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Old 17th May 2012, 06:51
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A lot of hoo-har and speculation chaps! And ladies.

Let's face it, building large metal objects to hurl through the air is quite an engineering undertaking. After all, it took many years for the 737 fleet to show the fatigue issue in that design - the open top Aloha, and a few years of service for the A300 before folks realised the rudder wasn't designed for tramping on from left to right and back again in a hurry.
More recently the Dreamliner has had extensive delays! The 747-8 doesn't meet fuel burn calculations; so much so that Cargolux refused the first delivery for a period of time. It's AVIATION folks...

As long as we get a pay-cheque every month - that's what counts heh?
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Old 17th May 2012, 08:36
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White Knight, there is a bit more to it than the paycheck at the end of the month (although that is important as well).

Those of us stuck on the minibus and being killed slowly by the grinding fatigue of the rosters are probably more concerned about lifestyle than money at the moment. Similarly, those on the same fleet who have had command courses delayed indefinitely (while their colleagues who joined on the Boeing have been Captains for months already) would like to know what is going on.

The silence from the company is predictable but no less unwelcome for that.
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Old 17th May 2012, 08:54
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didnt they stop 330 to 380 and do right to left?
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Everyone thinks the 777 is the more economical than the 380 but no one has talked about lease rates and operating costs or the fact that Dubai Inc owns a big part of EADS, you might find the 380 is more economical bases on unit cost compared to the almighty 777. Hence the reason they are getting 90. 777 is a great A/C and boeing knows it so they are not going cheap.
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Old 17th May 2012, 09:31
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Everything is up in the air right now (except the 380!!) but what is for certain is that yesterday's plan has changed. No where near the numbers of pilots required this year, expect very few 330 to 380 slots and upgrade courses cancelled.
The company will announce a change of plan shortly but until the 380 delay is made official we will hear nothing.

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@BigGeordie...funny one's perception of "minibus"....
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Your thoughts on investing in Gold please.
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….and the moon landings
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Sitty's contribution to pprune....

9/11 a CIA conspiracy

Currencies dead...we all would use precious metals for trade (didnt he say he would run down SZR if gold was lower this year....ha!)

America to blame for every problem in the world.

General hurling of insults with anyone who disagrees with him....

...wait insults incoming,

And now authoritative waxing poetically on Airbus...

Yawn....again.

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Listen. I and most people dont give a flying fxxx about your personal opinions. Right or wrong. This is not a show about you.

Does anyone have good info on the latest plans for the A380. Thats what this thread is actually about.
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Old 20th May 2012, 17:50
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Filion is so smart he couldn't even get hired at a Major in the states. But he knows everything, just ask him.

On to the topic, word is A-330-300s are coming instead of the A-380s until a permanent fix rears its ugly head. Maybe early 2014.

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Old 21st May 2012, 03:55
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Wonder if Airbus will send the currently undelivered "weak-wing" 380's back through the factory for a refit, or deliver them as is....seems another airline here in the Gulf has also declined delivery until the permanent fix is incorporated into the assembly line process...makes sense to me...but seeing as they haven't even actually fabricated the new and improved rib-foot yet..might be a while...

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Old 21st May 2012, 04:45
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I think it going to catch on that most airlines are going to refuse them until the permanent fix is done.
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Old 21st May 2012, 04:50
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@Fatbus..yah I suspect you're probably right...
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Old 21st May 2012, 06:52
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Airbus has finally officially announced that the 380 will indeed only be delivered with the "factory fitted" fixed wings in 2014...

Announced in latest Flight International...
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Old 21st May 2012, 07:40
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If it is "2013" in Airbus-years, what is that in the real world?
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Old 21st May 2012, 07:54
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Not too long to go Ex380. You'll be in the LHS of the 'super' in about 4 years....
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Old 21st May 2012, 08:00
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Originally Posted by Dropp
If it is "2013" in Airbus-years, what is that in the real world?
Probably remarkably similar to Boeing years

Remember that Dreamliner thingy
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Originally Posted by springbok
Airbus has finally officially announced that the 380 will indeed only be delivered with the "factory fitted" fixed wings in 2014...
I imagine so - for those that haven't had any wings fitted yet of course! But I imagine there are several already on the production line with fitted wings that need the fix, hence after the six or seven week fix-time will be up for delivery!!
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