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Old 25th Aug 2015, 09:50
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Fatty,

14yrs ago you needed 2500hrs total, and 1000hrs jet to get into EK. You paid your own airfare to and from. And as you said, the wait to interview was a long one.
I had just under 8000hrs, and was the lowest houred fella in my group.
Times, they be a changing.
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Old 25th Aug 2015, 12:46
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and a multitude of applications of speedbrake and thrust. Now look at what you get today....
And regularly both at the same time, that's always lots of fun!!
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Old 25th Aug 2015, 13:58
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Ok, I have to ask. In 22000 hours, I never encountered a Chinese glide slope ( except in China). So, what is it?
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Old 25th Aug 2015, 14:00
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SOPS,

Think VNAV path dependence.
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Old 25th Aug 2015, 14:17
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Thanks Don.
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Old 25th Aug 2015, 16:13
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I suppose I am one of the few that still recommend EK.
5 years ago I applied and was called in 10 days and my experience was :
2600 jet time with 3000k total.

5 years later im already a captain at EK so has worked like a charm for me...

Sure its not as good as it was 10 years ago but im still happy.

Just put in your head about 7-8 years for command so anything earlier you will be happy!
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:13
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Striker26 out of line

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Reading pprune for a month is not license to post on behalf EK pilots

We complain for a reason ... You are not welcome to assume our position and give alternatives

Please refrain from breaching when you are literally clueless


Good luck finding a decent airline job ... I certainly hope you do soon .. Gives the rest of us a break from having to scroll through ur absurd posts
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 13:31
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Not very long time ago

Is there a probation period for pprune ?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 13:40
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I'd reckon he's been here less than than 12 months. Very experienced chap he is.
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 14:51
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Such a shame and a pity that EK has lost the propaganda war against its most valuable and important commodity. An utter management failure of epic proportion , scale and cost to the business. Pilots are onto you EK.
Flight crew that previously bought into the smoke and mirror propaganda machine of EK have finally realised all that glitters is not gold.
With the current conditions of flight crew employment worldwide , EK has moved from near the top to near the bottom in my mind. They will never get the pleasure of my 15,000 hr wide body command CV. They should be ashamed of what they have done to a once great airline. The management and ownership have themselves to blame.
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 17:05
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They will never get the pleasure of my 15,000 hr wide body command CV.
Were we all supposed to be impressed by that little nugget of BS?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 17:12
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Common VFE. I think he is talking about his night hours.
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 17:18
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mock your own colleague
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 07:38
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Originally Posted by Am NOT Sure
Not very long time ago
And you're already moaning like a seasoned 15 year veteran. You talk about probation periods and licences - how about a probation period on new-joiners moaning about this job over issues that have been common knowledge on here for years and years.

To paraphrase yourself, '...for reasons unknown to us you (joined) and the results surprise you.'

Get some time in.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 10:53
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Originally Posted by vfenext
Were we all supposed to be impressed by that little nugget of BS?
I think the point is that 15,000 hour widebody guys do not aspire to join the airline anymore...

That is a significant statement, irrespective of how it came across.

If experienced Captains leave the Company and only 500 hr guys join does that leave the balance of experience across the Company that we desire?

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Old 28th Aug 2015, 11:33
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I think the guy deserves support, at least he has seen through the PR BS.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 13:11
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Of course it's not all wide body , I didn't think I owed a breakdown other than the most obvious vfenext. Bitterness towards fellow colleagues is unnecessary and only furthers the PR campaigns of these unprincipled operators. I'll leave in-fighting for the less intellectually capable. Be my guest vfenext.
My point remains that experienced flight crew will not apply to EK if this race to the bottom of T's & C'c continues. They need us more than we need them.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 13:40
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I personally think it is far more significant to see your younger and considerably less experienced pilot who decides not to apply to EK.

As you mature and gain experience, then one naturally becomes more selective about where they wish to work. It speaks volumes of the significant internal problems within the company, when the lure of a modern wide body rating and a varied route network (perhaps not A330 ) is not enough to entice enough to join. Perhaps the recent realignment of the recruitment minima may solve that issue?
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 15:31
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At the risk of getting my inbox full of those that tell me to shut up, there is a life out of EK.

For some, it's going to another job. In my case, it was just going home. ( and yes, I do enjoy it a lot, I won't mention the dogs), however can I say, to those that stay, be nice to each other. Because each other, is all you have.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 15:57
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As someone originally interested in EK, I was keen to know more when the mins dropped. I'm ex TP, now jet, but not yet near the original min reqs.

After speaking to a mate already in EK, who confirmed all the horror stories, his advice was ..... Run a mile (in the opposite direction!)

Such a shame.
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