EK resignations on the up again...
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Well in terms of the company allowance: it changes from time to time. They have many empty houses but afaik not many apartments - that’s the rumor.
Salary and expected upgrade time are not that bad here if you are a FO. Dubai is at all not a shitty place - especially if you make friends quickly initially and then start to select your new core friends. Most of the times it’s not the place it is yourself,your believes kind of thinking which decrease your happiness.
More people are leaving than joining. Some very old and senior Cpt said that they might adjust salary again. Since this has happened in the past it must of course not necessarily happen in future again..
Salary and expected upgrade time are not that bad here if you are a FO. Dubai is at all not a shitty place - especially if you make friends quickly initially and then start to select your new core friends. Most of the times it’s not the place it is yourself,your believes kind of thinking which decrease your happiness.
More people are leaving than joining. Some very old and senior Cpt said that they might adjust salary again. Since this has happened in the past it must of course not necessarily happen in future again..
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Very little job satisfaction, and zero work/life balance, is what Ek comes down too. Ek is trying to be a first world airline with third world mentality/management. If work is all you want to do, then its the place for you. Rosters are non existent, pay & conditions are below standard compared to first world/top airlines, toxic hostile work enviornment, factory housing, treated with very little respect etc. looking forward to leaving as well, its been an eye opener for sure.
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Originally Posted by Rainman7
Very little job satisfaction, and zero work/life balance, is what Ek comes down too. Ek is trying to be a first world airline with third world mentality/management. If work is all you want to do, then its the place for you. Rosters are non existent, pay & conditions are below standard compared to first world/top airlines, toxic hostile work enviornment, factory housing, treated with very little respect etc. looking forward to leaving as well, its been an eye opener for sure.
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It’s the same everywhere anyway. They need loads of people but won’t decrease the super long duties or increase the pay, what are you going to do..this is tge reality of the profession. Thruth is, if you’re young open to new experiences and looking for a good time I doubt doing 4 legs 12/13 hrs days is the way to go. But what do I know
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Originally Posted by felixthecat
Everyone does their best, but the experience levels have and continue to drop. Very experienced people leaving being replaced with very inexperienced. Draw from that what you wish.
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Originally Posted by PW151
Hey Everyone - So, I'm seeing lots of comments suggesting there are better places than EK. Which airline would you suggest a Canadian airline pilot go to overseas in order to make good money, while living an acceptable lifestyle?
Well I guess Saudia is off the table.
Stay where you are. Unless you suffer from da big shiny shiny
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YP,
That’s one of the best and most accurate post I have read in a long long time...
it makes me laugh when some people say that the weather is only bad in July and August but from September it’s lovely, in my experience from May to the end of October it’s pretty much unbearable!
That’s one of the best and most accurate post I have read in a long long time...
it makes me laugh when some people say that the weather is only bad in July and August but from September it’s lovely, in my experience from May to the end of October it’s pretty much unbearable!
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My last 777 roster consisted: 20 sectors (7 turn arounds) plus sim and ground duty, 9 finishes after midnight, 7 finishes after 6am, 9 days off (2 are single days off. such as 1 day off in 11 days of duty, some are company days off which could be removed).
.....and yet there are people on this forum reading everything that's posted here and still deciding to join. That sort of roster will kill you, literally.
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.....and yet there are people on this forum reading everything that's posted here and still deciding to join. That sort of roster will kill you, literally.
CP
.....and yet there are people on this forum reading everything that's posted here and still deciding to join. That sort of roster will kill you, literally.
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Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding
My last 777 roster consisted: 20 sectors (7 turn arounds) plus sim and ground duty, 9 finishes after midnight, 7 finishes after 6am, 9 days off (2 are single days off. .
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AimHigh no disrespect but no night flying and no jet lag....... that says it all really. I wish I could sleep in the spare room as opposed to controlled rest for '20 mins'. Till you have worked the long haul to this level and flown night after night and jet lagged up to the eyeballs you really have no idea. I have flown both sides of the fence and there is no comparison. The vast majority of the complaints are not money based they are life style and exhaustion based.
£2k a year service charge as we live in a flat.....try guys here paying £5500 a year for apartment service charges.
Yeah there are certain high costs in Dubai compared to U.K./London. Yeah we live in London so it is expensive, our local is £6 a pint.... try £12-£15 a pint
Went to a nice restaurant the other day and we spent nearly £200 with only half a bottle of wine and 2 glasses of champagne. .... try over £100 a head for a fairly average meal and a glass of wine in a decent restaurant. Add champagne ...hahaha
£2k a year service charge as we live in a flat.....try guys here paying £5500 a year for apartment service charges.
Yeah there are certain high costs in Dubai compared to U.K./London. Yeah we live in London so it is expensive, our local is £6 a pint.... try £12-£15 a pint
Went to a nice restaurant the other day and we spent nearly £200 with only half a bottle of wine and 2 glasses of champagne. .... try over £100 a head for a fairly average meal and a glass of wine in a decent restaurant. Add champagne ...hahaha
An extreme example maybe but that is over $100,000 for a night out - and this bill was a few years ago before VAT. Probably add another 50% for inflation now too.
Perhaps I should have added.
Not my bill. It was doing the rounds on social media a while ago.
But it does show how easy it is to spend/waste money here.
Not my bill. It was doing the rounds on social media a while ago.
But it does show how easy it is to spend/waste money here.
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
Perhaps I should have added.
Not my bill. It was doing the rounds on social media a while ago.
But it does show how easy it is to spend/waste money here.
Not my bill. It was doing the rounds on social media a while ago.
But it does show how easy it is to spend/waste money here.
Originally Posted by Killer Loop
Easy to waste money anywhere in the world on these items.
It's not a competition and we do see high prices around the world but Dubai does seem to kick it to the next level in my opinion - on all goods, luxury to basic needs. There is no escape from the high cost of living here unless you are prepared to live frugally - which defeats one of the purposes of becoming an expat for most people.
Potential new joiners really need to factor these costs in and not simply convert Dubai salary to their current currency and think they will become rich quickly.
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
Agreed. Unfortunately, the expensive prices apply to most everyday items too.
It's not a competition and we do see high prices around the world but Dubai does seem to kick it to the next level in my opinion - on all goods, luxury to basic needs. There is no escape from the high cost of living here unless you are prepared to live frugally - which defeats one of the purposes of becoming an expat for most people.
Potential new joiners really need to factor these costs in and not simply convert Dubai salary to their current currency and think they will become rich quickly.
Last edited by Killer Loop; 22nd Aug 2018 at 16:52.
