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TopGun 24 15th Sep 2014 09:12

V4city
 
No it's not,
Regards

Iver 16th Sep 2014 17:03

...............

Ethiopia 17th Sep 2014 08:40

Great news!

Qatar Airways receives first A380

Deep and fast 17th Sep 2014 10:35

His excellency! WTF

Deep and F :hmm:

v4city 18th Sep 2014 16:47

Good Day Guys

Nobody seems to be talking about the June 2014 SO application. Is something really happening out there or everyone is waiting.

Cheers guys

v4city 19th Sep 2014 11:29

Are these guys who have been waiting for 2 years been paid?

Obbie 19th Sep 2014 13:15

Wow, you really don't have a clue do you.

Nice to see you despirate fools are really
doing your home work :ugh:

LQ410 19th Sep 2014 16:34

Qatar Airways
 
Can any one say what the roster for B777 F/O is like at Qatar Airways and also company accommodation availability.

v4city 21st Sep 2014 14:13

That's ridiculous. Did you guys happen to have any info why are they recruiting more guys when they have already guys waiting.

v4city 22nd Sep 2014 05:41

PilotofDoha
 
Thanks for sharing this info. Do you have info from this inside source regarding how many SO they will be recruiting this year?

brutale 24th Sep 2014 00:15

I have received an offer letter from the company, can somebody with experience please tell me for how long does it usually take to get joining date?

winterinhell 24th Sep 2014 17:43

Mind to share more about ur offer letter..I put my timeline from invitation for interview up till DOJ n latest my work visa in a post few pages back..u can get a rough idea from that..

brutale 24th Sep 2014 21:26

Sure, I got FO 320

Applied April 2014
Interview May 2014
Offer letter August 2014
Ive got the DOJ in meantime (Sept 2014) to join in November 2014

alidkamel738 25th Sep 2014 20:47

What position you were applying for if u don't mind sharing
Cheers :)

pilot4eva 26th Sep 2014 05:11

SO
 
Guys,
Does anyone know if the applications for Second officer(June 2014) will ever be processed?Are they actively recruiting SO's?Has anyone heard from them?

FL123 26th Sep 2014 05:28

@pilot4eva
 
As of now, they wont be processing up the applicants as they have got people in the pool waiting to join.

ManFlex46 26th Sep 2014 07:30

Jepp FD
 
Hello guys,


Those of you already flying with Qatar...does QR allow using personal iPad etc for Jepp FD in flight, do they provide the jepp key or pilots need to purchase their own?


Thanks

330airbus 26th Sep 2014 08:12

Anyone got any info about the Pilot Meeting?
Was away and could not attend.

Any good news at all?:E

Hobbsmeter 26th Sep 2014 22:25

Someone passed this to me. For those who didn't go. .
1. Compensation Package (the most important to many of us);
Unfortunately, the compensation package that was to be announced today was delayed due to "technical issues." However, the package is indeed alive and details will be announced "by next week." The important point is that this package is effective September 1st, so it is already in place.
- There will be an increase in Basic Salary.
- Increase in Hourly Flight Pay.
- Increase in Tuition Allowance.
- The introduction of a "Productivity Bonus" which means if you fly more than 630 hours a year (narrow body fleet) or 735 hours a year (wide body fleet) , your hourly pay over and above those hours will be paid at a higher rate.
- The compensation increment scale, which currently stagnates at 10 years of service will now be revised to go up to 15 years of service initially and probably even higher later on.
- The salary increase will be between 12% to 18% based on rank and time with the company.
- Unfortunately, there will be NO revision to the housing allowance at this time. The company is looking into a "more permanent" solution to this problem which includes the acquisition of more company housing units.
- There will be a revision to the "End of Contract" compensation package to be announced in the near future.
- There will be an increase in the "Loss of License" insurance payout amount.
- There will be consideration given to allotment of standby tickets to retired pilots.

2. Change in Company Culture;
According to the new COO, there will be a basic change in company culture, which includes due process and exposure to a fair decision process before termination is deemed necessary. They are looking to make Qatar Airways a "company that pilots want to work for."

3. Fleet Change & Upgrades;
An A320, A330 or A340 F.O., will be eligible for an A350 or A380 F.O. position, or for A320 guys, an A330 F.O position.
- An A320 or A330 F.O., will only upgrade as Captain to the A320 fleet.
- A Boeing F.O., will only transfer as F.O. or Captain to other Boeing types.
- Unfortunately, Bonds were NOT discussed.
- As you know, the first A350 is expected by year end. It will initially be staffed by A330 guys since the type ratings between the two will be considered as "common." Later on, they will start incorporating the A320 pilots into the A350 fleet.
- The first 5 A350's are earmarked for "European Destinations" and the next five will be assigned "Asian Destinations."

4. Command Development Course Proposal;
The company is looking to implement a new program titled the "Command Development Course." The program is designed to develop eligible First Officers to prepare for their command upgrade process. This is basically how it is envisioned to work.
- When a first officer is within one year of upgrade eligibility, they will be enrolled into the program.
- The first step will be a P.S.A (equivalent to a PAT)
- This will be followed by ground courses aimed at command training.
- All LPC/OPC's from this point on will include an assessment on Command Potential.
- After the program is complete, the candidate will be allowed to take another P.S.A., if the first one (taken at the beginning of the program), was unsuccessful.
- On completion of the training, the candidate will undergo the usual command upgrade process which includes an LPC/OPC, interview board etc.
- Upon completion of all the above, the candidate will undergo their Command Upgrade.

This is all I have for now guys. There were some issues raised during the Q&A session that were inconclusive. The management promised to look into them. These include but are not limited to scheduling (roster), vacations, quality of crew hotels etc.

mmorel 27th Sep 2014 00:29

bond
 
when you upgrade from A330 captain to A350 captain ,Do you need to go under bond again?

winterinhell 27th Sep 2014 05:07

If I may share some info on housing here..from the latest reply I got regarding housing..QR is giving everyone company house starting from ur DOJ and it will be permanent, thruout ur career..all deck crew will be given the same type, ie 3 bedroom regardless of rank, which im not sure apartment or villa..if others have different info please do correct me..thanks..

Paper Lad 27th Sep 2014 08:09

I, for one, am quite optimistic about the new terms and conditions announced at the recent pilot forum. There seems to be a clear intention, from the new management team, to make QR a much better place to work. Let's hope that it's not a false dawn.

PL.

transport jock 27th Sep 2014 08:47

Maybe they are forced to improve life at QR because from second hand info I heard, they have lost 100's of pilots lately. Even heard of a case where a crew flew to the UK in a B777 and then emailed QR to come fetch their aircraft because they resigned on the spot...

(Disclaimer : heard from someone who did a interview at another company with 3 other Qatar pilots..)

mmorel 28th Sep 2014 17:56

no salary increase for SEP
 
I don't see any salary increase for SEP ,Maybe it is effective from October.

casablanca 29th Sep 2014 03:35

I had heard it would be effective Sept 1st, but as they haven't announced what or how much, I did not expect to see it yet. We will hopefully see some back pay later?
Some of the wording like productivity pay above 735 hours is good but if part of the 12-15% raise could mean that you never really see or realize the full percentage.
At least it sounds like a step in the right direction....

v4city 29th Sep 2014 08:20

Tony2F
 
When did you do the test and when was the result out?

Thanks in advance

Effoh 29th Sep 2014 09:12

Tony, judging by your reaction to failing the PSA, it shows that the PSA did it's job very well!

Effoh 29th Sep 2014 10:27

Tony I apologise, it was harsh. It must be difficult. But it did look like you were throwing your toys out of the pram. It looks like a great gig so give it another go in 6 months. What's the worst that can happen?

00028EC 29th Sep 2014 13:36

Tony2F I am really sorry for you. I am pretty much in your situation (2.5 years), but wasn't asked to do the PSA yet. Are you a SO or a NTFO? Thanks.

Iver 29th Sep 2014 14:18

Cheers Hobbsmeter for the updated info.


Two questions/points:


1. Regarding the first 5 routes going to Europe, I thought QR announced that the first A350 would be used on a JFK rotation? Any word on that possibly changing? I realise routes and fleet allocations change from time to time.


2. I have heard from a few mates that the current 787 positions are largely staffed by former A320 drivers. So, it sounds like you can jump to the Boeing fleets currently from the A320 fleet - but that might change once the A350 fleet starts to build.

SOPS 29th Sep 2014 14:52

I'm stunned that people still want to come to the Middle East. And put so much time and effort into it.

SOPS 29th Sep 2014 14:56

And I'm amused apt IVER asking about A350' routes. FFS get a grip, the thing has not even flown in revenue service, and you are asking about routes?

Iver 29th Sep 2014 15:20

Qatar Airways first A350 due in December, New York first destination - ch-aviation.com

Geebz 29th Sep 2014 16:07

I have a friend who was, until recently, a senior A330 Capt. He left QR for a job pays half what he was making in QR. Says a lot about the Qatari lifestyle, which obviously he had enough of by this point.

Regarding the PSA/ Hogan test. What a BS test. My airline uses that for new-hires after HR took the hiring process away from Flt Ops. Nearly every applicant I have helped get an interview didn't pass the Hogan test. These are high-time all-around good guys (15,000+ hrs/ 12,000 PIC). I don't put my name behind many pilots but the ones I do recommend are just the type you want to fly a 3 or 4 day trips with, yet the PSA test states they are "unqualified".

One question I remember an applicant telling me: "When you get on an elevator, where should you stand?" WTF?

Meanwhile, a buddy of mine who has passed every Hogan test ever given to him, studied how to pass it prior to taking it and admitted he worked the system to pass it... IOW, the test is complete BS.

Scott_T 30th Sep 2014 02:56

Hi all,

I was just on the QR career website, my application for 777 FO was rejected I think because I am short of the 1000 multi crew, I gave it a go as I am only short 30 hours :ugh: thought they might let me away with 30 short but no, I then realised my SO application was incomplete, I completed this and submitted it, although the SO positions are not advertised do you think they still may process my application???

Obbie 1st Oct 2014 16:30

I think you should stay where you are........:rolleyes:

Greenkiwi 4th Oct 2014 11:21

Hours
 
Q for Airbus FO..... How many hours are you doing on A320 or A330/340??

freddi16 7th Oct 2014 10:35

Qr
 
Hello anyone has information regarding the psa test?
Thanks

Ethiopia 16th Oct 2014 14:02

Qatar Airways first A350 completes maiden flight

samca 16th Oct 2014 16:19

Hi,

Psa test?, any info?, i have to do It and no info founded.

Thanks


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