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felixthecat 10th Aug 2018 11:47

EK resignations on the up again...
 
I'm hearing rumours that since the wonderful pay review that resignations have shot up. That helped along by GCAA releasing letters so that people have been able to provide then to requesting airlines.

RK Blue sky 10th Aug 2018 15:22

Does the increase in pilots leaving EK surprise anyone? Who is going to stay at this dump with so many better options available? It’s not like we can’t more money and work less hours in a civilized country.

Voodoo 3 11th Aug 2018 08:49

Fear not! Apparently everything will be back to normal by the Autumn (1.40 onwards)


Joker11 11th Aug 2018 09:36

Can't wait to add mine. Counting the days....

Murrenfan 12th Aug 2018 13:38


Originally Posted by felixthecat (Post 10220020)
I'm hearing rumours that since the wonderful pay review that resignations have shot up. That helped along by GCAA releasing letters so that people have been able to provide then to requesting airlines.

I can see we have now the exact same number of pilots we had back in sep 2016. Not sure how many airframes were added or returned in this period.

Mfan.

Xulu 12th Aug 2018 17:59

They were added to the DWC aircraft museum.

Sheikh Your Bootie 12th Aug 2018 19:53

Only 1x380 and 2x 777 in storage at DWC as of yesterday.

SyB :zzz:

Xulu 13th Aug 2018 05:50


Originally Posted by Sheikh Your Bootie (Post 10221930)
Only 1x380 and 2x 777 in storage at DWC as of yesterday.

SyB :zzz:

And what will that look like after the Summer peak? I'm anticipating record numbers parked in November.

Adam Barfy 13th Aug 2018 07:31

Maybe we’ll pick up some pilots from Turkish.

They get paid in Lira.......

WwP 13th Aug 2018 12:02


Originally Posted by Adam Barfy (Post 10222233)
Maybe we’ll pick up some pilots from Turkish.

They get paid in Lira.......


Do you recommend ek for turkish people? Unfortunately lira is in a big big trouble nowadays.

ExDubai 13th Aug 2018 15:18


Originally Posted by WwP (Post 10222446)



Do you recommend ek for turkish people? Unfortunately lira is in a big big trouble nowadays.

For sure, the money is much better @EK. I'd suggest you take some time and read the forum. There is a reason why EK is short on pilots.

Cralis 20th Aug 2018 04:27

Out of interest, it seems like a lot of people (flight deck crew) don't like EK, and the way they look after crew. Low pay etc. Would this have ANY adverse affect on safety? I ask as an aviation enthusiast, but also, someone who will be travelling on EK in December/January.

felixthecat 20th Aug 2018 04:58

Everyone does their best, but the experience levels have and continue to drop. Very experienced people leaving being replaced with very inexperienced. Draw from that what you wish.

Schnowzer 20th Aug 2018 18:05


Originally Posted by Cralis (Post 10228461)
Out of interest, it seems like a lot of people (flight deck crew) don't like EK, and the way they look after crew. Low pay etc. Would this have ANY adverse affect on safety? I ask as an aviation enthusiast, but also, someone who will be travelling on EK in December/January.

Wouldnt worry, it’s not just EK, it’s the industry’s problem. EK still try to get good folks and train them well, the FOs lack experience when they start but most will have been on the jet for a few years and passed the training. But why would a business let experience go just to save a few bucks. Welcome to globalization, you can always get someone to do it worse for less😉

RK Blue sky 20th Aug 2018 19:36


Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding (Post 10229132)

I think it’s reasonable to expect a fall in the number of new joiners following the removal of the accommodation allowance. It’s a deal breaker for many.

But the low pay and crazy work hours aren’t a Deal Breaker? Who are we attracting?

fatbus 20th Aug 2018 21:43

For every 1 that resigns there is another that " retires" and or medical . Great spinning of stats! Just look at the totals at year end .

PW151 20th Aug 2018 23:59

Hey Everyone - So, I'm seeing lots of comments suggesting there are better places than EK. Which airline would you suggest a Canadian airline pilot go to overseas in order to make good money, while living an acceptable lifestyle?

whatsyourbeef 21st Aug 2018 02:11


Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding (Post 10229132)
I think it’s reasonable to expect a fall in the number of new joiners following the removal of the accommodation allowance. It’s a deal breaker for many.

Has this particular change to the package occurred before?

In your opinion is there any chance that once company accommodation fills up again they'll reconsider offering the allowance?

my salami 21st Aug 2018 04:21


Originally Posted by whatsyourbeef (Post 10229359)
Has this particular change to the package occurred before?

In your opinion is there any chance that once company accommodation fills up again they'll reconsider offering the allowance?

Experience have shown that whatever was lost, it was lost forever...

MS

flyster 21st Aug 2018 05:21

Well in terms of the company allowance: it changes from time to time. They have many empty houses but afaik not many apartments - that’s the rumor.

Salary and expected upgrade time are not that bad here if you are a FO. Dubai is at all not a ****ty place - especially if you make friends quickly initially and then start to select your new core friends. Most of the times it’s not the place it is yourself,your believes kind of thinking which decrease your happiness.

More people are leaving than joining. Some very old and senior Cpt said that they might adjust salary again. Since this has happened in the past it must of course not necessarily happen in future again..



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