Iran: UAE evacuation plan.
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I know the arab countries fear Iran more than hate Israel. I don't know if that is the reason why Iran threatens with bombing Gulf states if they are attacked.
Gulf states can suffer the consequences of a raid over Bushehr. Besides, I don't think the israelis can't succeed in such an attack even with the passive help of the arabs.
I hope someone knows how to defuse this problem before it blows and we have to evacuate in a hurry
Gulf states can suffer the consequences of a raid over Bushehr. Besides, I don't think the israelis can't succeed in such an attack even with the passive help of the arabs.
I hope someone knows how to defuse this problem before it blows and we have to evacuate in a hurry
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There is hope
The Palestinians are in the process to look for support in the UN to declare a Palestinian state. That will start a new dynamic for sure.
Hope there are enough states that will support their initiative.
Hope there are enough states that will support their initiative.
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If the israelis refuse to form the Palestinian estate and keep on with the settlements that could well happen.
The israeli lobbies everywhere would have to work real hard to avoid it.
I think they are making a lot of mistakes, the israelis. They can't expect the palestinians to forget their aspirations and their rights, nor they can genocide them. Seems as if they have decided for apartheid. But we all know how apartheid ended in South Africa. I don't think the israelis would like to have the equivalent to Mandela as Israel's president in the year 2030.
The power of the Israeli lobby is causing harm to Israel, instead of the opposite. But being so powerful, I doubt any significant western countries are going to recognise a unilaterally declared Palestinian state. It will have a cost for those lobbies, however, and is a good move on the part of the palestinians, I think. And they can always try again in the future.
The question is what will happen with Iran and its nuclear ambitions. So far, instead of an air raid, a virus and selective assassinations are delaying their program. But will they attack with the F-22s?
Seems very likely to me, and for sure the iranians are preparing for it. If they can't avoid the attacks due to the israeli air superiority, they can always take hostages or even attack the gulf states in retaliation.
How nice!
The israeli lobbies everywhere would have to work real hard to avoid it.
I think they are making a lot of mistakes, the israelis. They can't expect the palestinians to forget their aspirations and their rights, nor they can genocide them. Seems as if they have decided for apartheid. But we all know how apartheid ended in South Africa. I don't think the israelis would like to have the equivalent to Mandela as Israel's president in the year 2030.
The power of the Israeli lobby is causing harm to Israel, instead of the opposite. But being so powerful, I doubt any significant western countries are going to recognise a unilaterally declared Palestinian state. It will have a cost for those lobbies, however, and is a good move on the part of the palestinians, I think. And they can always try again in the future.
The question is what will happen with Iran and its nuclear ambitions. So far, instead of an air raid, a virus and selective assassinations are delaying their program. But will they attack with the F-22s?
Seems very likely to me, and for sure the iranians are preparing for it. If they can't avoid the attacks due to the israeli air superiority, they can always take hostages or even attack the gulf states in retaliation.
How nice!
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Remember Fall of the Shah 1979
I was working in Saudi Arabia when the !!!!! hit the fan in Iran in '79. I witnessed many American and UK expats lose all their worldly goods in their desperate escape, some taking only what they stood in. After that, I divested significant possessions and lived out of one hand carried bag.
The Gulf area is unstable, and there are many tensions more akin to what is happening in Tunisia - i.e. nothing to do with Israel, but due to repressive autocratic Western-friendly regimes. The Gulf cannot function without low-cost labour from South Asia - many of whom live in squalor among the gaudy towers of Dubai.
Be careful, be prudent. It is just a matter of time before unpredictable unrest will return.
The Gulf area is unstable, and there are many tensions more akin to what is happening in Tunisia - i.e. nothing to do with Israel, but due to repressive autocratic Western-friendly regimes. The Gulf cannot function without low-cost labour from South Asia - many of whom live in squalor among the gaudy towers of Dubai.
Be careful, be prudent. It is just a matter of time before unpredictable unrest will return.
Most of these reply's are off topic. 
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Lessons from Libya ......
1. Most evacuation plans are activated too late and fall down because of comms failures and /or airport / port congestion.
2. Best plan is to go early on any available commercial flight. Well in advance on serious trouble brewing up. But clairvoyance ain't easy....
3. When you miss that chance, consider just staying at home and sitting it out. Most serious unsafe situations occur out on the streets and don't last more than a few days.
4. From the UAE if the airports are clogged you've got 2 road options - the easy one into Oman but the road to Salalah is arguably the world's longest cul-de-sac.
The hard one is via KSA - but they'll probably want visas and all sorts of car paperwork and by the time they decide to throw open the borders they'll be clogged too.
2. Best plan is to go early on any available commercial flight. Well in advance on serious trouble brewing up. But clairvoyance ain't easy....
3. When you miss that chance, consider just staying at home and sitting it out. Most serious unsafe situations occur out on the streets and don't last more than a few days.
4. From the UAE if the airports are clogged you've got 2 road options - the easy one into Oman but the road to Salalah is arguably the world's longest cul-de-sac.
The hard one is via KSA - but they'll probably want visas and all sorts of car paperwork and by the time they decide to throw open the borders they'll be clogged too.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to go with option 2 & 3.
If it does kick off , i'll send the family out early (option2) for their own safety. At the most, we should all know within a few weeks whether that was the right decision or not and if it's safe for them to come back. A fortnight's break is no big deal.
I'll stay (option 3) and start working my way through what has become a mini liquor store, built up over many years courtesy of duty free shops, MMI, A&E and illegal booze runs. To assist me, a visit each evening to Rattlesnakes to 'buy' a couple of like minded drinking partners to give me a hand, so to speak.
This will also ensure that whatever cash I did have invested in the UAE banks earning cock all interest, is now reinvested into a PEP. (Pissed Enlisted Prostitute) My self managed PEP is slightly different to the UK ones in that mine has bugger all to do with tax avoidance and focuses entirely on stock selection. Choosing tasty performing International stocks is half the fun while the other half is watching their 'performance' develop overnight. China is currently cheap to get into whilst most Russian stock is often overpriced. Kazakstan may offer the best of both Worlds with a few underated examples offering short term potential. A quick exit strategy may be required here due to higher risk potential. Whatever you end up picking, it's similar to many other 'investments' here in Dubai in that you're guaranteed to get screwed whatever you invest in. The only difference with this scheme is that you actually enjoy the experience. Excellent performing Funs may tempt you to invest in regular deposits but this should be avoided at all costs. Stock selection should be based entirely on cold hard economics and sentiment should never cum into it. Most investment vehicles perform better after a making a large deposit but this is not always guaranteed!
Now, who fancies meeting up at clock roundabout this Saturday, say 4pm? Remember to bring plenty of things to throw and don't forget a few flags to wave about.
Harry
Warning. 1) Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
2) Your 'investment' may go down as well as up.
3) Hopefully it will, quickly and often!
If it does kick off , i'll send the family out early (option2) for their own safety. At the most, we should all know within a few weeks whether that was the right decision or not and if it's safe for them to come back. A fortnight's break is no big deal.
I'll stay (option 3) and start working my way through what has become a mini liquor store, built up over many years courtesy of duty free shops, MMI, A&E and illegal booze runs. To assist me, a visit each evening to Rattlesnakes to 'buy' a couple of like minded drinking partners to give me a hand, so to speak.
This will also ensure that whatever cash I did have invested in the UAE banks earning cock all interest, is now reinvested into a PEP. (Pissed Enlisted Prostitute) My self managed PEP is slightly different to the UK ones in that mine has bugger all to do with tax avoidance and focuses entirely on stock selection. Choosing tasty performing International stocks is half the fun while the other half is watching their 'performance' develop overnight. China is currently cheap to get into whilst most Russian stock is often overpriced. Kazakstan may offer the best of both Worlds with a few underated examples offering short term potential. A quick exit strategy may be required here due to higher risk potential. Whatever you end up picking, it's similar to many other 'investments' here in Dubai in that you're guaranteed to get screwed whatever you invest in. The only difference with this scheme is that you actually enjoy the experience. Excellent performing Funs may tempt you to invest in regular deposits but this should be avoided at all costs. Stock selection should be based entirely on cold hard economics and sentiment should never cum into it. Most investment vehicles perform better after a making a large deposit but this is not always guaranteed!
Now, who fancies meeting up at clock roundabout this Saturday, say 4pm? Remember to bring plenty of things to throw and don't forget a few flags to wave about.
Harry
Warning. 1) Past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
2) Your 'investment' may go down as well as up.
3) Hopefully it will, quickly and often!
