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Old 25th Jan 2024, 03:08
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Originally Posted by Mohammedd777
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Sure, Its a 2-days assessement. It was pretty chill as long you are prepared well you will be fine.

Regarding Compass and Psychometric test, not hard at all just prepare for it from Latest PilotJobs website, Purchase the Emirates assessment package Do all the tests there couple times and you will be ready.

Regarding the Simulator check: same as this, you don't need to be an expert in B737, if you did MCC, just do like what you did there like Callouts and monitoring, etc.. so prepare well and be ready

Simulator Assessment Brief (PowerPoint), as sent prior by email. This gives
chance for questions on the Simulator assessment to be answered.
 Draw is made to divide everyone into groups of 2, if you are not in the first
group then youíll have to wait in the pilot lounge and about 1 hour and 45
mins after first group started you can head to the Sim location and wait.
 Simulator profile:
o Takeoff Off from OOMS Rwy 08L, winds 353/13 knots, 500ft OVC
1000M visibility.
 No FD but Auto Throttles/Thrust allowed(Discretion of the
Instructor)
 Flaps 15 Takeoff
 FMC and over head panel set by the Instructor
o Intercept Radial 090 outbound from MCT VOR.
 If told to intercept radial inbound, then set the reciprocal!
o Climb at 250 KIAS and 1000ft/m.
o Descend at 250 KIAS and 1000ft/m
o Steep Turns, 180 degrees left and then level and 180 degrees right
at 45 AOB.
o AutoPilot engaged for ILS brief.
 ILS 08L manually flown with FD available: FOLLOW the FD.
o Visual Circuit with CAVOK weather
 1600 feet Flap 5 Takeoff and keeping same flaps till gear
goes down.
 Instructor can allow right circuit if desired.

Notes/Tips:
 Memorize all callouts
 Always trim the aircraft, careful not to run the pitch trim too long!
 Small Power lever movements
 Make all your briefs as thorough as possible.
 You will make mistakes, thatís okay, as long as you show improvement in the simulator and
learning!
I can confirm this is 95% exactly what I got when I did my assessment. One advise is don't over controll the aircraft make only small changes. They are very lenient and guide you a lot but if you make lots of basic mistakes then you might fail, yes there are many guys failed the assessment. For example if you are high on glideslope, say you are correcting and do the corrections also if struggling to land on short final you can go around which is a good decision.

Most importantly accept your mistakes dont argue or be defensive with the examiner. They are very nice people and want you to pass so show good attitude and show them you came prepared and want to pass.

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Old 4th Feb 2024, 21:06
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has anyone been successful with this programme or know of friends who have completed this programme?
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 01:57
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Originally Posted by Richard_
has anyone been successful with this programme or know of friends who have completed this programme?
Yes many
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Old 15th Feb 2024, 12:19
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Hello , may someone who applied or did the course please confirm the ATPL theory requirements for the program. I have EASA ATPL theory and from what i understood the GCAA exams are required to join. May the GCAA exams be done after passing the type rating course, or should I already pass them before even applying to CAE/Flydubai ? Thanks
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Old 19th Feb 2024, 10:45
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Hello everyone!

Has anyone managed to get in contact directly with Flydubai HR management about the conditions at Second Officer position? CAE stuff explained everything about TR itself, but I am still interested about the sallary of Second Officer at FZ (are SO's getting paid for productivity or basic salary only) and how long it takes for SO to become FO. They are mentioning something about 1500 hours, but is it 1500 TT or 1500h in the company?
If anyone can provide me with Flydubai HR e-mail, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Old 19th Feb 2024, 11:27
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Hello, is this program still going? Can an individual holding a passport from a Southeast Asian country apply for this program? Thanks

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Old 20th Feb 2024, 13:13
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Originally Posted by NocturnalNavigat0r
Hello, are there any specific eligibility requirements for joining the program? Can an individual holding a passport from a Southeast Asian country apply for this program? I posses FAA CPL ME/IR and DGCA CPL SE/IR without MCC. What would be the recommended location in the Middle East to acquire MCC? Additionally, I have not completed ATPL theory as I do not hold an EASA license. Could you suggest where I can study for the ATPL theory and where to access question banks? Thanks.
Iím having the same issues+my license is expired. But Iím holding ICAO.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 08:11
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Originally Posted by Ibizaa
Iím having the same issues+my license is expired. But Iím holding ICAO.
You need a valid license plus written ATPL subject from your home license. Even if you write the 14 GCAA exams, the 737 rating will be on your home license.
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Old 21st Feb 2024, 11:02
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
You need a valid license plus written ATPL subject from your home license. Even if you write the 14 GCAA exams, the 737 rating will be on your home license.
I can get a revalidation and the ATPL credit easily, but the MCC is a struggle. does it have to be on a 737?
however CAE are not replying to my Emails and the website leads me to nowhere. is the programme still active?
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 17:02
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Fly Dubai second officer program

Hi everybody, anyone completed the program I have few questions I would like to ask.

1-After you complete ur assessment how quick u can start ur type rating

2- after completed the examination with fly Dubai examiner how long you have to wait for the interview with fly Dubai and to start ur line training

3-Iíve read if you have certain experience (hours)you will be exempted from the GCA ATPL exams

I will appreciate your help if anyone can guide me thro.
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Old 24th Feb 2024, 04:32
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Originally Posted by Khaledswilam
Hi everybody, anyone completed the program I have few questions I would like to ask.

1-After you complete ur assessment how quick u can start ur type rating

2- after completed the examination with fly Dubai examiner how long you have to wait for the interview with fly Dubai and to start ur line training

3-Iíve read if you have certain experience (hours)you will be exempted from the GCA ATPL exams

I will appreciate your help if anyone can guide me thro.
Hi Khaled, I have heard the selected cadets wait upto 6 months to start LT... not sure if its true as I am not in the program nor have applied to...

Here is a screenshot from the Fujairah Academy website regarding the ATPL exams & exemptions....




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Old 8th Mar 2024, 15:14
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Hello, anyone with an FAA license I have a few questions,

1.I currently hold an FAA CPL license with a Multi-Engine Instrument Rating; therefore, I should only be working on a 250-hour Ground School for GCAA ATPL tests in 14 theory subjects, correct? Since FAA ATP needs 1500hrs there is no way I can get it.

2.Can I work on the GCAA ATPL ground school + examinations after the assessment and Type Rating, or do I have to complete them first?

3.I have a valid pilot license with IR and do not have an MCC; should I still finish the MCC course before the assessment? If so, which institution does Fly Dubai prefer me to do this through? Can I do this online? (The emails says: Valid Pilot License copy with IR rating / MCC certificate and ATP(L) written exam results (for all licenses))

4.Are there any other special requirements for FAA CPL holders?

5.Also the email says something about base training that is not included in the course which is do be done at candidates own expense: is base training mandatory for everyone and how expensive is it?

Any information regarding this will be very helpful for me, thank you so much!
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Old 9th Mar 2024, 03:14
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Originally Posted by thebusdriver1
Hello, anyone with an FAA license I have a few questions,

1.I currently hold an FAA CPL license with a Multi-Engine Instrument Rating; therefore, I should only be working on a 250-hour Ground School for GCAA ATPL tests in 14 theory subjects, correct? Since FAA ATP needs 1500hrs there is no way I can get it.

2.Can I work on the GCAA ATPL ground school + examinations after the assessment and Type Rating, or do I have to complete them first?

3.I have a valid pilot license with IR and do not have an MCC; should I still finish the MCC course before the assessment? If so, which institution does Fly Dubai prefer me to do this through? Can I do this online? (The emails says: Valid Pilot License copy with IR rating / MCC certificate and ATP(L) written exam results (for all licenses))

4.Are there any other special requirements for FAA CPL holders?

5.Also the email says something about base training that is not included in the course which is do be done at candidates own expense: is base training mandatory for everyone and how expensive is it?

Any information regarding this will be very helpful for me, thank you so much!
1. Yes all CPL holders need to do the theory 14 exams.

2. I think the new requirement is to do the exams before the type rating but i am not 100% sure. There were people who did it after the type rating but it should be done before joining flydubai.

3. Yes you need MCC unless you are an ATPL holder. Guys who joined with a full ATPL under this program did not have any of these requirments but for CPL you need the MCC and the 14 exams. You cannot do mcc online you need to do it in a sim and some classroom.

4. Nope, you need to meet their requirement.

5. Base training is only needed if your home country license requires it. For exams FAA licesne doesnt require base training for your type rating but if you are doing it for example on EASA license then you might have to do base training somewhere else for the rating to go in your license.
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Originally Posted by cruisepower
1. Yes all CPL holders need to do the theory 14 exams.

2. I think the new requirement is to do the exams before the type rating but i am not 100% sure. There were people who did it after the type rating but it should be done before joining flydubai.

3. Yes you need MCC unless you are an ATPL holder. Guys who joined with a full ATPL under this program did not have any of these requirments but for CPL you need the MCC and the 14 exams. You cannot do mcc online you need to do it in a sim and some classroom.

4. Nope, you need to meet their requirement.

5. Base training is only needed if your home country license requires it. For exams FAA licesne doesnt require base training for your type rating but if you are doing it for example on EASA license then you might have to do base training somewhere else for the rating to go in your license.

Thank you so much! 🫶
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Originally Posted by thebusdriver1
Hello, anyone with an FAA license I have a few questions,

1.I currently hold an FAA CPL license with a Multi-Engine Instrument Rating; therefore, I should only be working on a 250-hour Ground School for GCAA ATPL tests in 14 theory subjects, correct? Since FAA ATP needs 1500hrs there is no way I can get it.

2.Can I work on the GCAA ATPL ground school + examinations after the assessment and Type Rating, or do I have to complete them first?

3.I have a valid pilot license with IR and do not have an MCC; should I still finish the MCC course before the assessment? If so, which institution does Fly Dubai prefer me to do this through? Can I do this online? (The emails says: Valid Pilot License copy with IR rating / MCC certificate and ATP(L) written exam results (for all licenses))

4.Are there any other special requirements for FAA CPL holders?

5.Also the email says something about base training that is not included in the course which is do be done at candidates own expense: is base training mandatory for everyone and how expensive is it?

Any information regarding this will be very helpful for me, thank you so much!
​​​Hi, which email address did you use to get a reply? I used the message form on the website but didn't receive any response. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by thebusdriver1
Hello, anyone with an FAA license I have a few questions,

1.I currently hold an FAA CPL license with a Multi-Engine Instrument Rating; therefore, I should only be working on a 250-hour Ground School for GCAA ATPL tests in 14 theory subjects, correct? Since FAA ATP needs 1500hrs there is no way I can get it.

2.Can I work on the GCAA ATPL ground school + examinations after the assessment and Type Rating, or do I have to complete them first?

3.I have a valid pilot license with IR and do not have an MCC; should I still finish the MCC course before the assessment? If so, which institution does Fly Dubai prefer me to do this through? Can I do this online? (The emails says: Valid Pilot License copy with IR rating / MCC certificate and ATP(L) written exam results (for all licenses))

4.Are there any other special requirements for FAA CPL holders?

5.Also the email says something about base training that is not included in the course which is do be done at candidates own expense: is base training mandatory for everyone and how expensive is it?

Any information regarding this will be very helpful for me, thank you so much!
Hi, which email address did you use to get a reply? I used the message form on the website but didn't receive any response. Thanks.
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​​​Hi, which email address did you use to get a reply? I used the message form on the website but didn't receive any response. Thanks.
[email protected]
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Dear Cruisepower,
NEED ANOTHER INFORMATION,

In the last conversation I was told I also need to have a FAA ATP/CTP course/Exam as well. All I have is FAA CPL MEIR and I do not live in USA anymore to finish that course. Travelling to USA just for ATP will cost me a lot. All they require me to have is an ATPL no matter which country and they say I can convert my FAA license to GCAA if that helps. Which do you think is going to be of better value to my career? Getting my endorsements on FAA ATP license or GCAA license should be good enough?

Anyone with information/opinion about this, please help!
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Originally Posted by thebusdriver1
Dear Cruisepower,
NEED ANOTHER INFORMATION,

In the last conversation I was told I also need to have a FAA ATP/CTP course/Exam as well. All I have is FAA CPL MEIR and I do not live in USA anymore to finish that course. Travelling to USA just for ATP will cost me a lot. All they require me to have is an ATPL no matter which country and they say I can convert my FAA license to GCAA if that helps. Which do you think is going to be of better value to my career? Getting my endorsements on FAA ATP license or GCAA license should be good enough?

Anyone with information/opinion about this, please help!
Lots of people have this misunderstanding, First of all you cannot convert your FAA to GCAA license without a job offer or a sponsor unless you are a UAE citizen. There is no way around it. period.

In this program you will do the 737 rating based on yours FAA license that is when you complete your 737 rating it will be entered into your FAA license and it has nothing to do with the GCAA. Once you are offered the job with flydubai they will ask you to complete the 14 GCAA exam if you are CPL or 2 exams if you are a ATPL holder. Some are saying even before the rating they ask this but I can't confirm since I went with a full ATPL.

If they saying you need the ATP CTP theory then you need it. EASA guys will already have the 14 exams same goes with other country license, you need the theory exam as it's a requirement.

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Hey cruisepower,

I have some questions:
  1. Can those who have never completed ATPL theory enroll in Fujairah Aviation Academy/ Alpha Aviation for the full course and exam?
  2. If a person holds two licenses (FAA CPL Multi engine and DGCA CPL Single engine) but has only completed DGCA ATPL theory, are they eligible to take the 14 GCAA ATPL exam?

Thanks.
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