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Old 15th Aug 2022, 20:00
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Is BT leaving at the end of the year ?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 22:08
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Is BT leaving at the end of the year ?
SVP BT? hope so been useless.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 08:14
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SVP BT? hope so been useless.
been good at keeping us up to date during the pandemic
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 11:45
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been good at keeping us up to date during the pandemic
Yes he was quite quick as well to get himself back on full whack salary after a couple of weeks whilst all the pilots (other than SVP Flight training's son) were on unpaid leave for a year or so. Muppet.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 13:02
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
Yes he was quite quick as well to get himself back on full whack salary after a couple of weeks whilst all the pilots (other than SVP Flight training's son) were on unpaid leave for a year or so. Muppet.
not sure what you are moaning about. Itís all about who you know in EK for good rosters , better flights, best accommodation, summer leave allowance, more secure position, wasta for your training flights etc

Mahoneys lads never gonna be up for redundancy is he

please tell me you understood this before you moved to the Middle East???
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 14:32
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
https://www.instagram.com/captaindabble/

Not on instagram myself, my daughters are, but is that actually an Emirates Captain??
If it is they need to realize there is a life outside the cockpit.

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 16:25
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Originally Posted by VThokie2 View Post
If it is they need to realize there is a life outside the cockpit.


These guys usually don’t have much going on outside the cockpit other than pretending they are investors, wearing reflective sun glasses, trying to kite surf, wearing “Pan Am” tee shirts, tryna date women less than half of their age and building a bar in the garden.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 18:25
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe View Post
not sure what you are moaning about.

please tell me you understood this before you moved to the Middle East???
Captain Hindsight,

Like most people who join Emirates, I did my research. I knew what I was signing up for at the time.

Please can you explain how you knew what would happen since, specifically in the last 10-15 years the following happening:

Pay steps missed many times despite it being contractual.
Forced into company accommodation despite absolutely hating the place.
1500 plus pilot redundancies, sometimes randomly and often targeting people just because they had cancer, some being dismissed by a single email.
etc etc etc


It would be great to know how you knew that it would be so bad, and more importantly if you did, why did you join?

Now Mr Crystal ball. Question. I was made redundant, many less senior than me stayed, I left fairly quickly and rejoined fairly late. Is my job just to secure the SVP's families job, locals and our wonder kids with zero days sickness? In light of the Great Recession on its way, would it be stupid to stay in EK now? Am I out of the door again next time there's a new variant? Emirates certainly never do anything to make you feel too comfortable do they. Please tell us o great one.




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Old 16th Aug 2022, 20:01
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It's an unpopular, unwelcome and immutable fact that many ignore the warning signs and join our profession. Let this be a reminder that all pilots are not born equal and my job as safety pilot is to weed out all the dead wood who slipped the net in their interviews, initial training and their recurrent checks over the last couple of decades. Our standards must remain high and many won't meet those standards, good luck in your simulator details.

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 21:19
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Originally Posted by nervous novice View Post
Wasnít there some new joiner FO that was telling everyone how great he was on instagram. While everyone else was grounded and redundancies were taking place. No empathy or tact. Typical kind of moron youíd find walking around Meydan with a batty wife and daft outdoor reflective sunglasses.
He recently won a prize for taking a picture of the 380 fly past the Burj. He's a first class moron and has pissed a lot of people off with his social media accounts including some in HQ.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 23:39
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Originally Posted by VThokie2 View Post
If it is they need to realize there is a life outside the cockpit.
A life outside of Dubai! Utopia is V1 out of DXB as a passenger.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 07:22
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He recently won a prize for taking a picture of the 380 fly past the Burj. He's a first class moron and has pissed a lot of people off with his social media accounts including some in HQ.
Like that Belgian trainer who thinks heís a photographer. Itís comical, nobody likes him and most see him as some kind of looser. Yet they continue to kid themselves by pretending that emirates is their second job.

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It's an unpopular, unwelcome and immutable fact that many ignore the warning signs and join our profession. Let this be a reminder that all pilots are not born equal and my job as safety pilot is to weed out all the dead wood who slipped the net in their interviews, initial training and their recurrent checks over the last couple of decades. Our standards must remain high and many won't meet those standards, good luck in your simulator details.
Do some self reflection with your pal Ricky up there on 3rd and do us all a favour and retire.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 08:35
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Originally Posted by CraigDaDinosaur View Post
It's an unpopular, unwelcome and immutable fact that many ignore the warning signs and join our profession. Let this be a reminder that all pilots are not born equal and my job as safety pilot is to weed out all the dead wood who slipped the net in their interviews, initial training and their recurrent checks over the last couple of decades. Our standards must remain high and many won't meet those standards, good luck in your simulator details.
sorry to say but you speak with hypocraty at its best.
somebody with a 20 year life in Dubai, and because this life ending on some sick days is now dead wood which needs to sorted.
Why is it that someone doing a long landing by 200 meters in dxb(4000m RWY) gets a warning letter, while another guy having a terrain warning following a short cut, not knowing the aircrafts performance gets nothing?
Should you not think about your ďtrainingĒ if people pass decades long the recurrents and suddenly they miss all warning signs, as you call it. At the end itís only luck who is judging over the individual on a given day as you in the 3rd floor only measure with your personality but not over given, organized and well published standards. Sometimes you even invent a standard which is not even documented as such or at all just to justify your ruling.
And your justification is based weeks of brainstorming over a event which does not include the opinion of people who where actually there.

Also you have lowered the hiring standards to nearly zero, and now you are telling people who served one or decades professionally, that they are not equally born pilots and need to be sorted out like dead wood.

This is what you name as high standard. If you would have that standard you would also filter out bad apples in training, rather than protecting them there are some major slips throu the net as well.

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Old 17th Aug 2022, 08:49
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Originally Posted by nervous novice View Post
Like that Belgian trainer who thinks he’s a photographer. It’s comical, nobody likes him
Is this the guy who was abusing the redundant FO on Facebook in 2020 who was trying to make a bit of a living and help some other redundant colleagues out by selling framed photographs of the aircraft they were flying with their epaulettes and wings.

What the trainer failed to realize was that the photographers of these photos had given their permission for the use and given the circumstances at the time , it was a seriously inhuman response from that trainer, but then again these people only ever think about themselves and he was fighting for money in his pocket.

The trainer soon backed down when presented with the facts and many redundant pilots left the UAE with a memorabilia of their time flying in the Middle East. No doubt the Belgian would had stopped this if he could.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 22:19
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Heard the roadshows have been pretty quiet.....
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 23:05
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Heard the roadshows have been pretty quiet.....
Brian says the road shows are doing very well and I believe him.
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 06:30
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Yes I heard fat Mandy saying it has been busy
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 07:09
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All roadshows are busy at the moment. Brian is full of crap, not a sign of great times in Emirates.
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 12:49
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There’s big lines to get on the bus back to the labour camp in Al Quoz too. Won’t be joining it .
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:35
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Rumours going around of accommodation opt out without buying going around. Would make a huge difference to lifestyle if you didnít have to live in the Meydan dumps.
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