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It may not necessarily be the case WK, apparently Airbus expect customers to take delivery of the non modified 380's and then have them fixed in their own (airline time) as per the maintenance directive until 2014 when the "new" wings will be fitted.
It seems that this is one of the major issues between Airbus and customers at the moment...
It seems that this is one of the major issues between Airbus and customers at the moment...
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Nah. If you were junior enough to get bumped back to the baby bus, there'll never be enough A380's on the property for you to get a LHS on it. Especially if these envious Boeing pilots you imagine, that are senior to you, want on it! lol Good news though, I've yet to meet a single Boeing pilot with even a hint of interest in moving over, so that's working for you at least. 
Could be a little competitive though with only a couple dozen taken when the sand finally settles on the crack fiasco.
Another shrewd move: taking the "Ex-380" name, seeing as it could be a much-desired nickname in the next few years.
Dreams are free! (Too bad wings aren't.)
Could be a little competitive though with only a couple dozen taken when the sand finally settles on the crack fiasco.Another shrewd move: taking the "Ex-380" name, seeing as it could be a much-desired nickname in the next few years.
Dreams are free! (Too bad wings aren't.)
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Time will tell if the bubbles will burst on ex a380 driver. With the problems on the a380 and most of the major Asian airlines are not even placing any orders, even if they did it's a lingering few. My guess is that 380 will ended up like the MD11 with less than 300 in the skies. Twins are here to stay..777, A350, 787..
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The backlog remained pretty much the same as it did back then. SQ has sent a RFP from Boeing and Airbus and we shall see of SQ orders more 380
380, get over it...size doesn't matter in flying..
380, get over it...size doesn't matter in flying..
And that's kinda the point, 380- the orders haven't grown, except for the EK top-up, since day one, and there doesn't seem to be any prospect of it doing so.
The 747-8 is approaching those numbers, while the back-log for the 777 and 787 is 380 and 820 respectivley.
Face it- it is never going to make a red cent for Airbus, indeed I've heard the A350 program is in trouble due to the money going to the A380.
I like traveling up-front of the thing, and I'm sure flying it is a nice gig- but as a manufacturing program it's been a big white elephant.
The 747-8 is approaching those numbers, while the back-log for the 777 and 787 is 380 and 820 respectivley.
Face it- it is never going to make a red cent for Airbus, indeed I've heard the A350 program is in trouble due to the money going to the A380.
I like traveling up-front of the thing, and I'm sure flying it is a nice gig- but as a manufacturing program it's been a big white elephant.
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It may not worth anything to you because of your ignorance. You can't accept the fact that some of us here criticize the quality of your 380. Grow up dude...we all have our different opinions and that's LIFE.
It may not worth anything to you because of your ignorance. You can't accept the fact that some of us here criticize the quality of your 380. Grow up dude...we all have our different opinions and that's LIFE.
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before EK I flew 737,757,767,777 in EK 330,340,380, so I think I have a little insight in both, the 380 is the nicest piece I ever flew, my personal opinion.
When I flew the 737 I thought it was the best plane ever because it was my first one, I think many of our 777 drivers never flew anything big before EK and are brainwashed as I was when I was 25 years old.
before EK I flew 737,757,767,777 in EK 330,340,380, so I think I have a little insight in both, the 380 is the nicest piece I ever flew, my personal opinion.
When I flew the 737 I thought it was the best plane ever because it was my first one, I think many of our 777 drivers never flew anything big before EK and are brainwashed as I was when I was 25 years old.
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Originally Posted by etops777
You can't accept the fact that some of us here criticize the quality of your 380
As for 'comfort' type of quality. Well, I'd rather be a passenger in an EK 777 than the 343 or 332. BUT, the 380 is far better quality. Very quiet, big suites up the front (top) and a decent bar
Far surpasses anything else I've ever travelled on.
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Originally Posted by GoreTex
etops777
before EK I flew 737,757,767,777 in EK 330,340,380, so I think I have a little insight in both, the 380 is the nicest piece I ever flew, my personal opinion.
When I flew the 737 I thought it was the best plane ever because it was my first one, I think many of our 777 drivers never flew anything big before EK and are brainwashed as I was when I was 25 years old.
before EK I flew 737,757,767,777 in EK 330,340,380, so I think I have a little insight in both, the 380 is the nicest piece I ever flew, my personal opinion.
When I flew the 737 I thought it was the best plane ever because it was my first one, I think many of our 777 drivers never flew anything big before EK and are brainwashed as I was when I was 25 years old.
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This message is hidden because Ex A380-800 driver is on your ignore list.
It's as if a particularly annoying toddler just left the room.
Try it, you'll like it and you will be able to hear yourself think whilst conversing with the adults.
Try it, you'll like it and you will be able to hear yourself think whilst conversing with the adults.
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etops777 before EK I flew 737,757,767,777 in EK 330,340,380, so I think I have a little insight in both, the 380 is the nicest piece I ever flew, my personal opinion. When I flew the 737 I thought it was the best plane ever because it was my first one, I think many of our 777 drivers never flew anything big before EK and are brainwashed as I was when I was 25 years old.
The thread is not about how does each type of ac fly but the quality of the plane and its orders.
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Tip of the hat to whichever one of you jokers tacked the “Save The Dugongs” newspaper article up on the bulletin board in the employee service center.
Need I remind you, it’s not good form to slap the mother and tell her the baby is ugly.
Be nice.
Need I remind you, it’s not good form to slap the mother and tell her the baby is ugly.
Be nice.
They might be a bit fugly, but they are still aerodynamic. Dugongs just have a big fat everything. The 380 has a big forehead, just like a beluga
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I guess it is a matter of personal preference and your own experience, but from an external aesthetic point of view, none of the airplanes discussed (including the 777 and A380) can hold a candle to this:
Photos: Boeing 787-881 Dreamliner Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Now that is a beutiful airplane. I hear it flies nice too. Looks like the boys at Qatar and the other big, nameless UAE carrier will find out soon enough...
Photos: Boeing 787-881 Dreamliner Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Now that is a beutiful airplane. I hear it flies nice too. Looks like the boys at Qatar and the other big, nameless UAE carrier will find out soon enough...
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A380 cracks fixes to start early next year | ATWOnline
A380 cracks fixes to start early next year
By Karen Walker and Kurt Hofmann | May 25, 2012
Modifications to repair wing rib cracks on in-service Airbus A380s will begin in the first quarter of 2013 and the composite material at the root of the problem will no longer be used on new-production aircraft delivered from 2014.
The cracks issue, discovered early this year, resulted from a carbon fiber-aluminum material known as 7449 that was used in A380 wing rib feet construction. The material was selected because it is both lightweight and strong, but it is now known that it becomes brittle during the production tempering process. Although the problem did not show up on computer modeling during the A380’s design and development or on demonstrator aircraft, it is now known that the material is affected by natural up and down wing movements during flight and also by extreme temperature variances.
The European Aviation Safety Agency issued an airworthiness directive, extended to all in-service A380s, ordering mandatory inspections of the wing ribs (ATW Daily News, Feb. 9).
EADS CEO Louis Gallois has said the fix for the 71 A380s in service will cost €105 million ($138 million) and will be borne by Airbus.
Briefing reporters in Toulouse, France on Wednesday, Airbus EVP-programs Tom Williams said a demonstrator aircraft with the modifications would begin flying from around the third quarter this year and parts for the retrofits would be available to airlines from early 2013. Williams said the repairs could be done in one of two ways—either as a single, nose-to-tail program or in a series of repairs fitted into routine C check maintenance schedules. “We are still working out how long the aircraft will need to be grounded,” he said.
Lufthansa German Airlines CEO Carsten Spohr told ATW last week that he expected repairs to put each aircraft on the ground for four weeks. “Next year, one of our A380s will always be on the ground. We are in talks with Airbus about compensation for the non-production of our aircraft when they are not flying," Spohr said.
The A380s delivered from early 2014 will have a new all-aluminum rib design.
Williams admitted that Airbus was “pretty concerned” when the cracking problem was first discovered but was now confident it understood the issue and had the solution. “It was very disappointing and embarrassing in front of our customers, who have been extremely supportive in terms of the inspection process,” he said.
A380 cracks fixes to start early next year
By Karen Walker and Kurt Hofmann | May 25, 2012
Modifications to repair wing rib cracks on in-service Airbus A380s will begin in the first quarter of 2013 and the composite material at the root of the problem will no longer be used on new-production aircraft delivered from 2014.
The cracks issue, discovered early this year, resulted from a carbon fiber-aluminum material known as 7449 that was used in A380 wing rib feet construction. The material was selected because it is both lightweight and strong, but it is now known that it becomes brittle during the production tempering process. Although the problem did not show up on computer modeling during the A380’s design and development or on demonstrator aircraft, it is now known that the material is affected by natural up and down wing movements during flight and also by extreme temperature variances.
The European Aviation Safety Agency issued an airworthiness directive, extended to all in-service A380s, ordering mandatory inspections of the wing ribs (ATW Daily News, Feb. 9).
EADS CEO Louis Gallois has said the fix for the 71 A380s in service will cost €105 million ($138 million) and will be borne by Airbus.
Briefing reporters in Toulouse, France on Wednesday, Airbus EVP-programs Tom Williams said a demonstrator aircraft with the modifications would begin flying from around the third quarter this year and parts for the retrofits would be available to airlines from early 2013. Williams said the repairs could be done in one of two ways—either as a single, nose-to-tail program or in a series of repairs fitted into routine C check maintenance schedules. “We are still working out how long the aircraft will need to be grounded,” he said.
Lufthansa German Airlines CEO Carsten Spohr told ATW last week that he expected repairs to put each aircraft on the ground for four weeks. “Next year, one of our A380s will always be on the ground. We are in talks with Airbus about compensation for the non-production of our aircraft when they are not flying," Spohr said.
The A380s delivered from early 2014 will have a new all-aluminum rib design.
Williams admitted that Airbus was “pretty concerned” when the cracking problem was first discovered but was now confident it understood the issue and had the solution. “It was very disappointing and embarrassing in front of our customers, who have been extremely supportive in terms of the inspection process,” he said.
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What does this mean for EK? It is all well and good that there is a fix but is Emirates still going to take all 90 plus aircraft.
I have to get off the mini bus and fast. As I said earlier I can't do this much longer. Just got June's roster and 8 days off with 4 midnight turnarounds to the 3rd world as a top bidder. One layover and most night flights. What is there to look forward to?
Anyone considering joining EK on the Airbus should really think twice. You will not last long on this fleet.
I have to get off the mini bus and fast. As I said earlier I can't do this much longer. Just got June's roster and 8 days off with 4 midnight turnarounds to the 3rd world as a top bidder. One layover and most night flights. What is there to look forward to?
Anyone considering joining EK on the Airbus should really think twice. You will not last long on this fleet.