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Nikita,
One thing no one else can say on this forum : You tried to fight the system all on your own. Maybe you did loose, but at least you have a clear conscience. Which not many can say.
You seem to have a well balanced opinion and at times you seem to be able to corner some of the bullies on this forum (oh yes, there are so many of them on the flightdeck). Well done!
You must be a real strong woman... Much more than our 'girl' covered in the ridiculous ek ad.
You can put me on your followers list! :-)
One thing no one else can say on this forum : You tried to fight the system all on your own. Maybe you did loose, but at least you have a clear conscience. Which not many can say.
You seem to have a well balanced opinion and at times you seem to be able to corner some of the bullies on this forum (oh yes, there are so many of them on the flightdeck). Well done!
You must be a real strong woman... Much more than our 'girl' covered in the ridiculous ek ad.
You can put me on your followers list! :-)
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So, nikita, you swore on an email to your management and take issue with the fact that it got you fired, not the content of the complaint? Use of foul language and ranting at management will always result in that. There are far more mature ways of putting your point strongly to management but in a positive way that elicits sympathy and respect rather than causing confrontation. I have done exactly that on several occasions in several companies and subsequently got what I was after. Thumping tables and shouting at people will not get them on side, and doing it to your superiors is going to get you in trouble. If you still can't see that, you are doomed to the same outcomes in your future jobs. You may well have had just cause to complain, and just cause to be angry, but if you complain in an angry way, you will always lose, no matter who you work for. Do you not realise that if management are seen to give in to angry or threatening employees, they lose control and chaos ensues? They cannot do that, and if confronted publicly by bolshy subordinates, they can only have one response, and that is to fire that staff member as it would otherwise set a terrible example. You tied their hands and dug your own fate.
Really, accept you screwed up how you handled the situation, that you are responsible for that, and move on with your life. You are a bitter obsessive, and you are also a staff member who was never crew, let alone a pilot, on a pilot forum. Your comments in any thread are always inflammatory, seldom on topic and have no benefit to the discussion at hand. I tried to sensitively encourage you to have a healthier attitude in the PM, for your own health and happiness, to let it go and move on, but instead you chose to continue to antagonise all on here, not just EK management. Please, you're not helping us or yourself. Find something better to do with your time than obsess over your past.
Really, accept you screwed up how you handled the situation, that you are responsible for that, and move on with your life. You are a bitter obsessive, and you are also a staff member who was never crew, let alone a pilot, on a pilot forum. Your comments in any thread are always inflammatory, seldom on topic and have no benefit to the discussion at hand. I tried to sensitively encourage you to have a healthier attitude in the PM, for your own health and happiness, to let it go and move on, but instead you chose to continue to antagonise all on here, not just EK management. Please, you're not helping us or yourself. Find something better to do with your time than obsess over your past.
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I never shouted on people. And I tried the nice way many times. My e-mail was also nice. 
And managers have listened. I still get e-mails from my friends and unknown people thanking me for changes inside AS. For a whole month after I was fired and started a blog nobody in AS got a warning letter and nobody was called for "a meeting". After that, management was very careful not to do anything wrong because they didn't want their name to show up on my blog.
Changes, you say? There is no other way to deal with bully than slap them a few times. In educational purposes, of course. If your way works (in EK and Middle East), how come things get worse with each day?
I am not obsessive, I just still run the blog and still get e-mails asking me for help. I moved on long ago. And I am here, on this forum, occasionally. But every time I show up here I am attacked by same nicknames and profiles. It's time for you to learn that this is internet. (Relative) Freedom of expression for all and a new mean in fight againts bullies. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I will show up and write whenever I feel like it although I was not a crew or a pilot, therefore my worth is... less, according to you? False arrogance always reveals your internal insecurities, especially if you hide behind your profession.
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And managers have listened. I still get e-mails from my friends and unknown people thanking me for changes inside AS. For a whole month after I was fired and started a blog nobody in AS got a warning letter and nobody was called for "a meeting". After that, management was very careful not to do anything wrong because they didn't want their name to show up on my blog.Changes, you say? There is no other way to deal with bully than slap them a few times.
In educational purposes, of course. If your way works (in EK and Middle East), how come things get worse with each day? I am not obsessive, I just still run the blog and still get e-mails asking me for help. I moved on long ago. And I am here, on this forum, occasionally. But every time I show up here I am attacked by same nicknames and profiles. It's time for you to learn that this is internet. (Relative) Freedom of expression for all and a new mean in fight againts bullies. And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I will show up and write whenever I feel like it although I was not a crew or a pilot, therefore my worth is... less, according to you? False arrogance always reveals your internal insecurities, especially if you hide behind your profession.
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I have not bullied you, Nikita, but you have made comments that were overly aggressive toward me as well as others. You have a history of upsetting people, but insist you are the victim. Do you not think, perhaps, that you may be lacking tact or discretion in how you present your issues, or even that you may have a perception issue where you feel singled out and bullied when you are in fact being treated like anyone else?
Regardless, your persistence and manner on here are not only indicative of obsession, depression, paranoia and a certain level of malice, all signs of psychological health issues, but is also increasing your levels of these problems. As before, I urge you to walk away and find something positive and fulfilling to expend your time and intellect, for not only your own happiness, but your own health.
Regardless, your persistence and manner on here are not only indicative of obsession, depression, paranoia and a certain level of malice, all signs of psychological health issues, but is also increasing your levels of these problems. As before, I urge you to walk away and find something positive and fulfilling to expend your time and intellect, for not only your own happiness, but your own health.
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Oh, so, besides being a pilot, you also practise psychiatry, Aluminium shuffler? What a genius you are. Doctor House would be proud of you. Maybe he would even let you be one of his patients.
I will let mods deal with you.
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Chill, D79. I changed my settings and only see four. So what's the big deal? You had to make an effort to log on and read through the posts. Part of your terms and conditions to check the 'Pruners?
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Nobody needs psychology training to recognise the issues when made so apparent. Many people have tried to give you well intended advice, privately and not, but if you continue to post hatred on a forum not intended for you about subjects which are of no concern to you, then your surprise at others' response is another failure on your part.
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Alum Shuffler seems quite intent on trying to talk down to Nikita. Pity it's failing miserably. She pretty much owns him a few posts back.
Give it up. She's tougher and braver than 99% of the big talkers who lack the balls to put their job on the line the way she did. She nails it: bullies need to be slapped sometimes. It's the only language they understand.
And the ME is chock full of bullies, more than a few with wings pinned to their chests.
The clown who disparages the move to Easyjet based on the equipment change comes to mind.
Give it up. She's tougher and braver than 99% of the big talkers who lack the balls to put their job on the line the way she did. She nails it: bullies need to be slapped sometimes. It's the only language they understand.
And the ME is chock full of bullies, more than a few with wings pinned to their chests.
The clown who disparages the move to Easyjet based on the equipment change comes to mind.
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One should learn to respect individuals not entities. Simple human courtesy.
Whatever law says, no entity is equal to or above an individual.
Individuals siding with entities to tarnish other individuals, one day it will be your turn to be at receiving end.
Boring, think about it.
Whatever law says, no entity is equal to or above an individual.
Individuals siding with entities to tarnish other individuals, one day it will be your turn to be at receiving end.
Boring, think about it.
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'Tougher and braver'? Well, I don't think anyone on this forum could question her integrity or honesty. She fought for her principles and for improvements in T&C's. She also demonstrated dogged determination and tenacity in fighting her case through whatever means she had available and for that alone, she deserves credit and a certain amount of admiration. Certainly a true David vs Goliath. What I do question, however, is her lack of foresight in approaching her employer in the manner in which she did. Having the balls is one thing, having awareness of 'the game' is another. For someone so intelligent her ignorance in culture, both Company and National, was a massive oversight on her part. If it wasn't an oversight then it was arrogance, not ignorance, that became her downfall.
To compare her situation with that of a professional pilot is like the preverbal apples & oranges. The majority of pilots here left secure employment and everyone joined the bottom of the seniority list, mostly planning for the long term. Families have settled, with children established in good schools. Some have purchased properties. Wives may also have established careers or jobs here. Regardless, all will have made new friends. Their 'investment' can be considerable, both emotional and financial. A line Captain with under 15 years in the Company would be on a package of over $270K per year tax free with accompanying F class entitlement.
She on the other hand was a young single female in a job, not a career, earning a fraction of that. Of the two, it's fairly obvious which is the easier to walk away from. As for respect, that definitely works both ways.
So, I'm sure 'respect' is something our colleague Ashley, whom this original discussion is about, would appreciate just a fraction of right now. Or have we forgotten the purpose of this thread?
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To compare her situation with that of a professional pilot is like the preverbal apples & oranges. The majority of pilots here left secure employment and everyone joined the bottom of the seniority list, mostly planning for the long term. Families have settled, with children established in good schools. Some have purchased properties. Wives may also have established careers or jobs here. Regardless, all will have made new friends. Their 'investment' can be considerable, both emotional and financial. A line Captain with under 15 years in the Company would be on a package of over $270K per year tax free with accompanying F class entitlement.
She on the other hand was a young single female in a job, not a career, earning a fraction of that. Of the two, it's fairly obvious which is the easier to walk away from. As for respect, that definitely works both ways.
So, I'm sure 'respect' is something our colleague Ashley, whom this original discussion is about, would appreciate just a fraction of right now. Or have we forgotten the purpose of this thread?
Harry
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that became her downfall.
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Well said Harry. I have flown with Ashley and found her to be a good pilot and solid individual. I had a better impression of her than I do of some of the naysayers on this thread.
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How would you know that, Nikita, on your salary? You sound like a jealous bolshevist trying to teach anyone who'll listen about life according to you. The best bolshies always have a comeback; no doubt you do too.
Time to move on.
Time to move on.
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There's an easy solution to that, AS: stop attacking me (talking about misogyny). I think it's more than obvious that I don't have a bullying victim mentality and I will slap you back.