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Old 9th Aug 2009, 17:53
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Its true

I may jeopardize my reputation as an EK muppet - but its true.
I don't know ANYBODY in modern aviation who doesn't have a pic of him/herself taken in front of or inside a high bypass engine - but those folks got sacked for it.
Be careful out there.
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 01:17
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joehunt, despite what Payscale says, from my (quite long) experience flying into Oz with EK, Wiley is correct. The Australians won't let the outbound crew past the departure lounge until the incoming crew have left the aircraft. (Payscale's right about the bridge being switched between Arrivals and Departure floors.)

On the few occasions when I've felt I've had to brief the outgoing captain on some technical issue with the aircraft, they've let me talk to him, but it's turned into an exercise that's pretty close to pulling teeth. Security, y'know.
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 07:13
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My fault. I had DXB in mind when I answered about in and out bound crews meeting.

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Old 10th Aug 2009, 07:40
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Rock, Just to clarify it was a member of the EK staff in CMB who took photo's of the crew taking photo's of themselves to use as evidence against them?
Did I read your message correctly? I shouldn't really be surprised but .......
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 07:52
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Support???

Regardless of who took the photo the main issue I feel strongly about is the lack of SUPPORT despite assurances from TCAS, Ed & Marty that it would be given.

If support was given it was ineffective and a sad reflection on the state we are in; that our 'managers' are impotent and regardless of their overtures to the contrary we have no worthwhile support whatsoever.
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 08:58
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The photos (of the crew taking photos) were taken by a group (i.e. more than one) of passengers. They demanded that they be sent to EK management along with a complaint.

Doubt anyone would be brave enough to bury something like that. I have known the SM in Colombo for years and have no reason to doubt what he says. Perhaps You Rock has evidence to the contrary?

But the point is the ridiculously OTT response. Typical of how things have been run here recently.

Which reminds me why I have given up reading or responding to these forums.

Bye All

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Old 10th Aug 2009, 09:45
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He was, most certainly, NOT a national of the UAE!
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 10:18
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When I check the portal, when this incident first was the subject of you can't be serious about this, the 2x crew RR who had just done the CMB, were most certainly NOT Emaratis. Not that the nationality has a bearing on the incident.

Also don't forget your hats chaps, you may get a written warning!!!! Trust me I met an F/O who told me about being reported by a FDM!!!!!!! TCAS went nuts apprently.

Ho hum...

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Old 10th Aug 2009, 12:24
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Wow... working for Emirates reminds me more and more of Qatar Airways!
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 15:28
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Being reported by an FDM? So it's mandatory wearing your hat inside the HQ building? I thought in public view was the focus.

This is getting silly
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 15:30
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This is what happens when you end up being slaves to s. They are and have been for centuries, masters at trading in unpaid or under paid "staff", who are in the end abused and battered. They just can't help themselves.

Talking about the "match made in heaven" to which EK lawyer refers. Is everyone so s scared of loosing their damned jobs, not make a stand? I.E., leave.? I am afraid I would sweep the streets before being reduced to that. There is also a life outside aviation in case you are not aware.

Never been interested in working for w again, as I have done my share of bending over, thank you very much. Just not worth it.

I will now avoid flying on EK, for sure.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 00:57
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serves the FO right, WTF would he even go to the FDM (who was a crew planner or mopping the floors a few weekes earlier) and apologize for not having a hat.
the FDM is not the boss of the pilots unless we let him boss us around
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 01:06
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More blood will be spilt as TCAS and the Horse try to hold on to a job, they are already on death row, just waiting for the executioner.
My prediction is that either (or both) the equine person or the traffic avoidance one will eventually get the chop over the Melbourne incident - (and they both know it) - but only after a suitable 'face saving' time has passed, so it can be sold to those who might choose to believe the company line that will be spun at the time as being not related to Melbourne.

To chop one of both of them now would be admitting that the perfect EK system might not be quite so perfect, so they have a stay of execution. Each thinks the other might be the only unlucky one to go, hence each of them tripping over their own feet attempting to prove to AAR what hard men they can be in dealing with the slav... sorry, pilots.

As the title of the thread says: "The Sackings Will Continue..."

I suspect that'll be one farewell party that will be able to be held in a mobile phone booth.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 02:02
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Body Count

I was wondering if we can come up with an accurate body count for the year. Below are the names I believe were "sacked" and updates through cut and paste are welcome. If anyone has any training cost info, it would be interesting to know what the replacement training costs will be.....

Fly Safe

MEL X 2
MAN X 2
SIN X 1
KL X 1
DXB Blogger X 1
CMB X 1 (Guess CA remained a CA but Purser status is unknown)
EK Safety VP X 1 (back to the line)
ACC (near miss-still with us thank goodness)

I show 4 CAs and 4 FOs to be replaced. Any validated updates?

Fly Safe,

Retired (Again).
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 17:41
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hat in sim

Sailor Staynes is correct. The FDM in question was MT. Don't know what rode him that day.
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Old 13th Aug 2009, 17:46
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Not the most capable FDM in my opinion
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 06:16
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CMB photos CA in the right seat now for 2 years.
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 07:54
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Could it be because they took pictures at the main airport in a country with civil unrest and that might have jeopardized EKs operation into that airport.

I cant in my wildest fantasy imagine, even after 8 years in country, that its just the fact that they took pics. Even if it was in the engine. How many times havnt you seen foot steps in the engine during walk around..
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 08:17
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Not the smartest move to be outside taking photos in a place where they've just been at war for years. They base fighters there and have been attacked. Asking the chap in blue camouflage (whats with that??) with the Lee Enfield to hold your lens cover while you take snaps of the girls standing all over the acoustic lining - hmmm.... clever?

It'd be handy to know the real motivation behind the recent spate of sackings. It's not to do with photography or having sex or over-flying a jungle oonga-boonga "palace" too low. But of course if you ask them they will only tell you lies.
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Old 14th Aug 2009, 13:24
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Are you for real Snorkel....? Get off this forum before your dad comes home from his flight. Surely you must a delinquent teen messing around. Run along now...
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