Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)
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EK job offer
Hey EK folks...
I just got back from Dubai yesterday and was told by one of my references that they've already been contacted regarding the reference check. I know it sounds good but I don't want to get my hopes up. Does the fact that they are checking equate to a job offer. Has anyone before had their references checked and not been offered the job??
Not sure what to make of it. Do they do reference checks on everyone or just the ones they are going to offer a job to??
I hope you all can shed some light for me.
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LAX
I just got back from Dubai yesterday and was told by one of my references that they've already been contacted regarding the reference check. I know it sounds good but I don't want to get my hopes up. Does the fact that they are checking equate to a job offer. Has anyone before had their references checked and not been offered the job??
Not sure what to make of it. Do they do reference checks on everyone or just the ones they are going to offer a job to??
I hope you all can shed some light for me.
Thanks,
LAX
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No probs with accomodation. However the rest of these mobs will jump up and complain.. They have mastered the art of crying woof and complaining about everything and anything Emirates offers them. I.E accomodation, yet they continue to work for the airline. Ring the airline directly if you want a confirmed answer and speak with accomodation. You might be waiting for your call to be answered for a while, but this is due to people like "rat poison" who interogate the admin staff for hours on how to get the toilet water to turn blue...
Falcon, Accomodation is Great.. Your facilities are provided for you and the best thing about it, IT DOESNT COST YOU ANYTHING...
Enjoy
No probs with accomodation. However the rest of these mobs will jump up and complain.. They have mastered the art of crying woof and complaining about everything and anything Emirates offers them. I.E accomodation, yet they continue to work for the airline. Ring the airline directly if you want a confirmed answer and speak with accomodation. You might be waiting for your call to be answered for a while, but this is due to people like "rat poison" who interogate the admin staff for hours on how to get the toilet water to turn blue...
Falcon, Accomodation is Great.. Your facilities are provided for you and the best thing about it, IT DOESNT COST YOU ANYTHING...
Enjoy
I'm glad accommodation has worked out for you. I take it that you are fairly new here. Before you jump on other guys about their complaints, I suggest you acquaint yourself with their situation. The reality is that accommodation has been a crap shoot. Some guys end up with nice places, others not so nice. Unfortunately, if you are part of the latter group, you have very few options. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who has accepted a job, moved half way around the world and now is dumped in a place that they do not like.
To be fair, to put people in decent accommodations in the current housing market while trying to maintain some semblance of cost control is difficult at best. Where you live is a very personal thing and there is very little in the way of choice for new guys here. I joined 11 years ago and was put into a dump. I requested a change - sorry, no dice. 9 years later, after spending a small fortune of my own money on fixing up our place, we were finally moved. I quite like my place now and my general feeling is that most guys are pretty happy with where they end up but if you are one of those who are not, it's going to be pretty hard to be upbeat about the rest of the package.
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Regarding the per diem thing...I would much rather have it the way it is now. Been there and done that doing it the other way...getting $1.55/hr. Got to wait a month to get it in your check (and all you usually end up with is $200 for the month). You spend way more than that on the credit card etc etc.
I get $50...that's what I spend (most times, even come home with some $$$). It's a beautiful thing. Most places have more economical restaurant choices, and you still save money over the hotel and their discount.
Hope it never changes.
I get $50...that's what I spend (most times, even come home with some $$$). It's a beautiful thing. Most places have more economical restaurant choices, and you still save money over the hotel and their discount.
Hope it never changes.
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Can't seem to find much. I did some searches and only a few threads came up. Does anybody have any recent gouge? I go in 5 weeks and am wondering what I should be studying and brushing up on. Many thanks to anyone who can shed some light on the interview process and what I should be studying!
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Emirates interview
Hi, I have been recently invited for an interview with Emirates and would like to have as much information on its contents, sim profile, medical, what is on the psicometric, written test, etc and as much and many tips you can provide me with since this is an interview I have been waiting for a long time. Thank you people.
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Gillegan,
Life is not always fair. We all want to have the best of everything but it JUST doesnt turn out that way. What more would you like with regard to free accomodation?. Yes, People do travel a long distance to work for Emirates, but they can't expect to be living in a 5 star villa/apartment. If you opted to live in Company accomodation, then you need to bite your tongue and appreciate that its all free. Their is the option of taking your housing allowance and choosing a place that tickles your fancy. If you dont like it, then perhaps you should just leave??????.
Life is not always fair. We all want to have the best of everything but it JUST doesnt turn out that way. What more would you like with regard to free accomodation?. Yes, People do travel a long distance to work for Emirates, but they can't expect to be living in a 5 star villa/apartment. If you opted to live in Company accomodation, then you need to bite your tongue and appreciate that its all free. Their is the option of taking your housing allowance and choosing a place that tickles your fancy. If you dont like it, then perhaps you should just leave??????.
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I tried to find the one and only correct answer but I could not find it:
What accomodation do you get as a married F/O? Appartement? House? Tent?
Is it still in DXB or is it all out at Silicon Valley?
Is there still a ban for people joining fom QR?
Thanks
What accomodation do you get as a married F/O? Appartement? House? Tent?
Is it still in DXB or is it all out at Silicon Valley?
Is there still a ban for people joining fom QR?
Thanks
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Gillegan,
Life is not always fair. We all want to have the best of everything but it JUST doesnt turn out that way. What more would you like with regard to free accomodation?. Yes, People do travel a long distance to work for Emirates, but they can't expect to be living in a 5 star villa/apartment. If you opted to live in Company accomodation, then you need to bite your tongue and appreciate that its all free. Their is the option of taking your housing allowance and choosing a place that tickles your fancy. If you dont like it, then perhaps you should just leave??????.
Life is not always fair. We all want to have the best of everything but it JUST doesnt turn out that way. What more would you like with regard to free accomodation?. Yes, People do travel a long distance to work for Emirates, but they can't expect to be living in a 5 star villa/apartment. If you opted to live in Company accomodation, then you need to bite your tongue and appreciate that its all free. Their is the option of taking your housing allowance and choosing a place that tickles your fancy. If you dont like it, then perhaps you should just leave??????.
I suggest that you go back and read my post - I was not complaining about the accommodation - in fact I was trying to put it into perspective. What I did say was that some people have legitimate complaints and you would do well to try to understand the issues before sounding off.
As far as free accommodation - I don't think so. The accommodation constitutes a part of our terms and conditions for which we are expected to carry out our duties in the manner to which we have been contracted. Were I to take your suggestion to leave, I would first compare my package here with any others that I might be offerred. I would be remiss if I failed to include the value of my accommodations in that comparison.
Now to your truly tired and worn out exhortaion to leave. Spare us the kool-aid soaked drivel. There are things that are good about EK and things that are not so good. I would argue that it's more important for prospective EK pilots to fully understand the negative aspects of this job before they make a decision than to find out later. What might not be important to you might be very important to another pilot. If someone comes here only to end up miserable, they are not doing anyone (you, me, them or EK) any favours.
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Hello everyone, I've read almost every thread on this subject, and at the end a lot of questions have being answered, thank's to all of you who give honest and straight forward information. At the time it si very diffucult for us who are awaiting to go for the Emirates Interview. Ofcourse living in Dubai might be expensive but it all depends of your "life style" for some it's impossible to live there for others might be the almost perfect place so, my best bet is go there do your best and find out for your self, and if your nerves let you...enjoy it! good luck for all of us looking for one more step forward on our aviation carreers. See you in Dubai!!
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I applied for a flight deck job with Emirates over a year ago. I have over 7300 TT which over 2300 are in corporate jets. Any idea why they haven't called, or is there any way I can speak with some at Emirates?
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
ernestkgann,
yes, I work for them.
2010 EK should have 100 airplanes, lets say 8 crews per airplane gives you about 1600+ pilots.
Lets say they need 800 captains and they have 400 now, they have to upgrade 400 F/O's ahead of you.
3 Years ago it was down to 3 years of even shorter (fast track sometimes 18 month) to command but it is slowing down now.
Was just told that they need event. direct entry captains, so if you are not on the fast track it will take a while to get a command.
But its a taxfee job and if you and your wife like Dubai its a great life, just if you don't like Dubai it can be a problem.
yes, I work for them.
2010 EK should have 100 airplanes, lets say 8 crews per airplane gives you about 1600+ pilots.
Lets say they need 800 captains and they have 400 now, they have to upgrade 400 F/O's ahead of you.
3 Years ago it was down to 3 years of even shorter (fast track sometimes 18 month) to command but it is slowing down now.
Was just told that they need event. direct entry captains, so if you are not on the fast track it will take a while to get a command.
But its a taxfee job and if you and your wife like Dubai its a great life, just if you don't like Dubai it can be a problem.
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Problem is Emirates doesn't believe you are an experienced pilot unless you've flown something heavier than 55ton. Which we all know is a complete truck load of S...t
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Thanks, I could not agree more with you, I guess the people in charge of calling you are not pilots but some kind of business adminstrators that do not know jack about avaiation, but are doing what they are told to do, have a great one and fly safe.
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Boys, lets not throw our toys out of the cot before we even get an interview. Bad form you know.
My take on the 55ton issue is that there is no issue, not unless you're applying as a DEC of course. If you want to apply as a DEC and don't have command above 55ton then, quite frankly, who has displayed the greater arrogance, yourself or Emirates? Spare a thought for the well qualified EK F/O's that have significantly more time than someone with 7300tt and 2300 on biz jets (which I assume to be your coup d'etat) and are patiently waiting their command.
Caynine, a line has to be drawn somewhere and I suspect that 55ton covers most medium/heavy jets. Ironically the same jets that at least have the capability to operate (or get close to) a similar route structure to EK's. The only load of manure that I have ever seen, tends to originate from F/O's with light jet time expressing frustration at having to "wait" 3 yrs for a command. Shortly followed by a shot to the foot identifying their shallower depth of knowledge.
My take on the 55ton issue is that there is no issue, not unless you're applying as a DEC of course. If you want to apply as a DEC and don't have command above 55ton then, quite frankly, who has displayed the greater arrogance, yourself or Emirates? Spare a thought for the well qualified EK F/O's that have significantly more time than someone with 7300tt and 2300 on biz jets (which I assume to be your coup d'etat) and are patiently waiting their command.
Caynine, a line has to be drawn somewhere and I suspect that 55ton covers most medium/heavy jets. Ironically the same jets that at least have the capability to operate (or get close to) a similar route structure to EK's. The only load of manure that I have ever seen, tends to originate from F/O's with light jet time expressing frustration at having to "wait" 3 yrs for a command. Shortly followed by a shot to the foot identifying their shallower depth of knowledge.
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Spoken like a true manager.
The 55 t policy for DEC is understandable, the accelerated command policy thin on logic, and no matter what you say AAR will not let the guys at recruiting interview pilots for FO positions unless they have it.... unwritten but true.
Trying the "boo hoo" approach (as you've so professionally tried to do), to this one is inappropriate as most accepted that....( say it again...) we would wait for the three years, and guess what? We have... but it has changed yet again.
Still hear that Kenworth idling in the background!
The 55 t policy for DEC is understandable, the accelerated command policy thin on logic, and no matter what you say AAR will not let the guys at recruiting interview pilots for FO positions unless they have it.... unwritten but true.
Trying the "boo hoo" approach (as you've so professionally tried to do), to this one is inappropriate as most accepted that....( say it again...) we would wait for the three years, and guess what? We have... but it has changed yet again.
Still hear that Kenworth idling in the background!
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Ahh! The old "You must be a manager" approach. Can't see anything in my post leading to that deduction.
If AAR doesn't allow anyone in (including F/O's) without 55t time, someone is telling porkies. I fly with them on a regular basis, some are good, some are brilliant, and others just don't know what they don't know but still want their command yesterday.
As for the accelerated command policy being thin on logic, lets just say that all of our promotion policies are thin on logic. There are a lot of good guys in the company with and without accelerated command requirements waiting for a command. Some just wait patiently whilst others bitch about it, but those considered for acceleration having a little whinge in the meantime get no sympathy from me (or many others) as its blatant hypocrisy to complain about your time to command whilst there are other "qualified/capable" pilots ahead of you in seniority. The sympathy is even more difficult to find when the individual is unable to demonstrate that his experience is meaningful.
If AAR doesn't allow anyone in (including F/O's) without 55t time, someone is telling porkies. I fly with them on a regular basis, some are good, some are brilliant, and others just don't know what they don't know but still want their command yesterday.
As for the accelerated command policy being thin on logic, lets just say that all of our promotion policies are thin on logic. There are a lot of good guys in the company with and without accelerated command requirements waiting for a command. Some just wait patiently whilst others bitch about it, but those considered for acceleration having a little whinge in the meantime get no sympathy from me (or many others) as its blatant hypocrisy to complain about your time to command whilst there are other "qualified/capable" pilots ahead of you in seniority. The sympathy is even more difficult to find when the individual is unable to demonstrate that his experience is meaningful.