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EK resignations on the up again...

Old 22nd Aug 2018, 16:43
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Also look up most expensive bill London.

City boy racks up £200k bill. That was 2012
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 16:51
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Originally Posted by Killer Loop View Post


Easy to waste money anywhere in the world on these items.

Agreed. Unfortunately, the expensive prices apply to most everyday items too.

It's not a competition and we do see high prices around the world but Dubai does seem to kick it to the next level in my opinion - on all goods, luxury to basic needs. There is no escape from the high cost of living here unless you are prepared to live frugally - which defeats one of the purposes of becoming an expat for most people.

Potential new joiners really need to factor these costs in and not simply convert Dubai salary to their current currency and think they will become rich quickly.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 17:20
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I agree Dubai does have hidden costs.

With our long term friends calculating costs vs take home salary.
Costs were higher in Dubai no doubt. My friend reckons itís just a correction to balance the government accounts and should stabilise in 2-3 years. Thatís just his opinion though.
With the U.K. as you work up to higher salaries your not taking the extra amount home. Once you add in the extra tax rates and donít forget you lose your tax free allowance once you get over a certain amount, I think itís about 110k canít remember.
It does get a bit demoralising. My wife works and because of our combined salaries we lose out on certain child cares and marriage allowances etc, just because we are both in ďwell paidĒ jobs we lose out?
With all numbers crunches I could work at EK and we would have the same disposable as we have now. All child care, food etc etc.
If my wife wants to continue working it would add to it but as a banker she has had enough. No flexible working at her job to allow her to look after our child.

EK rosters? Well I have heard both sides of the coin. A colleague went there 2 years ago and he says itís ok, not easy but with a bit of personal management you can survive.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 17:28
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS View Post


Agreed. Unfortunately, the expensive prices apply to most everyday items too.

It's not a competition and we do see high prices around the world but Dubai does seem to kick it to the next level in my opinion - on all goods, luxury to basic needs. There is no escape from the high cost of living here unless you are prepared to live frugally - which defeats one of the purposes of becoming an expat for most people.

Potential new joiners really need to factor these costs in and not simply convert Dubai salary to their current currency and think they will become rich quickly.
Agreed. Costs should be factored in. Iím just not sure your original argument was apt.




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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 17:45
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS View Post
Perhaps I should have added.

Not my bill. It was doing the rounds on social media a while ago.

But it does show how easy it is to spend/waste money here.
Thats a ď localĒ bill ..or possibly one of the Russkie
party animals whose numbers seem to be in decline these days .. Tres Vulgare and fits the total lack of class
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 17:50
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Originally Posted by Jack D View Post


Thats a ď localĒ bill ..or possibly one of the Russkie
party animals whose numbers seem to be in decline these days .. Tres Vulgare and fits the total lack of class
No argument there.

But, it is all part and parcel of life in Dubai - whether you partake in it or just observe it and that amount of disposable income in circulation is a major driver of inflation for all goods. Hence the £15+ for a beer at an average bar or £10 for 100g of coffee as mentioned in a previous post.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 20:08
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I was in Germany recently and went grocery shopping there. For what I could buy there, it is nothing compared to Dubai. Go shopping for 5 to 10 items and you definitely need to fork out between 70 to 80 AED. Milk alone sets you back between 5 to 10 AED. Life here is expensive and I think most of us don't want to live like beggers. It is just not worth staying here as all money we make gets sucked out of your pocket before you had time to check you bank balance.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 20:17
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post

EK rosters? Well I have heard both sides of the coin. A colleague went there 2 years ago and he says itís ok, not easy but with a bit of personal management you can survive.
All your arguments are 'my friend this my friend that', where as you have many here who have been in the UAE a long time and are telling you straight from the horses mouth. The point is not to just survive, if you don't believe us then please feel free and apply, the more the merrier and the less hours the rest of us have to do.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 20:32
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Does Emirates provide a public seniority list of pilots to its workforce? Can you as a pilot actually see how many pilots there are and where you stand on the seniority list?

Thanks.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 21:10
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Well yes colleagues and friends. I know these people on a personal level it’s natural I would trust them more.
I have applied going through the process at the moment.
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 21:50
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
Well yes colleagues and friends. I know these people on a personal level itís natural I would trust them more.
I have applied going through the process at the moment.
Iím afraid youre suffering from shiny jet syndrome. Come on over. Bring the family. We all know youre going to anyway, regardless of what we say.

EK is abit like a ladyboy. Attractive from afar, but those in the know keep telling you its a bloke.
Still, it looks........

But it is a bloke. And itís not so much fun when you find out you married it for 5 years.

Iíll get me coat.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 01:52
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Yes I think the resignation rate is a bit high for the last 6 months but recruiting rate also is acceptable, but the problem is the level of experience is going down as of the turbo prop guys joining right now, but i think its a good chance for thise guys to prove that they are good enough to be on the wide body seat.

I wish it gets better because it will help every one and will help the company , just need to be a bit positive and optimistic about it, the company had an awesome time before so its normal to have some difficulties between time and time as the hole industry around the world is running short of pilot.

Pilots in the company sharing there experiences and ideas to make work better but the problem no one would here or even give it a try. Thats true that we are very rare to fly less that 85 hours per month and mixing night and day and ULR and short TAís. The only thing that i would really like to give the company a heads up is look up for your folks health.

Unfortubately now the company have stopped the live leave until further notice, and the 42 days leave is not granted too. I would still have the hope that till the end of this year it will get better and we will go back for the laxuries rosters of 60-70 hours flying
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 02:21
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Adam perfect analogy!
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 04:51
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Originally Posted by mikeobflya View Post
Does Emirates provide a public seniority list of pilots to its workforce? Can you as a pilot actually see how many pilots there are and where you stand on the seniority list?

Thanks.
Nope, that was removed years ago. The seniority list we see is 'adjusted' into a format that doesn't allow this and it is not possible to download and convert it.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 06:46
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If its online one way or another it can be copied

Felix very easy to download and convert
A link to get you going or just use print function in chrome print to pdf then copy into excel.
Takes seconds.
But then why bother seniority here is not even worth the paper its printed on.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 11:49
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Does not matter what we say.. AH123 will never believe it. In about 2 years he might.. but not now ...
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 17:28
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Originally Posted by Joker11 View Post
I was in Germany recently and went grocery shopping there. For what I could buy there, it is nothing compared to Dubai. Go shopping for 5 to 10 items and you definitely need to fork out between 70 to 80 AED. Milk alone sets you back between 5 to 10 AED. Life here is expensive and I think most of us don't want to live like beggers. It is just not worth staying here as all money we make gets sucked out of your pocket before you had time to check you bank balance.
Really? I don't know what you buying boet but life is expensive most decent places in the world these days. I do some shopping on trips and some here, purchase alot of locally grown produce is in the CO-OP these days and its not expensive.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 18:53
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I have lived in the UAE for two years (not EK) but everything except the money and the winter weather is better EVERYWHERE in Europe (including even the UK&#128527.

The fact that you live in a free country where you have certain civil Rights is worth ten times more then a huge stack of dirhams and a fast left seat on a WB. DXB is nice on a layover or perhaps on a commuting contract but to live there fulltime when everyone in Europe is hiring is just plain stupid.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 06:24
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Originally Posted by checkerboard6 View Post
Really? I don't know what you buying boet but life is expensive most decent places in the world these days. I do some shopping on trips and some here, purchase alot of locally grown produce is in the CO-OP these days and its not expensive.
CO-OP is good. Local veggies are both cheap and good. Spinneys has also a good option for cheap vegetables. But come on. Life ain't cheap here and it is slightly cheaper in other countries. Not in ZA as I suspect you are a Saffa by the term "Boet". See above comment. I think it sums it up nicely.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 07:42
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EK resignations are up again, everybody else leaves but not the guys who post for 10+ years that they are leaving
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