Joining Qatar airways (Master thread)-2
Joined: Jan 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 6
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From: Qatar
I think this discussion would benefit from lowering the temperature a little.
Dan hasn’t claimed that everything at QR is perfect, nor has he dismissed the fact that others may have had different experiences. What he has done is provide context from his own career, including experience with more than one operator, and explain why, on balance, he considers his current situation preferable. That’s not sycophancy; it’s comparative analysis.
It’s entirely reasonable for someone to assess their employment as a business transaction. Most of us do. We exchange our time, skill, and responsibility for compensation and conditions. Some will prioritise money, others command progression, others stability or family life. None of those motivations are inherently inferior.
Where the conversation derails is when disagreement turns into character assessment. Labelling someone as naive, inexperienced, or “fawning” doesn’t strengthen the argument, it weakens it. If the goal is to debate policy, management quality, upgrade times, or treatment standards, then let’s do exactly that: debate the substance.
It’s also worth recognising that satisfaction and criticism can coexist. A person can acknowledge flaws while still concluding that, overall, the package works for them. That does not invalidate those who feel differently, but the reverse is also true. Being dissatisfied does not automatically grant greater insight.
Ultimately, professional discussions work best when we assume good faith. If someone says their experience has been largely positive, perhaps the more productive response is to ask why, rather than to imply ulterior motives.
Different perspectives are valuable. Dismissing them outright isn’t, FYI, I am still very happy in QR, even though things can improve, no company is perfect and the fact that we know where the problems actually lie is a big plus.
Dan hasn’t claimed that everything at QR is perfect, nor has he dismissed the fact that others may have had different experiences. What he has done is provide context from his own career, including experience with more than one operator, and explain why, on balance, he considers his current situation preferable. That’s not sycophancy; it’s comparative analysis.
It’s entirely reasonable for someone to assess their employment as a business transaction. Most of us do. We exchange our time, skill, and responsibility for compensation and conditions. Some will prioritise money, others command progression, others stability or family life. None of those motivations are inherently inferior.
Where the conversation derails is when disagreement turns into character assessment. Labelling someone as naive, inexperienced, or “fawning” doesn’t strengthen the argument, it weakens it. If the goal is to debate policy, management quality, upgrade times, or treatment standards, then let’s do exactly that: debate the substance.
It’s also worth recognising that satisfaction and criticism can coexist. A person can acknowledge flaws while still concluding that, overall, the package works for them. That does not invalidate those who feel differently, but the reverse is also true. Being dissatisfied does not automatically grant greater insight.
Ultimately, professional discussions work best when we assume good faith. If someone says their experience has been largely positive, perhaps the more productive response is to ask why, rather than to imply ulterior motives.
Different perspectives are valuable. Dismissing them outright isn’t, FYI, I am still very happy in QR, even though things can improve, no company is perfect and the fact that we know where the problems actually lie is a big plus.
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL(H)
Posts: 9
Likes: 21
From: Karachiabad
"The employer of choice, for those with no other choice."
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
Joined: Jul 2024
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From: Outbush
"The employer of choice, for those with no other choice."
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
1. If you don’t like the sound of going to QR, don’t go. And then stop whining. Or,
2. If you are there and don’t like it - leave. And then stop whining. No one made you accept the job.
Very simple.
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 11
Likes: 19
From: Sing
"The employer of choice, for those with no other choice."
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
This applies primarily to First Officers.
For Captains, it is actually a good deal, as few other airlines hire narrowbody pilots directly onto widebody fleets.
First Officers, it is advisable to consider alternative options. While the current package remains competitive globally, it is gradually becoming less attractive as others improve their terms and benefits. Considering upgrade times are now exceeding 8 years, remaining in the right seat in Doha means missing out on a Captain’s salary elsewhere.
The strategic move is to secure an upgrade and PIC time elsewhere, then join as a DEC.
Joining this airline results in a polarizing experience. it is typically loved or hated.
Officially, this is a non-commuting contract. While some pilots do commute, the toll is evident, and they rarely appear satisfied.
Employees must accept working for an unforgiving, demanding global player that has survived countless crises thanks to deep pockets.
Payment is always on time, regardless of geopolitical or economic volatility.
Personnel are treated as small gears in a vast corporate machine that incentivizes managers to cut costs by rewarding them with a share of the savings. Consequently, there is a constant decline in the quality of layover hotels, crew meals, uniforms, etc.
Improvements occur only when cutbacks begin to negatively impact flight operations.
These fixes are then proudly advertised as "generous," yet they still fail to reach the original standard.
It is a system where compliance is king.
Personnel do only what is instructed or expected. initiative is rarely taken. Decision-making is passed along the chain of command to avoid liability.
Employees are lonely components in a huge machine, expected to operate without issues. otherwise, they face punishment or replacement.
Ultimately, the role is simple: Follow the countless rules, show up on time, fly from A to B without flagging something for the safety department or becoming a news headline, and you maintain a stable job that pays well - with nice perks like world class travel benefits from day one.
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: London
QR Assessment day
Hi guys,
I have an upcoming assessment day with QR. Was wondering if anyone has any feedback regarding the process? I'm a boeing rated pilot and was told I had to do a quiz at the beginning of the day. Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
I have an upcoming assessment day with QR. Was wondering if anyone has any feedback regarding the process? I'm a boeing rated pilot and was told I had to do a quiz at the beginning of the day. Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
Joined: Oct 2025
Aviation Qualifications: Spotter
Posts: 40
Likes: 37
From: Hidinginplainsight
Man, i am so glad you wrote this.. and i stop here my comment.
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 5
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From: Qatar
Basically DONT
Guys, ex QR here, if you are a captain go ahead it’s your company! If you are a first offficer and if you don’t have to save one of your immediate family member’s life and need instant cash go to Qatar Airways, if you have exhausted all your options, you are desperate go to QR! If you think you are below average and sloppy pilot go to QR! But if you are non of those go somewhere else but not QATAR!
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Qatar
look at this smart panties! Tell me that you are a south asian without telling me !
Joined: Feb 2026
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From: Qatar
Joined: Jan 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 6
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From: Qatar
Joined: Feb 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 1
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From: India
Repeated Qatar Airways Rejection- What am I missing?
Hi everone,Hi all,
I’m hoping to gain some constructive insight from those who have successfully progressed with Qatar Airways.
I’ve applied three times over the past few monnths and unfortunately haven’t progressed beyond the initial screening stage. The response has consistently stated that after careful consideration, I do not meet the requirements.
For context:
What I find slightly confusing is that I understand colleagues with comparable and in some cases lower flight time have progressed to assessment.
I fully appreciate that recruitment is competitive and may depend on factors beyond minimum hours, but I would genuinely value any insight into what screening departments may look for beyond published requirements.
Is there something applicants commonly overlook in their profile or application formatting that could trigger early rejection?
This is the email I have received every single time.
Thats the email I have received every single time.
Appreciate any professional guidance.
I’m hoping to gain some constructive insight from those who have successfully progressed with Qatar Airways.
I’ve applied three times over the past few monnths and unfortunately haven’t progressed beyond the initial screening stage. The response has consistently stated that after careful consideration, I do not meet the requirements.
For context:
- 34 years old
- Current widebody(B787) First Officer
- Experience on both Airbus and Boeing
- Current ATPL
- All published minimum requirements met
- Clean training record
What I find slightly confusing is that I understand colleagues with comparable and in some cases lower flight time have progressed to assessment.
I fully appreciate that recruitment is competitive and may depend on factors beyond minimum hours, but I would genuinely value any insight into what screening departments may look for beyond published requirements.
Is there something applicants commonly overlook in their profile or application formatting that could trigger early rejection?
This is the email I have received every single time.
Thats the email I have received every single time.
Appreciate any professional guidance.
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 250
Likes: 8
From: Earth
Very likely your nationality is on the banned list. The airline is already an Indian airline in many ways and so they want to diversify. Certainly the case for cabin crew. This alongside issues around logbook forgeries and questionable documents is why they will no longer hire from certain countries.
Joined: Mar 2025
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: Czech Republic
Hi everybody. Anyone else having trouble applying through their official website? I am trying to apply for the Type Rated First Officer (Boeing) position and after creating an account and logging in, it tells me "The job is not longer available". However the closing date is 31.3.2026. Did anyone apply recently? Did it work? Thank you.
Joined: Oct 2025
Aviation Qualifications: Spotter
Posts: 40
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From: Hidinginplainsight
I cannot help you , but just to be sure : do you understand that there is war going on in the Middle East? One more question, after three times.. what do you want them to tell you? Isn’t the message clear enough? You won’t join QR. No airline is giving feedbacks.
Joined: Mar 2026
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 1
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From: Jordan
Joining qatar airways
Hello everyone hope you are doing well
I am NTR applying to QR
E190 1300hr
tot 1800hr
24 years , E190 FO
I have passed the assessment on b787 3d of December
, in the pool since 18th od December.
I have received delayed intakes massage 26/27 recently.
1- When I expect to have my joining dates and it will be so long to have it .
2- some of my colleagues from the airline with same background they did assessments after me and they get call , their joining on a320 why you think they jumped on me .
3- what aircraft I expect to have and does it worth it as young first officer to pay home airline bound to work with QR
thanks alot captains
I am NTR applying to QR
E190 1300hr
tot 1800hr
24 years , E190 FO
I have passed the assessment on b787 3d of December
, in the pool since 18th od December.
I have received delayed intakes massage 26/27 recently.
1- When I expect to have my joining dates and it will be so long to have it .
2- some of my colleagues from the airline with same background they did assessments after me and they get call , their joining on a320 why you think they jumped on me .
3- what aircraft I expect to have and does it worth it as young first officer to pay home airline bound to work with QR
thanks alot captains
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 172
Likes: 163
From: Hong Kong
Hello everyone hope you are doing well
I am NTR applying to QR
E190 1300hr
tot 1800hr
24 years , E190 FO
I have passed the assessment on b787 3d of December
, in the pool since 18th od December.
I have received delayed intakes massage 26/27 recently.
1- When I expect to have my joining dates and it will be so long to have it .
2- some of my colleagues from the airline with same background they did assessments after me and they get call , their joining on a320 why you think they jumped on me .
3- what aircraft I expect to have and does it worth it as young first officer to pay home airline bound to work with QR
thanks alot captains
I am NTR applying to QR
E190 1300hr
tot 1800hr
24 years , E190 FO
I have passed the assessment on b787 3d of December
, in the pool since 18th od December.
I have received delayed intakes massage 26/27 recently.
1- When I expect to have my joining dates and it will be so long to have it .
2- some of my colleagues from the airline with same background they did assessments after me and they get call , their joining on a320 why you think they jumped on me .
3- what aircraft I expect to have and does it worth it as young first officer to pay home airline bound to work with QR
thanks alot captains
Joined: Jan 2025
Aviation Qualifications: SLF
Posts: 169
Likes: 144
From: Mars
I'm sure if you secured a seat on a flight to DOH (and managed to land among the missiles firing) and went straight to the HQ to ask them, that would show a significant level of determination and I'd be surprised if you weren't put on a course next Monday.
Be sure to pack all your belongings.
Be sure to pack all your belongings.
Joined: Feb 2025
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Indonesia
Hi everybody. Anyone else having trouble applying through their official website? I am trying to apply for the Type Rated First Officer (Boeing) position and after creating an account and logging in, it tells me "The job is not longer available". However the closing date is 31.3.2026. Did anyone apply recently? Did it work? Thank you.
i just did it yesterday by the way