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Old 18th Nov 2011, 19:03
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Marlim sill waiting to get to know how many cadets expect to graduate from your bach. It is a fast paced training then why is the entrance exam so simple that anyone can qualify. My friend tells me that the entrance to Alpha is a cake walk and does not reflect in any way the intense training one is put through. So, I am curious to know how many cadets will eventualy reach the final stage after investing huge amount of money.
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Base Training

Ok guys...Finally...The great news...Base Training has started...more news to come hopefully end of next week

I would probably post again when I have the License in-hand
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Go malirm go!

Don't forget us!!
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Marlim still waiting to know how many cadets expect to graduate from your batch. What is the success ratio? How many drop out at ground school and how many are removed at a later stage after investing huge amount of money. You can throw some light on the outcome of cadets from batch first and second. Your answer will help many future cadets to make their mind before joining Alpha.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 00:16
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@ malirm.

How is it that you are not able to get your pass ?
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@ Aakhan,

I would rather contact Alpha for such questions, as I don't really know about what's happening between batches in ground school...as far as my batch is concerned, all 100% signed the contracts with Air Arabia & are doing our final stage of MPL (Base Training), please research about the MPL/CPL differences...you can browse my previous posts instead of waiting

@ Captain.Weired,

Thanks...

More Good News to come for next week, 4 of us are done already...5 to go, I guess it'll take 2 more weeks

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Old 25th Dec 2011, 11:32
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I too think Malirm is misleading the innocent future cadets. Maybe he has been assured employment with Air Arabia. According to your previous posts you have mentioned that you joined in the second batch which started with 6 cadets and ended up with 2 as others failed to keep up. Is this good success ratio. You havent completed your training in these years which Alpha claim is completed in just eighteen months.
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Old 25th Dec 2011, 11:44
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@ LOLO

I understand all of that Granpa, but please don't even talk about AAA of Sharjah, you DON'T Know anything in there, flight line will be closed in Sharjah not because of GCAA, its because of the Airport, the airport is busy & is only less than 20 NM away from Dubai, this makes it really hard for the guys to fly without getting stressed & let almost over a Dozen to fly per day...etc. I can tell you that it is really CROWDED out there the smallest Jet is an A320 in the skies of UAE almost 90% of the time, you've got A330s, 340s, 380s, 777s & 737s flying all around the small Dubai Airspace !

The Flying was shifted to Australia, with AAPA in Wagga, already some cadets came back for MCC from there while others have left to Wagga, Batch 1 is doing the base training, while batch 2 & 3 are in the Type Rating...Another Batch is starting in Jan, I have spent 2.5 years being told I will be done in 12 months, where does that put me...don't just take revenge from AAA UAE because of AAG Philippines !

Now, please tell me, what is the hidden 99%...please tell me...delays (Aviation is full of delays...starting with Aircraft manufacturers )?

Guys, it is your soul decision to join or not join AAG, please wait for a couple of Batches to Graduate & work before you join...check the product at the end of the line...then decide

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Old 25th Dec 2011, 11:59
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@ aakhan

We started with 6, 1 has left to join later after struggling to shift his house & study in the same time, 1 have had difficulties with the ground school (but was done after 9 months), 1 have had Financial troubles as he suddenly (his family) lost all of their money somewhere, 2 have joined late & had to spend 7 more weeks to cover what the 2 of us had to cover (more ground school subjects).

Batch One were done in Oct 2009 from Ground School, we (the 2) were done from Ground School in Jan 2011, 7 of the 9 in Batch One accepted to fly in Clark, this made Alpha to come & ask us (batch 2) to cover the 2 empty slots, accordingly we became batch 1, while the other guys became batch 2

You guys should contact guys from the other batches...there's a big difference between the guy watching the match on TV & the guys who are PLAYING the match...
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Old 25th Dec 2011, 18:52
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Malirm you are doing an excellent job in supporting Alpha all the way. According to your earlier posts your batch of six was reduced to two as others failed to keep up. Now you are covering up by giving frivilous reasons. The ground school modules are same for everyone so why will you do extra subjects, everyone would make full financial arrangements before starting the training and nor would one shift house in the middle of their training. The reason is simple Alpha has got rid of them. Come out with facts and be honest. What is the success ratio.
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Old 25th Dec 2011, 22:27
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@ aakhan

It seems that whatever I say, it doesn't matter, anyways, I'll see where it'll go with you whether you like what I'm saying or not...I myself was going to dropout because of shifting problems too...Finally I found a house in Ajman, rented it for 12 months, but used it for 6 months only, then I had to leave to the Philippines & loose the other 6 months rent costs...about 2500 USD !!! would you like me to swear on alpha? I spent 3 months waiting for my MCC training...would you like me to swear on the GCAA? and another 3 months for the Type Rating...and now for another 4 months for the 12 Take Offs & Landings...would you like me to Cry...REPUTATION is what pays me back, not nagging & Swearing...

Here you go, the ground school is similar for everyone 6 to 7 months & maybe more if you Have Ramadan, Eid & other National Holidays, here's the explanation :

You Have 3 Modules in the Ground School called Module 1, Module 2 & Module 3 and it doesn't matter whether you start with Module 1 or Module 2 or Module 3:

In order to keep the batches running, my Batch started with Module 1 (we were 4, then became 2 in less than a week from the start date), while the new joiners have joined us in Module 2 (Another 2 Guys), so for Batch 2A (me & my friend) Module 1 & 2 were done, and we have module 3 left...while Batch 2B (done with Mod 2 & 3) had Module 1 to go so, they had to spend about 2.5 months in ground school & so on for the other Batches, this then changed I guess from batch 5, where there is no intersections/overlapping between batches...unless if some people had failed in the Module...they had to join the new comers again...etc.

As far as I can tell you "aakhan", you can ask Alpha or GCAA for clear number of "Success Ratios" (by law they must be truthful) as most of the dropouts happen in the ground school & I don't have a track of that, plus, the fact that some batches have merged...etc. but for the Batches that I know 1, 2 & 3 (probably some of the 4)...1 is 100% success, 2 until the moment is 100% success & 3 had only one who have dropped out from the core flying as I heard he had some difficulties...he started good, then nobody knows what happened...as far as I heard, he was unsafe to go solo...I don't know if the Psycho-motor test would have shown it he had the skills, but...Solo phobic...I don't want to judge or give a bad impression about him, if he's reading...let him answer by himself !

At the end of the day aakhan, if you have the Numbers...let me know...it is none of my business to support any side, as far as I see it, AAG have screwed up in a lots of places at the beginning...I confess that batch 1 was like Lab Rat/Mouse, but would I regret it?...would you regret it ?
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 08:47
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To all

I have been reading this thread; more like an 'overlord' but with a secret hope of finding my own salvation...

From what I see, read, hear & asked...and BTW that includes, AAAirline, AAAcademy, GCAA & a two of the major AAAAirlines here (sorry had to add the 'AAA' because every other word had it)....I have come to the conclusion that has been said many times before, here on this site & in life.... DECIDE FOR YOURSELF!

MPL is new, new is risky
PPL/CPL is old, old is not fast, not fast is risky (except on the roads)
AAAirline is an LCC, LLC(s) are risky
AAG is at the end of the day a business, money making is risky
PPRuNE is a rumour network, rumours are risky
.... I think you get the point...

Basically, at the end of the day it all boils down to the RISK you want to take in life & how much will you put on the line for it. So the least risky options are, in order of ascending RISK level:

//1// Keep the job you have & just get a PPL to satisfy the pigeon inside you
//2// If you are young, go get a degree in something you fancy & make your parents proud (and broke)
//3// Wait for initial batches to complete their 80 sectors & see what happens to them & the following batches
//4// GO FOR IT, but DON’T think twice (saves you some neurons for studying)
//5// Jump off a cliff & flap your arms hoping you can fly, no PPL/CPL/MPL & brains required for this, BUT do take a parachute & safety gear & a BASE jumping licence or else it will surely end up in your soul flying up to the heavens. Oh and BTW do not try this at home; apart from the safety factor, YOU DON’T HAVE A CLIFF AT HOME (unless you are Tarzan).

Anyhow, weird literature aside, do your research PROPERLY & decide for yourself. Reading this site is considered research, but bickering on it is NOT. Visit the school, the GCAA & if possible the airlines & ask questions.

Best of luck to us all… we need it…. right after the money
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@ Risk

I 2nd say what he said...Specially the WAIT part
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Old 29th Dec 2011, 21:08
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The bigger question.

A GCAA inital license is not worth 5 dhs like alone 500,000 or whatever the final figure is now for alpha. This stands be it ppl/cpl/mpl.

Anyone who has a serious interest in flying for food should take there monies to a reputable school which has not only graduated students but got them into full time paid employment as well.

Marlim and the rest are now pot comitted and have no choice but to stick with alpha and the route it takes them.

The real question however is not will these unfortunate few get into AA before the retirement age but will they be able to comtinue a career from there. One would assume flying through the night into third world countries is not where they want to spend the rest of there years.
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@malirm

go back to post 21.....was I right ??

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@ Duboy

Great Answer...Keep in mind, these 3rd world Countries are now richer than any EU or North American Countries you can think of (Hence, it's GCAAs), don't you ever speak about this, they call it Respect...Being committed is the part of the deal my dear, I Got a Job before I even graduate...

@ Masif

You are Totally Wrong...MPLers are Falcons but thanks for keeping up

Happy New Year Guys...enjoy it...As I & my colleagues will do

Duboy & Masif...I understand your views...all the PPRuNers do need it as much as I do...please, if you have intel/info that can screw me or proof me otherwise...or help the other guys, please go ahead...

I will be leaving this Thread in 2 weeks time for a long long time... TC
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Old 1st Jan 2012, 17:52
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Sure Malirm you will get employment with Air Arabria before you graduate after all you have put in a lot of energy in supporting Alpha. Good job you have done for Alpha. By the way what was the final figure you ended up paying Alpha? I am sure you will not tell the truth? A friend cadet from Alpha tells me that you pay Dh5000 for every subject you resit at ground school. A lot of fee is added as you go along. If a cadet is thrown at ground school then the loss is Dh 150,000 or more, if you are thrown at core flying stage you have lost Dh300,000 or more and if you are thrown at the final stage God alone help you because Alpha would have got all their money from you and then they dont care.
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I agree with Taras B. I too would like to see the aviation community boycott the Alpha Aviation Group at Sharjah. It is indeed a money making business and the selection exam is of a low standard so that they can get the required number of cadets to fill up their seats and then once you are inside you are like a hostage. Fees are added on, cadets are removed in the name of keeping to their high standards and the cadets are made to sign one sided contracts which go in favour of Alpha.
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Old 2nd Jan 2012, 11:16
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@ Taras B

Serious Information to be honest, go now & check Horizon Flight Academy, Fujairah Flight School & Emirates Flying School by contacting GCAA, then come back here...(I DO NOT Imply that these flight schools have any problems...but since you want a bycott thingy...lets do you the fair way )

The information I was given for closing down the flight line was for the favor of having more flights (congested skies) & the time reduction for the period of core flying (2 months instead of 5 or 6 months)...which sounds nice to the public, unfortunately...I hear something else now...Thanks Taras B, I hope AAG can proof otherwise

Aakhan, you are right about money making, but I guess that all Universities & Schools should also be fair & let me pass in the tests & exams, specially in getting my Masters in Physics !...because I am paying...

Aakhan, you are Right in asking for a Stronger/Higher selection criteria... I was around the Academy last week, I asked about the Selection process, they were using COMPASS as a part of the Selection process, we had Pilapt at our times...I don't know of it had become easier or Harder...never did a COMPASS test...but since AAG has people dropping out...they must make their analysis & accordingly improve the selection process...

Waiting for more info before I Graduate...
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