Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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Same for me... and it says that I have to fill it before submitting the application... any idea?
Any more ideas up there???
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Emirates flight deck recruitment
Hi everyone, I have been called for recruitment procces next month and I would like to know something about interviews, tests,etc..
I would appreciate very much any help.
Thanks.
I would appreciate very much any help.
Thanks.
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Hi gents....what is the likelyhood of EK reducing the total time required for a FO's position?? It appears that there is a fairly heavy recruitment drive? If so do you reakon that 3000 hrs total of which 2850 hours on Jet (B737) would be of any interest?? Around a thousand short of total time required but around a thousand hours excess to the min Jet time in excess of 55k
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Its was advertised in Flight global magazine since last thursday. Anyway you didnt miss much, mainly about how cool Dubai is to live and what a fabby airline it is.
But the bottom line is still the high requirements 4000 hrs min etc and they are not prepared to move on this.
The room was full of old mid to late 50 captains not interested in having to go into EK as an FO they where complaining about no DC.
Uni
But the bottom line is still the high requirements 4000 hrs min etc and they are not prepared to move on this.
The room was full of old mid to late 50 captains not interested in having to go into EK as an FO they where complaining about no DC.
Uni
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Thank-you for your reply,
I am an Air Force pilot with 5500 hrs and more than 2000 on Boeing.
There were rumours last year about not accepting pilots without civilian experience.
What is the situation now?
I am an Air Force pilot with 5500 hrs and more than 2000 on Boeing.
There were rumours last year about not accepting pilots without civilian experience.
What is the situation now?
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Fastman, that's a very interesting first post. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to what's so bad about Korean (who seem to be poaching a fair share of EK drivers) and what's so great about EK (who are desperate for pilots). BTW it's almost summer in Dubai, that frying pan is about to turn into a fire.
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Hi!
I don't think EK every had any problems with mil pilots.
Maybe you were confusing it with the Japan 767 contracts? THey used to count mil time as 0. Now you just need 1000 civvy jet, and the rest of your mil time will count (fixed wing, anyway).
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I don't think EK every had any problems with mil pilots.
Maybe you were confusing it with the Japan 767 contracts? THey used to count mil time as 0. Now you just need 1000 civvy jet, and the rest of your mil time will count (fixed wing, anyway).
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True, at EY you will earn around 15-20% more than EK as an F/O.
But at EK you will probably get to work 20-30% harder.
At EY you will probably get you Command in around 1/2 the time, than the EK F/O
It's a no brainer really.
But at EK you will probably get to work 20-30% harder.
At EY you will probably get you Command in around 1/2 the time, than the EK F/O
It's a no brainer really.
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How much you need to survive in Dubai?
Hi folks,
I am thinking about to accept a job offer from EK. A buch of doubts storming in my brain, and not so much info, at least true info, to decide.
I have a question to guys living already in Dubai: how much you spend to live in Dubai? How much it cost the live, montlhly, for a family with two kids?
Straight in answers will be really appreciated.
Nice landings
I am thinking about to accept a job offer from EK. A buch of doubts storming in my brain, and not so much info, at least true info, to decide.
I have a question to guys living already in Dubai: how much you spend to live in Dubai? How much it cost the live, montlhly, for a family with two kids?
Straight in answers will be really appreciated.
Nice landings
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In my days with overtime and bonus and right hand seat, I enjoyed a nice lifestyle. 2 kids on school where fee is covered by EK allowance, maid in the house. Thing is I didn,t save much. Didn,t matter because was early command those days.
You gotta understand that to my knowledge there are only 2 or 3 schools in Dubai that are covered by EK allowance! (you will understand they have a big waitinglist).The rest of the schools is big time money out of your own pocket. Not even to mention Schoolbus fee, 8000 Dhs per child.
No more overtime and bonus. Time to command now somewhere in the 7 to 10 years bracket. So al depend on your age, if you gotta start saving now for your pension, then I have to disapoint you. Its not gonna hapen.
Not much use to through around money figures, this is the all around story.
If you are still in your twenties with a young family then you will be fine, doesn,t really hurt to wait another 8 years or so to postpone savings and enjoy a decent live style. Otherwise I would have a hard think about it!
Good luck with your decision
In my days with overtime and bonus and right hand seat, I enjoyed a nice lifestyle. 2 kids on school where fee is covered by EK allowance, maid in the house. Thing is I didn,t save much. Didn,t matter because was early command those days.
You gotta understand that to my knowledge there are only 2 or 3 schools in Dubai that are covered by EK allowance! (you will understand they have a big waitinglist).The rest of the schools is big time money out of your own pocket. Not even to mention Schoolbus fee, 8000 Dhs per child.
No more overtime and bonus. Time to command now somewhere in the 7 to 10 years bracket. So al depend on your age, if you gotta start saving now for your pension, then I have to disapoint you. Its not gonna hapen.
Not much use to through around money figures, this is the all around story.
If you are still in your twenties with a young family then you will be fine, doesn,t really hurt to wait another 8 years or so to postpone savings and enjoy a decent live style. Otherwise I would have a hard think about it!
Good luck with your decision
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With 3 kids and my FO salary it is tough
Will be even worse for me once they start deducting the money from my salary for exceeding the DEWA cap
Not saving anything at the moment, just treading water to stay afloat
Hopefully we can keep afloat for the next 4-5 years (
) until the upgrade comes along.
Will be even worse for me once they start deducting the money from my salary for exceeding the DEWA capNot saving anything at the moment, just treading water to stay afloat
Hopefully we can keep afloat for the next 4-5 years (
) until the upgrade comes along.
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Thank you Sand, appreciate your post and gave me a good picture of the history. If I did not missundertand you, when you mean no way to save money, you mean I can expect to spend the whole salary in Dxb, no way to send some money back home country to pay some bills, for instance.
I was totally wrong: I make some calculations and I figure out something like..... 2500 euros (3300 USD nowadays) to live there, of course, with EK school allowance and no paying bills for the house, power, water..... Is it the school the big hole? Then you even need a very good financial status to work for EK, isn't it?
Thanks again!
I was totally wrong: I make some calculations and I figure out something like..... 2500 euros (3300 USD nowadays) to live there, of course, with EK school allowance and no paying bills for the house, power, water..... Is it the school the big hole? Then you even need a very good financial status to work for EK, isn't it?
Thanks again!
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Cost of Starting a new life in Dubai with the EK package in 2010
Initial / annual set up costs
Car - 10% deposit based on an average cost of Dhs 140,000 4x4 = Dhs 14,000
Furniture - Approx throughout the 1st year (assuming you already have some furniture) = Dhs 10,000
Garden - assuming you get a dead or sand garden = Dhs 4,000 (ranges from 2,000 - 16,000 depending on size)
Car insurance, approx for 1st timer in the UAE, 1st year = Dhs 5,000
Satellite TV, Internet, Gas setup, bottled water & other setup charges= Dhs 500
Kids extra curricular activity deposits/registrations for two activities (swimming, soccer ..etc) = Dhs 600
RTA registration for your car = Dhs 350
Rental car until you get your wheels = Dhs 4,500 (3 weeks @ Dhs 1500/week)
Pre paid SIM card registration x 2 = Dhs 330 (add Dhs 2000 deposit for post paid SIM cards)
Salik (toll) tag registration = Dhs 100
Maid Visa = Dhs 5080
School & PE Uniform for two kids = Dhs 1400
Total = 45960
Recurring monthly costs
Grocery - Dhs 4000
Petrol (assuming school run from the furtherst EK accomodation; DSO & Al Waha) - Dhs 450
School fees top up for two kids - Average Dhs 600 (based on Dhs 200 for non profit schools or 1000 for schools run for profit)
School bus for two kids - Dhs 700
Car loan - Dhs 1,800
2 Extra curricular activities for 2 kids - Dhs 550 (swimming Dhs 600 per term, football 450 per term, 3 terms a year)
Phone bill to call home - Dhs 750 (this is very conservative if you don't have Skype)
Internet - Dhs 250 (1 mbps line, unlimited)
Satellite or cable (one tier above the basic) - Dhs 350
Mobile phone charges for two - Dhs 150
Travel - Avergage of 8 ID90 Y class staff tickets per year (4 to the Europe & 4 to Far East) - Dhs 360
Gardener - Dhs 250
Maid - Dhs 1000 (averaged from Sri Lankan & Filipino)
Personal loan repayment (assuming you took a personal loan to pay for the set up cost of Dhs 45960 @ 5% over three years) = 1420
Total = Dhs 12,630 or USD 3450
Nursery fees for ONE child (not covered) - Dhs 1500 (Dhs 6000 per term)
Total for family with kids under school age = 14,130 or USD 3860
Remember that the figures are on the conservative side
Maid costs can replace cost of part time cleaners @ Dhs 30/hour for 4 hours a visit twice a week.
That is over half your salary and we have not considered the items below.
The following are not included and will increase your costs significantly:
A meal out with the wife and kids - Dhs 200 average for a family restaurant
A meal with the wife and a bottle of wine - Dhs 350
Movies - Dhs 120 per visit for 4 @ Dhs 30 per ticket
The odd coffee at Costa
Liqour license - Dhs 160
Liqour purchases - Beer x 24 cans Dhs 150-240, Wines Dhs 30-100 per bottle before 30% tax
Pharmacy medicine
Pressents for Christmas and birthdays
Birthday parties - Dhs 1000 - 3000 for 12 kids depending on extravagance
Christmas, Easter, Halloween and other festive expenses
Clothes
Concerts
Dubai Tennis Championship
Rugby 7's
Dubai World Cup
Overseas trip expenses (excluding staff travel tickets)
DEWA utility cap
E-Gate Card (immigration e-card)
UAE ID card Dhs 100 per year
Inflation of 10% per year based groceries only.
Initial / annual set up costs
Car - 10% deposit based on an average cost of Dhs 140,000 4x4 = Dhs 14,000
Furniture - Approx throughout the 1st year (assuming you already have some furniture) = Dhs 10,000
Garden - assuming you get a dead or sand garden = Dhs 4,000 (ranges from 2,000 - 16,000 depending on size)
Car insurance, approx for 1st timer in the UAE, 1st year = Dhs 5,000
Satellite TV, Internet, Gas setup, bottled water & other setup charges= Dhs 500
Kids extra curricular activity deposits/registrations for two activities (swimming, soccer ..etc) = Dhs 600
RTA registration for your car = Dhs 350
Rental car until you get your wheels = Dhs 4,500 (3 weeks @ Dhs 1500/week)
Pre paid SIM card registration x 2 = Dhs 330 (add Dhs 2000 deposit for post paid SIM cards)
Salik (toll) tag registration = Dhs 100
Maid Visa = Dhs 5080
School & PE Uniform for two kids = Dhs 1400
Total = 45960
Recurring monthly costs
Grocery - Dhs 4000
Petrol (assuming school run from the furtherst EK accomodation; DSO & Al Waha) - Dhs 450
School fees top up for two kids - Average Dhs 600 (based on Dhs 200 for non profit schools or 1000 for schools run for profit)
School bus for two kids - Dhs 700
Car loan - Dhs 1,800
2 Extra curricular activities for 2 kids - Dhs 550 (swimming Dhs 600 per term, football 450 per term, 3 terms a year)
Phone bill to call home - Dhs 750 (this is very conservative if you don't have Skype)
Internet - Dhs 250 (1 mbps line, unlimited)
Satellite or cable (one tier above the basic) - Dhs 350
Mobile phone charges for two - Dhs 150
Travel - Avergage of 8 ID90 Y class staff tickets per year (4 to the Europe & 4 to Far East) - Dhs 360
Gardener - Dhs 250
Maid - Dhs 1000 (averaged from Sri Lankan & Filipino)
Personal loan repayment (assuming you took a personal loan to pay for the set up cost of Dhs 45960 @ 5% over three years) = 1420
Total = Dhs 12,630 or USD 3450
Nursery fees for ONE child (not covered) - Dhs 1500 (Dhs 6000 per term)
Total for family with kids under school age = 14,130 or USD 3860
Remember that the figures are on the conservative side
Maid costs can replace cost of part time cleaners @ Dhs 30/hour for 4 hours a visit twice a week.
That is over half your salary and we have not considered the items below.
The following are not included and will increase your costs significantly:
A meal out with the wife and kids - Dhs 200 average for a family restaurant
A meal with the wife and a bottle of wine - Dhs 350
Movies - Dhs 120 per visit for 4 @ Dhs 30 per ticket
The odd coffee at Costa
Liqour license - Dhs 160
Liqour purchases - Beer x 24 cans Dhs 150-240, Wines Dhs 30-100 per bottle before 30% tax
Pharmacy medicine
Pressents for Christmas and birthdays
Birthday parties - Dhs 1000 - 3000 for 12 kids depending on extravagance
Christmas, Easter, Halloween and other festive expenses
Clothes
Concerts
Dubai Tennis Championship
Rugby 7's
Dubai World Cup
Overseas trip expenses (excluding staff travel tickets)
DEWA utility cap
E-Gate Card (immigration e-card)
UAE ID card Dhs 100 per year
Inflation of 10% per year based groceries only.
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wet vee two
You're either not living in Dubai or trying to wind things up. Judging by your join date, you're probably the latter.
Dhs 140,000 for a 4X4 is not extravagant. My car is certainly not the best in the street... and I only have ONE vehicle. You're such a cage rattler.
To the prospective new joiners, please do not assume it is cheap or easy to set up a home in Dubai. Everyone eventually gets settled but it will take some time to repay those personal loans (unless you come with lots of money). Almost every FO I spoke with agrees that the FO salary in EK is "just enough" to pay the bills and have a decent but not extravagant lifestyle. The real savings come when you upgrade.
Two factors have changed since T&C's at EK started to go downhill. Time to upgrade is no longer three years and inflation has eroded our purchasing power somewhat and will continue to do so without our annual step increases. Please take that into consideration with the possibility of living in long term temporary accomodation with your family, which is an entirely different can of worms discussed elsewhere in the forum. Villas are abundant in Dubai now but not many fit the asking price of EK.
I wish you all good luck and yes not everything here is 100% true but it is not 99% fabricated either. There are enough independant users posting stuff that your should definitely consider before making that commitment.
You're either not living in Dubai or trying to wind things up. Judging by your join date, you're probably the latter.
Dhs 140,000 for a 4X4 is not extravagant. My car is certainly not the best in the street... and I only have ONE vehicle. You're such a cage rattler.
To the prospective new joiners, please do not assume it is cheap or easy to set up a home in Dubai. Everyone eventually gets settled but it will take some time to repay those personal loans (unless you come with lots of money). Almost every FO I spoke with agrees that the FO salary in EK is "just enough" to pay the bills and have a decent but not extravagant lifestyle. The real savings come when you upgrade.
Two factors have changed since T&C's at EK started to go downhill. Time to upgrade is no longer three years and inflation has eroded our purchasing power somewhat and will continue to do so without our annual step increases. Please take that into consideration with the possibility of living in long term temporary accomodation with your family, which is an entirely different can of worms discussed elsewhere in the forum. Villas are abundant in Dubai now but not many fit the asking price of EK.
I wish you all good luck and yes not everything here is 100% true but it is not 99% fabricated either. There are enough independant users posting stuff that your should definitely consider before making that commitment.
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FlyingOW,
Ideally, you would want to make sure that "one in the oven" is delivered before you get here, because EK won't pay for the delivery. Likewise any other "pre-existing medical condition" you or your family might have on arrival.
Oh, and for goodness sake, no more "baking" for the first 6 months after you get here, because they won't pay for that either!
Otherwise, add a rather big number to "Fellowship of the drink's" comprehensive list.
SM
Ideally, you would want to make sure that "one in the oven" is delivered before you get here, because EK won't pay for the delivery. Likewise any other "pre-existing medical condition" you or your family might have on arrival.
Oh, and for goodness sake, no more "baking" for the first 6 months after you get here, because they won't pay for that either!
Otherwise, add a rather big number to "Fellowship of the drink's" comprehensive list.
SM