arab youth and the american accent
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But arabs have always spoken english with their own accent, this american thing is maybe 20 years old at the most, are you telling me everything in arab countries is now in american english or they dont have brains to discern they needent speak in that manner?
Their parents and grandparents are not speaking american, at home they speak in arabic unlike those in subcontinent who actually communicate in english even at home in many cases despite english not being their mother atongue.
So few hours of school and TV/movies are going to dictate terms to them now? I bet not all teachers there are american, didnt happen in many other parts of the world, check out the last sentence in Pool's post, says it all.
You can even speak French minus the exaggerted native accent, despite learning it in institutes run by native French teachers.
No the youtube one is not neutral, never heard polished south asians speak english?
Their parents and grandparents are not speaking american, at home they speak in arabic unlike those in subcontinent who actually communicate in english even at home in many cases despite english not being their mother atongue.
So few hours of school and TV/movies are going to dictate terms to them now? I bet not all teachers there are american, didnt happen in many other parts of the world, check out the last sentence in Pool's post, says it all.
You can even speak French minus the exaggerted native accent, despite learning it in institutes run by native French teachers.
No the youtube one is not neutral, never heard polished south asians speak english?
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Originally Posted by newscaster
We have an american school in Pakistan too, I have yet to meet people who speak american accent english after studying there since childhood under US teachers influence, they my say erb instead of herb but thats it.
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No one is Pak speaks in american English, or any native English speaking country accent forunately, unless born or raised in that country, those that havent and do so are ridiculed as phonies.
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@newscaster
YouTube - ‪karan thapar vs ram jethmalani‬‏
YouTube - ‪Benazir Bhutto‬‏
Is in my opinion 3 polished south Asian people speaking and yet in you have a native (queens English) person listen he will say it has an accent.
I sense the dislike for American English (not the queens) stems from the current situation in the your present location. Would recommend that you dig below the surface of a persons accent and respect that more than
Till then enjoy this to lighten up the mood
YouTube - ‪Russel Peters On Pakistanis (Accent changes and how they got seperated from India)‬‏
YouTube - ‪karan thapar vs ram jethmalani‬‏
YouTube - ‪Benazir Bhutto‬‏
Is in my opinion 3 polished south Asian people speaking and yet in you have a native (queens English) person listen he will say it has an accent.
I sense the dislike for American English (not the queens) stems from the current situation in the your present location. Would recommend that you dig below the surface of a persons accent and respect that more than
Till then enjoy this to lighten up the mood
YouTube - ‪Russel Peters On Pakistanis (Accent changes and how they got seperated from India)‬‏
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exactly,,and the mod allowed it to be posted here,,and deleted my post long ago regarding qatar airways
thats why i said seem he got lots spare time
pinpoint Laker...n tell you what..wait a few more posts and you will see racism starting to show up here
thats why i said seem he got lots spare time
pinpoint Laker...n tell you what..wait a few more posts and you will see racism starting to show up here
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I sense the dislike for American English (not the queens) stems from the current situation in the your present location. Would recommend that you dig below the surface of a persons accent and respect that more than
Till then enjoy this to lighten up the mood
Till then enjoy this to lighten up the mood
No one?? Where do you come up with this stuff? I've met many Pakistanis who speak with an American accent because they've been studying at an American school or with an English accent because they go to a British school or have been taught British English.
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Considering it is an aviation forum, trust most people here will think nothing of it if the ATC chap comes on with a British, Aussie, South Asian, American accent as long as they get their communication correct.
Don't judge a book by it's cover and be comfortable with the accent you have.
Personally I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta with fake accented people 9000 miles away unless the said people are spewing venom against them. I think on the contrary if a person is aping / copying an accent merely due to an overflight of a Blackhawk above his house there are chances he is less of a threat to the US , than one who is preaching hate in his local language.
Considering it is an aviation forum, trust most people here will think nothing of it if the ATC chap comes on with a British, Aussie, South Asian, American accent as long as they get their communication correct.
Don't judge a book by it's cover and be comfortable with the accent you have.
Personally I don't think anyone has a personal vendetta with fake accented people 9000 miles away unless the said people are spewing venom against them. I think on the contrary if a person is aping / copying an accent merely due to an overflight of a Blackhawk above his house there are chances he is less of a threat to the US , than one who is preaching hate in his local language.
Wouldn't surprise me that some may act like something seen from USA television. The world has my personal USA apologies for dealing with the clueless garbage transmitted from our clueless left coast.
Had an "incident" a few years ago in the Caribbean. A "local" 20 something "youth" got belligerent with my Captain nearby. He thought it was 1 v 1 and a 50 lb advantage. He was quite surprised at the "sudden" appearance of the FO, which recalculated the equation as 2 v 1, and a 200 lbs disadvantage, not including the soon the be broken bottle of Carib in the FO's hands. (the "speed" advantage was also cut by the soft beach sand)
The USA MTV influence then appeared. The "local" started a 'gangsta' style act of lifting up his gangsta pants at each leg, along with his gangsta t-shirt. he seemed to forget that the act when done in Compton or Watts in LA generally results in showing a hidden weapon as a sign of force. At our Caribbean locale, it showed perfectly that he was unarmed and just a jabbering unarmed fool. Eventually he figured the odds out and left the scene, jabbering threats and insults of course
As an American, I won't aplogize for much, but will bow for forgiveness to the world for TV, Hollywood and McDonalds
Had an "incident" a few years ago in the Caribbean. A "local" 20 something "youth" got belligerent with my Captain nearby. He thought it was 1 v 1 and a 50 lb advantage. He was quite surprised at the "sudden" appearance of the FO, which recalculated the equation as 2 v 1, and a 200 lbs disadvantage, not including the soon the be broken bottle of Carib in the FO's hands. (the "speed" advantage was also cut by the soft beach sand)
The USA MTV influence then appeared. The "local" started a 'gangsta' style act of lifting up his gangsta pants at each leg, along with his gangsta t-shirt. he seemed to forget that the act when done in Compton or Watts in LA generally results in showing a hidden weapon as a sign of force. At our Caribbean locale, it showed perfectly that he was unarmed and just a jabbering unarmed fool. Eventually he figured the odds out and left the scene, jabbering threats and insults of course
As an American, I won't aplogize for much, but will bow for forgiveness to the world for TV, Hollywood and McDonalds