircraft?

Alfredol 31st May 2018 05:45

You applied for F/O or CAPT ? Regards
 
Cheers been swimming since December applied last year around August.[/QUOTE]

mulayimsert 31st May 2018 08:10

No, I am a 737NG first officer. If you are rated then it will be faster of course but if you not then don't waste your time with QR.

QR777X 31st May 2018 11:07


Originally Posted by mulayimsert (Post 10161339)
No, I am a 737NG first officer. If you are rated then it will be faster of course but if you not then don't waste your time with QR.

I understand your frustration but I think the blockade has really slowed down QR expansion plan. I am 777 rated but I doubt I will receive an email soon. It seems they don't need many DECs for the time being. I hope to be wrong! ;)

I am sure you will receive a DOJ soon though.

Good Luck!

mulayimsert 31st May 2018 21:00


Originally Posted by QR777X (Post 10161472)
I understand your frustration but I think the blockade has really slowed down QR expansion plan. I am 777 rated but I doubt I will receive an email soon. It seems they don't need many DECs for the time being. I hope to be wrong! ;)

I am sure you will receive a DOJ soon though.

Good Luck!

Thanks a lot but I am not waiting only QR anymore. If I get an offer from another company then I will go there. So I suggest to non type applicants don't waste your time with only QR because it's really unpredictable.

FlyingOW 31st May 2018 22:48

We have had applicants typed on 767/787/777/747 from the likes of Turkish, EK, EY, Avianca, LAN, Cathay, Korean, CargoLux Italy, etc. It’s really very competitive for an FO position, and we need about 100 for the T7 in the coming year.

Hang in there, be patient. Good things come to those that wait.

OW

Black Pudding 1st Jun 2018 06:39


Originally Posted by mulayimsert (Post 10161838)
Thanks a lot but I am not waiting only QR anymore. If I get an offer from another company then I will go there. So I suggest to non type applicants don't waste your time with only QR because it's really unpredictable.


I was once given this advice many years ago when I was trying to get my first flying job. "until you arrive on day one, you have no job and until you have line checked, you're on probation"

keep looking and applying as you never know, you may get offered a job you'll consider sooner.

MD7 1st Jun 2018 07:16


Originally Posted by Alfredol (Post 10161254)


Cheers been swimming since December applied last year around August.


[/QUOTE]
F/O and Boeing rated on B767

QR777X 1st Jun 2018 08:58


Originally Posted by FlyingOW (Post 10161904)
We have had applicants typed on 767/787/777/747 from the likes of Turkish, EK, EY, Avianca, LAN, Cathay, Korean, CargoLux Italy, etc. It’s really very competitive for an FO position, and we need about 100 for the T7 in the coming year.

Hang in there, be patient. Good things come to those that wait.

OW

Hi OW,

Do you know how many 777 DECs will be needed this year (if any)?

thanks



Avenger 2nd Jun 2018 10:56

Some movement on 777 FO recruitment from pool that is 12 months plus, but no DEC on the horizon.. no immediate requirements.

FlyingOW 2nd Jun 2018 12:18


Originally Posted by QR777X (Post 10162234)


Hi OW,

Do you know how many 777 DECs will be needed this year (if any)?

thanks



For the time being they are telling our FOs no more DECs (we are 3800 pilots, almost half FOs seems pretty reasonable to me).

Next year? who knows... post Blockade? Again, it’s a guessing game.

OW

Luibar 2nd Jun 2018 14:41

A collegue is going for the assessment in doha in a few days. DEC A320. If they are not taking DEC what is the point in invite them for the assessment?

bananaman2 2nd Jun 2018 15:14


Originally Posted by Luibar (Post 10163289)
A collegue is going for the assessment in doha in a few days. DEC A320. If they are not taking DEC what is the point in invite them for the assessment?

... the previous posts were referring to DEC Boeing (777)... your friend is going for DEC Airbus (A320)....

Alfredol 11th Jun 2018 18:56

Any news about DEC on Boeing fleet ????

PADRON737 12th Jun 2018 07:31


Originally Posted by Alfredol (Post 10170781)
Any news about DEC on Boeing fleet ????

I have been in the pool as non tr DEC Boeing for over a year 2 friends of mine even longer now. Many guys are working on our plan B’s. If you are rated then you might get the call anytime. My 2 cents if you are non rated and are in the pool for 6 monts or so don't bother waiting and take other opportunities because you can’t plan on anything with Qatar Airways.

good luck

samca 12th Jun 2018 21:20


Originally Posted by PADRON737 (Post 10171153)


I have been in the pool as non tr DEC Boeing for over a year 2 friends of mine even longer now. Many guys are working on our plan B’s. If you are rated then you might get the call anytime. My 2 cents if you are non rated and are in the pool for 6 monts or so don't bother waiting and take other opportunities because you can’t plan on anything with Qatar Airways.

good luck

is it this situation the same for NTR Boeing FOs? What’s the estimated time for joining as NTR FO?

cheers

Lepo 13th Jun 2018 14:59

I believe non type rated DECs won't get anything in the foreseeable future. The airline is prioritizing promoting its own FOs rather than hiring DECs. QR have already sent emails to candidates in this situation saying they have nothing in the forecast for them, so maybe thinking a plan B is a good idea.

For FOs, things are starting to move again. I believe the wait period in the talent pool is going to slowly start reducing from the current 15-18 months timeframe to the 6-12 months timeframe, like it used to be before the blockade.

Avenger 13th Jun 2018 15:08

There are sufficient type rated and experienced Boeing DEC available to cover requirements until mid 2019, these supplemented by internal upgrades should cover the needs on the Boeing Fleets. No idea on Bus..IF you are swimming for the NTR DEC I would get a life jacket


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