Stay away from Emirates. (EK)
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It’s Ok for others to repeat themselves ad-infinitum so you don’t have to ‘chew glass’, whilst they have to ‘chew glass’ repeating themselves yet again for you.
You also expect the command quickly again, without putting in the work? You then get upset at peoples comments as to your laziness, not really a great start is it.....
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It’s only fair to share experiences with potential new hires at EK. It’s a long prison sentence if you realise after 1year that you made a mistake. I know of several people who are still at EK and describe their feeling as being on a permanent heightened state of anxiety and pressure pot of anger.
When they see the cost of a jar of pasta sauce costing 5 or 6 times more than the price in the UK you start to see exactly where your money goes in UAE. Cellblock H or meydan south and the regular problems, the list just goes on. I wish I had never made the move away from UK. I have had 3 pay rises in just over 12 months and a big fat bonus yesterday. You don’t even get the contractual pay rises at EK.....the ones written in black and white! Am I lying at EK guys???? Let the newbies know the truth at least
When they see the cost of a jar of pasta sauce costing 5 or 6 times more than the price in the UK you start to see exactly where your money goes in UAE. Cellblock H or meydan south and the regular problems, the list just goes on. I wish I had never made the move away from UK. I have had 3 pay rises in just over 12 months and a big fat bonus yesterday. You don’t even get the contractual pay rises at EK.....the ones written in black and white! Am I lying at EK guys???? Let the newbies know the truth at least
The other bits in your post, well hope it all works out for you.
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Having left EK and now settled into my new ‘lovely’ home I cannot believe how happy and free I feel. I wasted 7yrs in Dubai, and came away with nothing but anxiety over sim checks, road rage, reduced crew ULR flights, delirious sleep habits, planning of vacations and general BS! My pension fund has grown at twice the rate of EK (and no threat to take even a penny from me if I leave tomorrow!). I am now part of a company that has respect for every employee. I literally feel free to live! The bags under my eyes have gone! I have more excess cash in my pocket each month than I did at EK! Anyone that says that the EU only offers the likes of FR is wrong! The gulf is losing the last bit of appeal. Good luck to the die hards
short flights long nights
Off thread a bit. A friend just sent me a video of the Norwegian pilot crew rest on their 787s. Even a so called LCC, can have the proper Boeing crew rest. Makes EK look like a complete joke.
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What type of pilot would consider this laugh sheet? I know the ones I am flying with.
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To be fair, not everything about EK is that bad. Compared to legacy carriers it might not hold up, but those represent about 10% of the industry. Then there are the Chinese outfits ….. but compared to the rest, EK can hold some ground.
For the newbees or wannabees I would mention two problems:
One are the hours. The net ones, the ones on the back side of the clock and the ones with excruciating time zone differences. It’s only when you no longer fly them, that you realise how much time of your life they actually chewed away from you.
Two is the polluted air of Dubai, very rarely mentioned here. Again, it is only when you’ve been away in a cleaner environment for a while, that you realise how much better you sleep, how much less you snore (the wifey thanks you) because your throat and nose are more sane. The constant smog and sand-dust in the UAE take a toll. If compared to Indian or Chinese cities, Dubai may seem almost clean (think about that when opting for a Chinese outfit). But try living in an average, smaller European or American city for two months. It’s literally an eye opener.
For the newbees or wannabees I would mention two problems:
One are the hours. The net ones, the ones on the back side of the clock and the ones with excruciating time zone differences. It’s only when you no longer fly them, that you realise how much time of your life they actually chewed away from you.
Two is the polluted air of Dubai, very rarely mentioned here. Again, it is only when you’ve been away in a cleaner environment for a while, that you realise how much better you sleep, how much less you snore (the wifey thanks you) because your throat and nose are more sane. The constant smog and sand-dust in the UAE take a toll. If compared to Indian or Chinese cities, Dubai may seem almost clean (think about that when opting for a Chinese outfit). But try living in an average, smaller European or American city for two months. It’s literally an eye opener.
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[QUOTE=glofish;10533701]To be fair, not everything about EK is that bad. Compared to legacy carriers it might not hold up, but those represent about 10% of the industry./QUOTE]
EK is bad in every capacity and not by a little bit. By a lot!
Dont you think you’re the top 10% of the pilot group? So why shouldn’t you be top 10% of pay and working conditions?
The two reasons you mentioned for not joining EK are huge, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more valid reasons not to join.
EK is bad in every capacity and not by a little bit. By a lot!
Dont you think you’re the top 10% of the pilot group? So why shouldn’t you be top 10% of pay and working conditions?
The two reasons you mentioned for not joining EK are huge, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more valid reasons not to join.
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Which bracket are you referring to and what currency are you basing your Top 10 on?
Just a starting point, we’re not even close to the top but I’ll give you we’re in the Top Half of Pilots.
If you just include International Widebody carriers than we’re in the Bottom 50%.
Just a starting point, we’re not even close to the top but I’ll give you we’re in the Top Half of Pilots.
If you just include International Widebody carriers than we’re in the Bottom 50%.
Only half a speed-brake
USD net income + pension / provident + housing + education + insurances + medical cover (cost of equivalent) + perks (otherwise taxable). Who else pays better NET, (save for US legacies)? I do suggest everyone in Europe (geographical) gets provided less. I do not wish to be confrontational, after all we agreed on the first half which probably triggered me to chime in, and yes it's just a wild guess from my side.
I have good faith with the majority here saying the cost of the place and life experience makes the income for many just not worth it, even by quite a margin. That's a different kettle of fish to what you said, hence my remark.
I have good faith with the majority here saying the cost of the place and life experience makes the income for many just not worth it, even by quite a margin. That's a different kettle of fish to what you said, hence my remark.