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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 28th Jun 2018, 06:39
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Originally Posted by IHEK View Post
Iíve been at the company two years now and the amount of changes in my terms and conditions for the worst, has dramatically affected my opinion of Emirates.

Iím looking at other options now and even a career change because theyíve ruined flying for me so much.

The rumours are true, the company is run by FEAR and INTIMIDATION. Not a safe environment to be operating aeroplanes at max hours per month. The pilots are scared of th management.

We will be the first operator to crash a 380, not because we have the greatest number of 380ís but because of the above.

I would really think twice about coming to Emirates and Iím open to anyone contacting me for other information if you need it.

Sorry to be so negative but itís the truth and if I was looking at applying I would want everyone to be honest with me.

The moral on the line is super low and the work environment is depressing. A cabin crew member committed suicide because of the changes theyíve made to there contracts. A pilot maybe next.
So two years ago you read all the stuff on here and did not believe it? Got yourself into a 5 year bond and thought... they must be making the stuff on PPRuNe up.... ?
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 07:17
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Hope he used a VPN to make that post....

I don't disagree that a bad event is getting likelier by the day but to put it so absolutely while still flying for them.... got balls or crazy from lack of sleep... or both
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 07:19
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post

So two years ago you read all the stuff on here and did not believe it? Got yourself into a 5 year bond and thought... they must be making the stuff on PPRuNe up.... ?
SOPS,

Anyone who currently works, or has worked for EK will quickly realize that EK hires globally. At any point in time there will be an airline ceasing operations and its pilots will be looking for work, actually they have been doing this since even before the Ansett days. They also prey on pilots wanting to fly the "biggest and best" in the industry and therefore giving little regard for the lifestyle it affords. It is difficult for those to really know what happens at EK, most applicants see the factuality's of the big shiny airplane, chauffeur drive to work, villa, free power, water and gas to name a few. However, you don't understand the reality until after a couple years pass then you hear the story that IHEK is telling and you hear it a lot these days. The reality of this place has been posted for years and most people will only give a slim regard for what is written here therefor they will keep coming. Hats off to EK, they really don't want you to stay more than 7 - 10 years anyway, you're too old, becoming a health cost and a salary expense. We all know that the reality here is that you will work very hard, be fatigued and walk a very fine line all the while knowing that fate can play a very large role to being terminated even for a relatively small reason.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 08:19
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redbaron60

Some guys seem to think that as long as they have a few hours, that will suffice to fly heavies in the LHS from day 1. The EK route structure is varied and can be very challenging - B777 over the N Pole in winter with little diversionary a/fields in case of some citical emergency, just 1 example. That's why EK have a minimum requirement for LHS.

Maybe you should all ask yourselves what experience Flag Carriers need for LHS on heavies, and see how relatively low the experience requirements set by EK are.

I would not wish to be a pax with 2 low-level experience guys/girls up the front.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 11:28
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I donít have an opinion on minimum requirements for DEC, but not so long ago 1000 hrs wide body was not required.

All the DECís that came then seems to have done quite well...
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 11:32
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Originally Posted by gehenna View Post


I would not wish to be a pax with 2 low-level experience guys/girls up the front.
Better not fly EK then as the turbo prop FO joiners will be upgrading soon enough!!!
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 13:05
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Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck View Post
Better not fly EK then as the turbo prop FO joiners will be upgrading soon enough!!!
They have Starred Captains, quite capable of bringing this Tp pilots up to the Ek high Standards. Right ?
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 13:53
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw View Post
SOPS,

Anyone who currently works, or has worked for EK will quickly realize that EK hires globally. At any point in time there will be an airline ceasing operations and its pilots will be looking for work, actually they have been doing this since even before the Ansett days. They also prey on pilots wanting to fly the "biggest and best" in the industry and therefore giving little regard for the lifestyle it affords. It is difficult for those to really know what happens at EK, most applicants see the factuality's of the big shiny airplane, chauffeur drive to work, villa, free power, water and gas to name a few. However, you don't understand the reality until after a couple years pass then you hear the story that IHEK is telling and you hear it a lot these days. The reality of this place has been posted for years and most people will only give a slim regard for what is written here therefor they will keep coming. Hats off to EK, they really don't want you to stay more than 7 - 10 years anyway, you're too old, becoming a health cost and a salary expense. We all know that the reality here is that you will work very hard, be fatigued and walk a very fine line all the while knowing that fate can play a very large role to being terminated even for a relatively small reason.
Good point, Outlaw. Cant argue with that.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 14:33
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Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck View Post
Better not fly EK then as the turbo prop FO joiners will be upgrading soon enough!!!

Ooh look out for the scary Turbo prop drivers.....

I was waiting for a derogatory comment to surface at some point.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 20:36
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Originally Posted by gehenna View Post
redbaron60

Some guys seem to think that as long as they have a few hours, that will suffice to fly heavies in the LHS from day 1. The EK route structure is varied and can be very challenging - B777 over the N Pole in winter with little diversionary a/fields in case of some citical emergency, just 1 example. That's why EK have a minimum requirement for LHS.

Maybe you should all ask yourselves what experience Flag Carriers need for LHS on heavies, and see how relatively low the experience requirements set by EK are.

I would not wish to be a pax with 2 low-level experience guys/girls up the front.
Gehenna

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do you think I am inexperienced? I am a little bit over 20000hrs with 17000 on B737. Not to brag, but I think I can handle it. With an humble attitude, but can handle it. I only wanted to know if the wide body experience was a must.
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 21:42
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Originally Posted by aviation_enthus View Post



Ooh look out for the scary Turbo prop drivers.....

I was waiting for a derogatory comment to surface at some point.
so you disagree that a turbo prop FO who upgrades after 3 years at EK is not experienced? Not sure if the paying pax would agree with you!!
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Old 29th Jun 2018, 01:05
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Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck View Post
so you disagree that a turbo prop FO who upgrades after 3 years at EK is not experienced? Not sure if the paying pax would agree with you!!
I donít think the paying pax will know any better to be honest. When is the last time you heard pax complaining Ďthe pilots arenít experienced enough!í Except for some obvious pilot errors (Air Asia/Lion Air) I donít think most people would know the difference.

Anyway my point is, just because a former TP driver only has 3-4 years on a jet doesnít mean their prior experience doesnít count as well. Iíll ask you this question: what is the difference between a TP driver and a former Ryanair/Easyjet etc F/O that joined EK with 3000 hours?

Every single upgrade sim support Iíve done in the last year was with these type of guys/girls. No former command time, all joined as F/Oís coming off a 737/757/767/A320. Nothing wrong with them!

The vast majority of former TP drivers Iíve meet had prior commands, some had Check/Training experience. Hours vary from 4000-17000 hours.

I would argue the attitude and personal attributes of these guys will set them up for a command just as well as anyone else currently upgrading. If you are willing to put the work in and learn about the EK route structure/threats/WX variations/aircraft systems/etc, this is what will set you up better than just having Ďjet timeí.
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Old 29th Jun 2018, 02:20
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Of course the turbo prop guys wont have any more problem getting through a command course than a barbie jet pilot. All pilots have to meet the same standard to pass regardless of their background .
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Old 29th Jun 2018, 04:03
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That's is it in a nutshell-once the minimum experience requirements are met it is attitude and application. If the standard is met then the Upgrade will be achieved. My experience here is most of the TP background pilots are not P2F so tend to have more appreciation/better attitude in general-kudos to them for making the most of the opportunity. Just like flying - its all about Attitude.
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Old 7th Jul 2018, 11:28
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Originally Posted by 7oodaz View Post
guys anyone else having assessment on 23rd of July. ? if so pm me so we can share stuff .
Me too, message sent.
Thank you
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Old 8th Jul 2018, 07:11
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EK Health Insurance

Good day Gentlemen,

can someone in EK give me further info in regards to health insurance for family. Is it automatically covered by EK or the sponsorship we give our family or we have to buy a premium with EK. Does it cover worldwide or just UAE and home country? Thank you for the info.
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Old 8th Jul 2018, 14:08
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This thread will benefit those chaps like myself who considers EK as a great airline and viable option but unsure of how's the living conditions in Dubai since nightstopping Dubai in Intercontinental or Sheraton won't help much to experience local lifestyle as expat...
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 02:57
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This should help you make a decision about the package:

Dubai and Abu Dhabi, the region's top sought-after destinations for job seekers, are the 20th and 23rd most expensive cities in the world for expatriates, a new global cost of living survey reveals.

While Dubai moved up one spot compared to last year's index, Abu Dhabi jumped two places on the back of higher costs for housing, goods and services, according to the latest Cost of Living survey by Mercer, the human resources consultancy.



https://m.khaleejtimes.com/business/...tliest-cities-
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 21:00
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Cheaper than London then.
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 21:15
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Describe how the cost of living matters when you have a free house, free electricity, free water, free chauffered transport to and from work, medical insurance, next-to-free airline travel and the bulk of your children's school fees payed for you.
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