MCC is a must for QR unless you hold a full ATPL. i have friends who passed the interview but couldn't join until they pass the MCC. Even if it is not required in your own country.

Qatar Airways info about commuting etc???
 

I am up for an interview at Qatar this month and was wondering if commuting to and from Europe is possible each month?? If so, what is the process as I hear you need an exit visa each time??
Also, I see that several have had interviews, but to hear something takes a while, what time frame is realistic to wait to hear an answer yes or no??
I also understand that the B777 is really the only aircraft to be on at Qatar as better days off, is this true??
What is the medical process like?? Is it based on the UK standards??

Any and all info on these questions and subjects would be very much appreciated!

What is a the human performance and limitation certificate?

The human performance and limitation certificate only applies to some countries. The UK doesn't have one so when I applied I put N/A in there.

Basically, they are referring to the ATPL subject "Human Performance & Limitation". They want a proof that you have successfully passed this subject either during your ATPL training or separately afterwards.

Are you sure of that ?

What about the certificate HPL (040), of course UK has one but you are not concern because you have a frozen or full ATPL, we are talking about JAA licence here, for the non JAA there will have to undergo a 5 days course except if they can provide a certificate.

So to make it simple if you hold a JAA frozen or full ATPL you are not concerned because it's certificate you get during your ATPL exams, for other people holding a CAR/FAA/etc.... you have to furnish a certificate or you will have to undergo the 5 days course during your ground training, simple as that.

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Pretty much what Sephore said.
Its nothing you need to get before coming to the airline.
If you have a JAR Frozen ATPL/ full ATPL, you're not required to do the course once you arrive. Otherwise a 5 day boring course..

Its been 4 weeks since I return my contract and I have yet to receive a joining date. Is this an anomaly or are there others waiting for a joining date?

hi
 

I am currently A320 FO have 3000 TT ATPL license just want to ask is there any chance if i pass my interview with qatar airways to get in the B777 or B787 insted of the Airbus. I always wanted to fly B777. :ugh:

You have 5% chances I would say, and 30% after 3 years in QR.

wow
 

Thanks gdukkoq. i will try if the call me for interview ask for B777 we will see what will be there reaction. i will never leave where i am just to fly A320 again its not worth it.

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I think it s not good to tell them you want the T7, with the hours you have on the bus why should they spend money to train you on boeing when they have a lack of bus drivers? More likely you can say you would like the long haul to increase your experience and perhaps you will get the 330.

Thanks for going into a bit more detail on that Sephore... on applying I was told that as we don't get "certificates" as such, just 2 pieces of paper with our results, to put N/A.

Fleet
 

look all119. Unless there are Fleet Managers on here answering questions no one knows for sure where you will go. It is highly likely you would go to the Airbus fleet as you have Airbus time but I don't know. They will put you where you are needed..period. I was asked where I would like to go. I told them. Made no difference. I have extensive international experience in the DC10 and MD11 I got placed in the A330. Quite frankly I am thrilled to be employed by Qatar.

Have a lot of you seen what is going on recently in the industry. AA chapter 11 with more furloughs. World 150+ pilots being furloughed all with extensive MD11 or 744 time. Omni parking a/c and laying off. Malev and Spanair gone. If you have interviewed and not heard anything in the past 4 weeks there is a very good chance you passed the first gate. Sit tight and be patient.

Just because you have a little bit of jet or turboprop time and a 1000 to 2000 hours doesnt make anyone "Gods gift". Yes its frustrating to wait we have all had to.

What was intimated to me and others who have interviewed, you are joining Qatar Airways not a particular fleet. If someone doesnt like the Fleet they are offered its simple. Decline the invitation and move on.

...well don't tell them that....I've seen buddies kicked out of the door for much less...apart from your "condom plane" experience (no sensitivity at all) you have great chance to be assigned to Aibuses..might me the 330.
Fleet assignment is..."where do we need now?"....of course experience is considered..I have 4600 total of wich 1000+ on widebodies multiengine..and got the 320...so this is how it goes...wanna a job?..in the best airliner of the world?..you'll probably get one but there is a but..and if you are ready to accept it...cool..if you have this douts...don't loose your time...:ok:

..in few words..they don't give a damn sh...:{

..me too 4 weeks...will join the 29th of April...:D

ziubelu

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wanna a job?..in the best airliner of the world?

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you mean a job on a B777 ??… let me ask you this if you are saying its the best airliner in the world.. then were can a experienced type rated B777 find a job?? then ask yourself.. where can a experienced A320 / A330 pilot find a job ? answer.. there are thousands of Airbus jobs world wide but very few B777 jobs to be found… No Dorothy, Bigger is not always better.

if your saying.. Qatar Airways is the best airline in the world…. hhmm, all i can say is, its not all bad but, you obviously dont work here.:}

and if your not talking about any of the above.. then never mind me.:ouch:

Wango Tango

Except for CCQ to A320 currently there are a lot more B777 jobs on offer than A330.

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one Highlight i enjoyed to read was " 4 weeks no reply ...good chances " ...
so ...close to 8 now and still patient like many many others here ...:D

Got the good news recently, interviewed in 2012.

Very happy at the moment.

Congrat Ethiopia ! Maybe U forgot to mention which month of 2012 ? :O
Enjoy the moment !

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nah,nah ITO dont get jealous .....he interviewed 1st of February...heheeh just joking:} ..now sad again :(

Yeah sorry, somewhere between Jan 1st and today... :eek:

Hi Wango z ....
It's not me saying it's the best airline in the world....it's skytrax that says it!..however, have you ever worked for banana airlines where you have a slave type treatment...and you not even deserve an e-mail when they shut the doors?....crew rest?....off days....underpaied?....I dont know if you do or have worked for a good major..if you do or did you are a lucky guy...so for my point of view it is an enormous opportunity and for the little I saw it's far better than what I had since now..except for the Air Force glory....I get quite a few ups on tripple seven jobs around the world...who cares to work in the decadent europe ..long range is another story...for me much better than bouncing up and down four times a day...:E

..anyway Wango Tango...I'll be joining very soon ...and very happy for this job...so I'll find the way to live with it, 'cause I always look back and remember where I come from!:ok:

really?...hopefully this millennium you'll be hired...:O

You might end up in the 787 in a few years...
 

all119,

I have been told that in the future, 787 pilots will likely be sourced from the A320 fleet (obviously subject to change on a whim). So, even though you may get assigned the A320 initially, you could end up in a 787 a few years down the line... :ok::}:D:cool::cool: Stay positive, smile a lot, don't stray from expectations and kiss some a$$ and it just might happen!

I've heard eventual A380 and A350 seats will be sourced from the A330/340. I guess the 777 pilots are expected to stay in their fleet - who knows???

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well..another week over ...
Nothing !:rolleyes:

Wish ya all a relaxed Weekend ,may there will be some good news in the next week ,
insha'Allah!

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Moderator, thread drift?
 

At the risk of seeming like an old grouch, this thread has descended into a stream of exchanges about the wait for news from QR ( there is another thread on this subject anyway!)
"have you heard yet?" " no, have you?" "when did you go?" "after/before you!"
"isn't the waiting awful!" etc etc!
I asked what I thought was a reasonable question about joining QR and was told to read the preceding 225 pages of above exchanges!
Unfortunately (or fortunately?!) I have better things to do!
I sympathise and appreciate the wish to share these difficult times, but.....

Is it time to redirect these personal exchanges to another thread?

Hello bond737, I´m a little worry about not having the MCC, a friend of mine that flies 777 for QR told me that MCC course is required before flying for an airline, I don´t know exactly how it works, could you tell me your experience with that issue, I probably did that course with another name when I was in the simulator for my initial in the 320, currently I´m an Airbus 319 F/O in Latin America, with 1400 hrs in type and total 2200 hrs, thanks a lot

MCC is MCC and it is not required for other than JAA licenses, to fly JAR25 A/C, in the JAR regulation you can be exempt from MCC if you have more than 500hrs on JAR25 A/C, which I did to convert my FAA ATPL to my UK JAA ATPL. Now, as far as QR they need this unless you hold a valid full ATPL. They should apply the 500hrs as well but unless you bring that subject to the QCAA you will never know.

For the non European pilots applying and asking about the MCC (Multi Crew Cooperation) certificate.

It's pretty simple.

For European operators operating multi-pilot aircraft (part 25 aircraft) you have to have either an ATPL or a CPL ME IR with all ATPL exams passed AND an MCC certificate. It does not matter how many hours you have on multi-pilot aircraft. The MCC certificate is a pre-requisite for employment. Whats the reason? In order to be issued a JAA/EASA ATPL you have to present a valid MCC certificate. That's why once you have an ATPL you no longer have to present it to an employer. It's already been presented to the licensing authority.

Now, Qatar and the GCC in general follow the European licensing system very closely; reason, many were previously British territories and they inherited their aviation regulations from the British and have continued to follow very closely after this and through the JAR and now EASA changeover.

So unless you have an ATPL an MCC certificate is required (because that's the way they roll as regards licensing and operating on a part 25 aircraft).

You could talk to the QCAA about it, but that's the same as going to any Aviation Authority within Europe and telling them they are wrong.

They aren't. You need an MCC certificate. They're not that expensive so go grab one at your nearest approved MCC training provider.

Good luck and may we all find paradise, health and wealth in the desert.

Thank you guys, they never mentioned during the interview, they were ok with me being current and having more than 1000 hrs in the type, I guess I just have to wait a little longer to find out if I'm qualified for them, meanwhile, I'll keep having fun in my little bus across South America and Caribean, looking forward to hear the good news soon and get to know that part of the world, thanks a lot again, cheers.

Well what about the 60 orders on the A-320 Neos they showed us on the presentation ?
Some of them yes could be transfered to the 787.

Thanks Potatowings,

That clears something up, I held back on my fast track SO application because of the MCC. I'm a British citizen on an FAA ATPL, currently flying in West Africa and was a little uncomfortable flying back to Europe to do an MCC just for an application, well especially during these hard times.

No problem I will go ahead with the application this weekend....

Cheers :ok:

It's my sincere pleasure AviatorJack. Glad to be of assistance to somebody.

Does this MCC issue may block a candidate to have the results of his interview at QR?:confused:
I hope that they at least tell you if you succeed first then ask you to go spend your money for an MCC…

AviatorJack

I was in a similar position to you a few years back, you might be able to get an MCC Exemption letter from the UK CAA in your circumstances (FAA ATP Multi-Crew Environment), I got one when I applied for my JAA ATPL. You would need a CAA Ref No at least probably.

www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG1164.pdf

@RK303
They asked to see my MCC and ATPL written subject results, and then a month later I was invited for a interview.