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Old 10th Oct 2016, 16:59
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Pay Scales

I just noticed this on the group career website. Entry level 1 or 2?

Based on 85 block hours:

Captain: 42,695 AED per month (entry level 1)
Captain: 47,265 AED per month (entry level 2)
First Officer: 30,125 AED per month (entry level 1)
First Officer: 35,080 AED per month (entry level 2)

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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:05
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They will be queuing up to come.....

Wonder who the target audience is, Qatar, Turkish, Oman Air, Gulf Air, Cathy.......?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:18
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So a new 'level 2' F/O who meets some unstated criteria gets paid 3000 AED per month more than a 4 year Emirates F/O who meets the upgrade criteria? They really know how to motivate the workforce.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:24
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Hum.. No mention of company accommodation ?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:34
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No hourly pay?

I think they actually lowered the salary for new entrants as the new salary says its 30k with hourly pay based on 85 hrs! Did they remove hourly pay? Can't find it anywhere anymore.

Housing allowance is listed in the FAQ section.

Requirements for scales:

a First Officer on our Boeing 777 and A380 fleets, you must meet these minimum requirements:

2000 hours flying an aircraft with a MTOW of 20 tonnes or more; OR
3000 hours flying an aircraft with a MTOW above 10 tonnes.
ICAO English level 4 or above (or equivalent)
If you are currently type rated on B744, B777, B787 or A330/340/350/380 you may be entitled to an enhanced package. This is based on:

5000 hours flying an aircraft with a MTOW of 50 tonnes or more; of which
3000 hours are on B744, B777, B787 or A330/340/350/380 and;
500 hours were flown in the last 12 months before joining Emirates
ICAO English level 5 or above (or equivalent)
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:36
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If someone were to resign, then re-apply, you could get a pay bump

The accommodation bit is under the FAQ's on the left side of the screen under the Pilots section.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:39
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One of those chaps in the Pic works for QR. Bout right for this place.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:39
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Plus a319/320 time doesn't seem to count as scale2?!? So now that counts the same as biz jet time to ek?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:39
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They now pay more if you have an x amount of hours before joining
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 17:51
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So pay has increased and accommodation has dropped to DHS 159,840 pa for an FO and DHS 179,400 pa for a skipper!

Obviously the increase in pay far offsets the drop in accommodation allowance making it a bum deal for any long serving staff!

Is there something I'm missing here, something that would make it cost neutral!
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:08
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Education

Check ESA under FAQs.
Not got my HRD running here but that definitely looks like a reduction to me.

Something strange is going on here.
Is this the CM effect?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:19
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And all the A380 extra requirements are also gone. 2000hrs on a 20T aircraft, or 3000hrs on a 10T aircraft. Edit: No Airbus time required!

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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:28
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Have I missed something? Because when you add up 12x the higher amount and throw in 160k for the accommodation allowance (as stated on the website) that gives an income of approx 48kAED per month for FO on band 2. That's a whole load more than I make now!!! Time to FO!!!!! What a bunch of f****n cretins. You just couldn't make this up.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 18:51
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And the schooling has dropped to 60K for secondary...

Have heard that all contracts for pre existing employees are being brought into line with the advertised.

Hello Qatar my old friend, I've come to talk to you again.......
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 19:07
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And when might they bother communicating this enormously important missive to the existing troops?

Have to say, since the advent of the new DSVP, it seems that any Comms are on a need to know basis!

And the gimps wonder why people don't want to stay. Incredulous!!!
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 19:32
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And EK can't be sued for "contract adjustment" as being a semi-government entity, they are not subject to Labour Law in the UAE. Bonuses all-round for the Costa Dwellers. All this from CM and a lot more to come. I feel so sorry for my friends left there.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 20:19
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Originally Posted by SilverSeated View Post
And the schooling has dropped to 60K for secondary...

Have heard that all contracts for pre existing employees are being brought into line with the advertised.

Hello Qatar my old friend, I've come to talk to you again.......
Really?

Source?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 21:06
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Really?

Source?
It says 40/60 in the FAQ section of the careers website. Probably just not updated for a while. It's 46/70 in my pay review from 2014.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 21:14
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Originally Posted by lospilotos View Post
It says 40/60 in the FAQ section of the careers website. Probably just not updated for a while. It's 46/70 in my pay review from 2014.

Pay Review 2014 makes Housing:

FO: 171,900
Capt: 192,900

Pay Review 2015 makes Education:

Primary School: 47,500
Secondary School: 72,500
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 21:20
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Los

Spike is correct.

My 'Source?' reference WIRT:

"And the schooling has dropped to 60K for secondary...

Have heard that all contracts for pre existing employees are being brought into line with the advertised."

I call BS
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