EK Salary Review Time Again
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Originally Posted by nervous novice
Like that Belgian trainer who thinks he’s a photographer. It’s comical, nobody likes him and most see him as some kind of looser. Yet they continue to kid themselves by pretending that emirates is their second job.
Do some self reflection with your pal Ricky up there on 3rd and do us all a favour and retire.
Do some self reflection with your pal Ricky up there on 3rd and do us all a favour and retire.
He, she or it sounds like a troll.. if not it is even more sad. Everyone can make mistakes. I.e. your scandinavian ex colleague above JFK. Had to safety debrief himself in the office.
So has anyone else heard or got proof that some of the pilots leaving have pointed out they’ve not been repaid all the money deducted during the 6 months at 50%. These guys apparently got repaid after threatening to sue? if true then any rumors of when we might get repaid,
TCBT leaving? Well he’s been been as effective as the “tub of lard” (ref bbc program Have I got news for you!). Only problem is which “yes” man will they bring in next!,
TCBT leaving? Well he’s been been as effective as the “tub of lard” (ref bbc program Have I got news for you!). Only problem is which “yes” man will they bring in next!,
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If we didn't have the bungling Persian running Flight Ops and Engineering, maybe BT and others before him would have had a chance to make some positive impact. No one lasts long in that post.
At the height of the pandemic, BT did score an own goal by peddling rumours rather than spreading fact. Many people on the 380 were hanging on every word in the weekly email, and none of us had any idea what was in store for us. During the pandemic's dark days, his weekly spiel at times resembled an opinion column in a newspaper about how quickly the airline industry would recover, rather than spreading factual and relevant information within an EK context, as one would expect from an operational update.
At the height of the pandemic, BT did score an own goal by peddling rumours rather than spreading fact. Many people on the 380 were hanging on every word in the weekly email, and none of us had any idea what was in store for us. During the pandemic's dark days, his weekly spiel at times resembled an opinion column in a newspaper about how quickly the airline industry would recover, rather than spreading factual and relevant information within an EK context, as one would expect from an operational update.
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Originally Posted by CraigDaDinosaur
It's an unpopular, unwelcome and immutable fact that many ignore the warning signs and join our profession. Let this be a reminder that all pilots are not born equal and my job as safety pilot is to weed out all the dead wood who slipped the net in their interviews, initial training and their recurrent checks over the last couple of decades. Our standards must remain high and many won't meet those standards, good luck in your simulator details.
unfortunately the recent safety record at EK does not justify such unwarranted arrogance and actually reflects very poorly indeed on the so called lol standards that you have.
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Originally Posted by All hat and no cows
Wow, no wonder the emirates guys who are showing up at my company by the boatload are delighted by our training and cockpit environment.
unfortunately the recent safety record at EK does not justify such unwarranted arrogance and actually reflects very poorly indeed on the so called lol standards that you have.
unfortunately the recent safety record at EK does not justify such unwarranted arrogance and actually reflects very poorly indeed on the so called lol standards that you have.
And as long as f/o's call sick when they have to help out in the sim...something is wrong. If you look at yhe number of flights and destinations, incidents are bound to happen like at other airlines. How they are handled is a different cookie.
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Agree with everything above.
“Do you know the captain” , “I’ll go sick for that sim instead of risking my career” all very common place
I had a CRM instructor (local guy TRI previously a TRI FO) tell the whole class that he knew one of the captains in the New York incident. Said he’d flown with him just prior to the event and then preceded to trash him for a good 5-10 minutes. Disgraceful really.
“Do you know the captain” , “I’ll go sick for that sim instead of risking my career” all very common place
I had a CRM instructor (local guy TRI previously a TRI FO) tell the whole class that he knew one of the captains in the New York incident. Said he’d flown with him just prior to the event and then preceded to trash him for a good 5-10 minutes. Disgraceful really.
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Originally Posted by Pif Paf
So has anyone else heard or got proof that some of the pilots leaving have pointed out they’ve not been repaid all the money deducted during the 6 months at 50%. These guys apparently got repaid after threatening to sue? if true then any rumors of when we might get repaid,
TCBT leaving? Well he’s been been as effective as the “tub of lard” (ref bbc program Have I got news for you!). Only problem is which “yes” man will they bring in next!,
TCBT leaving? Well he’s been been as effective as the “tub of lard” (ref bbc program Have I got news for you!). Only problem is which “yes” man will they bring in next!,
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
Agree with everything above.
“Do you know the captain” , “I’ll go sick for that sim instead of risking my career” all very common place
I had a CRM instructor (local guy TRI previously a TRI FO) tell the whole class that he knew one of the captains in the New York incident. Said he’d flown with him just prior to the event and then preceded to trash him for a good 5-10 minutes. Disgraceful really.
“Do you know the captain” , “I’ll go sick for that sim instead of risking my career” all very common place
I had a CRM instructor (local guy TRI previously a TRI FO) tell the whole class that he knew one of the captains in the New York incident. Said he’d flown with him just prior to the event and then preceded to trash him for a good 5-10 minutes. Disgraceful really.
Hearing more and more rumors of senior guys having horror missions in the sim during lpc/opc or handling sim, with demotion a not so infrequent outcome... Enjoy!
Don't ever forget you have exactly 1 life!!! Don't let them ruin your career/life!
Greetz from a greener grass place!
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Originally Posted by 5star
Occasionally visiting this forum and reading the latest posts: can only shake my head and conclude nothing has changed...maybe its even gotten worse!
Hearing more and more rumors of senior guys having horror missions in the sim during lpc/opc or handling sim, with demotion a not so infrequent outcome... Enjoy!
Don't ever forget you have exactly 1 life!!! Don't let them ruin your career/life!
Greetz from a greener grass place!
Hearing more and more rumors of senior guys having horror missions in the sim during lpc/opc or handling sim, with demotion a not so infrequent outcome... Enjoy!
Don't ever forget you have exactly 1 life!!! Don't let them ruin your career/life!
Greetz from a greener grass place!
In a similar way to the instagram clown who was mocking redundant who didn't reuturn, these people get a little hard on from feeling some accomplishment in the face of other's misery. Strange, probably happens everywhere but seems more prominent in EK and this region.
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Originally Posted by McToryMug
Yes, a CRM instructor telling his CRM class the senior captain who made one mistake was not up to the job and the termination was the best outcome for both himself and the company.
In a similar way to the instagram clown who was mocking redundant who didn't reuturn, these people get a little hard on from feeling some accomplishment in the face of other's misery. Strange, probably happens everywhere but seems more prominent in EK and this region.
In a similar way to the instagram clown who was mocking redundant who didn't reuturn, these people get a little hard on from feeling some accomplishment in the face of other's misery. Strange, probably happens everywhere but seems more prominent in EK and this region.
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https://gulfnews.com/business/aviati...ree-1.90153380
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie
https://gulfnews.com/business/aviati...ree-1.90153380
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
So there IS way better jobs out there! I don’t even want to mention the US with 2 times the EK salary, also coupled with a much better life…
Or just be a poor train driver. I wish I had done it years ago. Yes ..last year I only grossed $127000 AUD. But I get 9 weeks leave… two of those can be split into single days if you want to go to a wedding or birthday or whatever, max allowable shift is 9 hours with a minimum of 30 minute break every 4 hours. Last week I was rostered for 7 days straight.. but because I can only do 36 hours in a week..my first two shifts were 9 hours and the next 5 were between 5 and 6 hours… including meal breaks.
Roster swapping is easy and encouraged to support peoples individual life style Checks are in a “ no threat” environment ( we all lean from mistakes) …. It’s a lovely place to work.
And I’m home every night.
There is a life away from aircraft.
Roster swapping is easy and encouraged to support peoples individual life style Checks are in a “ no threat” environment ( we all lean from mistakes) …. It’s a lovely place to work.
And I’m home every night.
There is a life away from aircraft.
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie
https://gulfnews.com/business/aviati...ree-1.90153380
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
Look, Emirates already pay "among the worlds highest salaries" so there is absolutely no need for a pay rise. In fact, people working there are lucky to have such a wonderfully benevolent employer. It must be true, the Gulf News says so.
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Originally Posted by BigGeordie
I think they actually believe what they write.
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Originally Posted by nimrodjoe
I think they actually believe what they write.
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Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady
the question is more how much money they cash in after having done the research but only writing half to no true facts
Weren't they calling redundancy 'furlough' last year?
If it's so great, why does so much time and money go into trying to attract pilots to join?
