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Hi folks
Would be interested to know which branch of PJ all this refers to- all of them? A friend of mine has been approached in BAH- what's the story there- same horror stories as I've read on this thread?
Appreciate any insights!
Thx
Would be interested to know which branch of PJ all this refers to- all of them? A friend of mine has been approached in BAH- what's the story there- same horror stories as I've read on this thread?
Appreciate any insights!
Thx
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More Complicated Than It Sounds
Dear Marana,
Relations between the two companies were more complicated than what an outsider knows. I am not trying to defend AW but the truth is that PJ played the "Mr. Savier", and "Mr. Knows-it-all" on AW in the UAE. They told them stories about their capabilities and what would work and what would not in the area. Like any other foreign company/investor in the UAE, AW went by all that was said by PJ(a native UAE company with the wasta and power in the area). This turned out to be a mine field!
Relations between the two companies were more complicated than what an outsider knows. I am not trying to defend AW but the truth is that PJ played the "Mr. Savier", and "Mr. Knows-it-all" on AW in the UAE. They told them stories about their capabilities and what would work and what would not in the area. Like any other foreign company/investor in the UAE, AW went by all that was said by PJ(a native UAE company with the wasta and power in the area). This turned out to be a mine field!
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PJ
I flew with that pilot on an N registered aircraft, I was under the impression he had an FAA license, great guy too. He regretted joining them and leaving Bahrain.
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this company seems to be on the brink of collapse.
Blacklisted by jetaviation worldwide, owing 1.2M to embraer for their lineage maintneance, one legacy and one sovereign are back on the lease market, $200k is owed to the CJ2 owner, catering is no longer on credit, that's without even counting all unpaid salaries and per diems. Heard their crews haven't received their per diems for the past six months
3 captains won their cases at the labor board for breach of contract and word on the street is they were begging them to come back to work after terminating them...
Blacklisted by jetaviation worldwide, owing 1.2M to embraer for their lineage maintneance, one legacy and one sovereign are back on the lease market, $200k is owed to the CJ2 owner, catering is no longer on credit, that's without even counting all unpaid salaries and per diems. Heard their crews haven't received their per diems for the past six months
3 captains won their cases at the labor board for breach of contract and word on the street is they were begging them to come back to work after terminating them...
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Decisions Decisions
I think the top management are finaly listening to some of their trusted employees. Not all of the employees - just the ones who know what they are on about...
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That's good news. With all the pending lawsuits and unpaid bills, people on the other hand of the line will be happy to hear it
By the way, how come their N registered Sovereigns and CJ2 are still doing illegal charter work without anyone complaining?
By the way, how come their N registered Sovereigns and CJ2 are still doing illegal charter work without anyone complaining?
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Hey, I'm thinking to apply there at PJ, so I thought to drop a word, to know if it worth the move or what? My friend asked to do so,whom works there and said it is ok...
I'm new to the whole experience of working outside my country..
any inputs would be appreciated.. Many thanks in advance.
Falconsprit
I'm new to the whole experience of working outside my country..
any inputs would be appreciated.. Many thanks in advance.
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I am not Fat Clemenza
For those of you that tune in to the rants here on Prestige Jet...... please note that I am not Fat Clemenza and if I had a complaint about my current employer or former employer I would have way more class then to bash them on a public forum. That being said anyone that knows me knows I come to you face to face with either praise or insult, so if you are worried that I am Fat Clemenza and saying things about you or the company I am not and will not do it in this forum, you will know when I am upset or happy as I will let you know in person.
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Man get your ignorant cocky doodoo filled nose and give lessons elsewhere, I know most of your pilots and ground staff in that dumpster u call prestige to just just open dozens of pages about your illegal practices from flight operations to staff treatment. There's no need to work there to know it and it's a secret to no one in this forum or any other place.
And don't even talk about class, please don't, you're just giving the boot to be hit in the arse with. I did not open this 5 page thread about prestige sh!t, just try to wonder why people got so much to say
And don't even talk about class, please don't, you're just giving the boot to be hit in the arse with. I did not open this 5 page thread about prestige sh!t, just try to wonder why people got so much to say
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According to some Legacy staff
2 aircraft for lease
5 labour cases in court
1 lawsuit for aircraft reposession
9 grounded pilots
Bahrain base being shutdown, unpaid salaries for november in abu dhabi and bahrain
One investor supposedly should be the savior, otherwise word on the accouting street the company will go belly up in not too long...
Wish the best for everyone and to jump ship on time
2 aircraft for lease
5 labour cases in court
1 lawsuit for aircraft reposession
9 grounded pilots
Bahrain base being shutdown, unpaid salaries for november in abu dhabi and bahrain
One investor supposedly should be the savior, otherwise word on the accouting street the company will go belly up in not too long...
Wish the best for everyone and to jump ship on time
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Well Fat Clemenza if you know most of our pilots then you may even know me but tell you what.......... bring your boot on and see if you can put it there......cause I will meet you anytime anywhere in the middle east and give you your shot...... so that you know I am serious ask the pilots you do know if Juston Clement takes crap from punks like you. So dude bring it one of us will get our behind spanked but you will have it to do as I will not take your boorish crap!
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your brave little boy's pride got hurt? souds like a teenager trying to prove himself but again sonny, just try to wonder why such a page exists about ur prestigious sht...
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posting anonymously is cowardly, if you have something to say to someone then say it to their face. I do not think that you got my point. It was not about P J it was about if you work for someone you should have the guts and integrity to voice your oppinion to them directly not anonymously on a public forum. As for my first post it was done to clear the air that I am not you. the second post was in response to your childish comments and offering you the opportunity to discuss it in person. Semper Fi Juston Clement
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In case you think I work fr them, you must be out your mind. I did consider it about a year ago and thank God I never bought your DO's bs about fair treatment and rapid upgrades to bigger aircraft, and I know I'm not the only one in this case
Just read back the last couple of pages and try to figure if your employer gives a ****, but I guess your butt kissing attitude tells a lot. What are you trying to prove? That you're a decent employee who even when they treat u like sht?
Anyways, just try to be helpful to others and share any inside information you may have to others on this forum so they know before they sign or even apply...
Just read back the last couple of pages and try to figure if your employer gives a ****, but I guess your butt kissing attitude tells a lot. What are you trying to prove? That you're a decent employee who even when they treat u like sht?
Anyways, just try to be helpful to others and share any inside information you may have to others on this forum so they know before they sign or even apply...
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KC130 - if you are still working (and getting paid?) by PJ why don't you offer up the "good news"?
Is there an investor about to step in or is PJ doomed?
Given that Fat Clemenza has the info that the aircraft are up for sale/lease, the staff are unpaid, at least one base is closing etc... you'd have to admit the outlook looks bleak.
I'm all for employee loyalty but if the s**t is about to be flung all over the wall surely best to give advance warning? Obviously if you are outside the loop then you can't comment....
Is there an investor about to step in or is PJ doomed?
Given that Fat Clemenza has the info that the aircraft are up for sale/lease, the staff are unpaid, at least one base is closing etc... you'd have to admit the outlook looks bleak.
I'm all for employee loyalty but if the s**t is about to be flung all over the wall surely best to give advance warning? Obviously if you are outside the loop then you can't comment....