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Emirates Application 2022

Old 7th Aug 2022, 11:26
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Originally Posted by Fairey Seal View Post
I agree with you completely. EK is an excellent opportunity for new pilots and Dubai is a fantastic place to call home. Nimrodjoe is far too negative and only serves to put prospective pilots off joining EK.
may I ask you how long you are there?
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Old 7th Aug 2022, 23:02
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Originally Posted by flyTheBigFatLady View Post
may I ask you how long you are there?
Faireyseal has just joined PPRuNe, has made seven posts, five of which were within a couple of hours on day 1, the rest on day 2. Faireyseal also claims to be current on six different types and appears to be very defensive of EK. Just makes you wonder.🤔
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 00:16
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Originally Posted by Consol View Post
Faireyseal has just joined PPRuNe, has made seven posts, five of which were within a couple of hours on day 1, the rest on day 2. Faireyseal also claims to be current on six different types and appears to be very defensive of EK. Just makes you wonder.🤔
Is he posting from Costa perhaps?
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 07:46
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
Is he posting from Costa perhaps?
sounds like it is from costa while he should sit 3rd floor up
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 07:52
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Originally Posted by Fairey Seal View Post
I agree with you completely. EK is an excellent opportunity for new pilots and Dubai is a fantastic place to call home. Nimrodjoe is far too negative and only serves to put prospective pilots off joining EK.

well, 250 new joiners until April 2020 where thinking the same thing, until the got a letter saying “sorry you no more” in June 2020, meaning to leave in 14 days. Those few did not even had time to sell the furniture which was still under delivery. It was great opportunity to loose everything.
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 07:58
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Costa

Matcha tea and a cookie for me please fairly
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Old 8th Aug 2022, 08:11
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Originally Posted by Fairey Seal View Post
So you didn't fly more than 900 hours. Sounds like you are looking for something to complain about. If you don't like it you can leave, right?
Try Ryanair, I'm sure you will have a better quality of life, far less hours and get paid just as well, after tax. Obviously.
combining this one with your other posts it shows you clearly have no clue and no understanding of how long range flying works

nearly nobody did more the 900 block on controls equals stick time , but still they had been on duty on a flight for more than 1100 hours a year. Now I can see your brain working over this one. Shazeem explained already
When you fly Argumenting duties you will get
50% accounted on 4 man
66% accounted on 3 man

while on 4 man the crew swaps for return
at 2 lr or ulr flights a month you loose roughly 25% of your block time still sitting on the airplane watching the other guys doing what they do. If it’s bad you are made responsible in the same amount as the 2 in the front because you meant to monitor their doing while officially not even on duty - not paid - but made responsible
so your credited 900 block hours are only representing the stick you had not the time you where sitting there watch in uniform with the batch around your neck.
Make it up 900 + 25% to 30%
so on top of that you have a required off of 2 loc nights before and 56 hours with 2 loc nights after a ulr ( someone else please correct me if wrong) and that’s mostly what you got in between a ulr and any other flight you do unless it a east- west swap then it was a day more. But trust me doing 10 time zone west and than 10 time zone east with only 4 days inbetween are absolut killers

bottom line is yes u sit more than 1100hr a year on the airplane watching it flying

and if you don’t believe me have a look into your ek flight xls flight log online u will see that as argumenting crew on an a lax flight you only have a of max 6,5 hours as your block time, still your were onboard for 15,30 hr

Sure as you are sounding like a costa troll you only see airplanes in that amount throu the window at costa but from inside

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Old 8th Aug 2022, 08:56
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Costa

Must be some deputy either from the 3rd floor or building A. Either way, Costa in the vicinity. To say Dubai is great..you must be a proud citizen. This propaganda makes sense. Or you have the misconception you are now one of them. You will learn.
If you are a new valued member of the busy recruitment team..you are just a puppet. Talk to your predecessors. No need to suddenly defend the company. You are still a replacable asset, a guest, a labourer doing as being told.

On topic,
Depending on your current situation working and living at EK might be better. Just know you will live there to work. Having a family is tough unless you don't want to see them often. My advice is to avoid the compounds. You will live and breathe EK together with the other mercenaries. I did assume you like spending time with your family. I have seen several families families falling apart because of some golddigger cabin crew. Most of them are ready to settle.

​​​​​​But to buy property in Dubai as an alternative? Think about it carefully. The allowance is available.
Your family will spend more time in Dubai than you because you will be working day and night. Experience what it is like to be in a 'golden' cage. Just have a backupplan prepared.






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Old 8th Aug 2022, 10:47
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They work you till you die. Many new guys have no idea what they are getting into, shared with a new joiner recently who said 'I don't think Ill get a UAE passport'

Good gig for the locals, excluded from redundancies, easy roster, get their bids. Hard work for us plebs.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 20:45
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Originally Posted by Consol View Post
Faireyseal has just joined PPRuNe, has made seven posts, five of which were within a couple of hours on day 1, the rest on day 2. Faireyseal also claims to be current on six different types and appears to be very defensive of EK. Just makes you wonder.🤔
I can confirm that Fairey Seal was caught looking at PPRuNe in company time whilst he had a mountain of rosters to destroy..... sorry I mean make more efficient. I have directed for a final written warning to be issued. He is now allowed one visit to Costa per week and must consume it whilst standing in the corner of the office whilst facing the wall. This is only permitted during his lunch break.
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Old 9th Aug 2022, 22:03
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Originally Posted by McToryMug View Post
They work you till you die. Many new guys have no idea what they are getting into, shared with a new joiner recently who said 'I don't think Ill get a UAE passport'

Good gig for the locals, excluded from redundancies, easy roster, get their bids. Hard work for us plebs.
100 percent.

We all know how pleasant the recruitment team are though with candidates making them feel all special.

It is only once you have done a few training flights with one our bearded billy big balls TREs , received a few threatening regular updates off BT and had security try and stop you going into your own home you realize that you are just another prat in the desert .

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Old 10th Aug 2022, 01:42
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Originally Posted by Adele Al Redhair View Post
I can confirm that Fairey Seal was caught looking at PPRuNe in company time whilst he had a mountain of rosters to destroy..... sorry I mean make more efficient. I have directed for a final written warning to be issued. He is now allowed one visit to Costa per week and must consume it whilst standing in the corner of the office whilst facing the wall. This is only permitted during his lunch break.
Adele

By all means carry on with berating staff but for goodness sake, don’t sprout that nonsense on here. Remember we need pilots to fly our soon to be delivered …. em…. errr…. oh nevermind. The last thing we need is your hotheaded Iranian…. sorry Emirati temper scaring unsuspecting pilots away.
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Old 10th Aug 2022, 11:59
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With one of the biggest recessions the world has ever seen over the next couple of years, Middle East is NOT the place to be!
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 11:10
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Originally Posted by Mike Koal View Post
With one of the biggest recessions the world has ever seen over the next couple of years, Middle East is NOT the place to be!
Never was
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 16:49
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Don’t trust Emirates and the management. They ruined hundred of families lives and didn’t even have the decency to give the many dedicated and experienced pilots and crew they threw out, the opportunity to rejoin when the pandemic was over.

They are dishonourable smiling knives and thinking that you are special and they won’t do it to you at the drop of a hat is foolhardy. But what do I know………
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Fired600 View Post
They are dishonourable smiling knives
Didn't we all know that before we all joined though?
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 19:20
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Originally Posted by Emma Royds View Post
Didn't we all know that before we all joined though?
we could have hoped that the Sir on top would have teached them better, but it turned out that he is more than one of them as he is even worse. 10 years and he ,if even, addressed only twice announcements directly to employees before giving his knowledge and vision to the press first where the rest could read about the future and build some rumors.
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 19:43
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There's always some young baby faced Beckham who will want to join ranks. Anybody heard anything from Virgin/BA?
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 19:50
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Lets not forget all the illegal contract changes over the last 15 years.

Anyone with a Class 1 medical should be able to see that the world is on the edge of a huge recession. Now look at what they did back in 2009 when the world wasn’t going their way. The COVID pandemic just further proved they couldn’t care less about their employees, didn’t even try and make repairs afterwards. Do you really think they will change?

Good luck those joining because you and your families are going to need it come the next challenge the company faces. You have been warned,….
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 19:58
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Originally Posted by Fired600 View Post
Lets not forget all the illegal contract changes over the last 15 years.

Anyone with a Class 1 medical should be able to see that the world is on the edge of a huge recession. Now look at what they did back in 2009 when the world wasn’t going their way. The COVID pandemic just further proved they couldn’t care less about their employees, didn’t even try and make repairs afterwards. Do you really think they will change?

Good luck those joining because you and your families are going to need it come the next challenge the company faces. You have been warned,….

Not all pilots are born equal. It's a controversial but immutable fact that we have a lot of dead wood within the industry who have required chopping into bits.

We will all overcome the next challenge as we did with the pandemic, open honest and regular communications, we will all stand by EVERY employee and their families and always do the right thing. We always do, you are all our biggest asset and we appreciate everything you do.

Ps I'm a sky god.
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