The sackings will continue until....
After a couple of e-mails and some investgating, it seems the photos were taken in CMB, and ground staff complained. Pilots are removed from roster.
Daft place to have the birds jump in the engines for photos
Slight civil war just over.
EGGW
Daft place to have the birds jump in the engines for photos
Slight civil war just over.EGGW
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I did a few months damp lease for Etihad with Air Malta; at the end I sneaked a picture of myself in front of the Etihad livery jet I had just flown....naughty naughty! Yes we were warned to take no photos at the airport.
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Thye airport of choice for crew in/in front of intake piccies is Auckland. Refreshing lack of busllsh-one-t from the Kiwis - unlike their cousins on the 'West Island', who seem to think they are at the cutting edge of the war on terror. Incoming/outgoing crews aren't even allowed to communicate - for reasons I've never quite got my head around.
Hope this blows over without any long term problems for the CMB crew concerned.
Hope this blows over without any long term problems for the CMB crew concerned.
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unlike their cousins on the 'West Island', who seem to think they are at the cutting edge of the war on terror
It's not their fault; I believe the aussies simply want to avoid their country turning out like the UK has.
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Yup seriously...one less F/O and a demoted captain who will no doubt be a highly motivated employee.
All ya can do is make sure you have an exit plan in advance and hope it doesn't happen to you until they run short of pilots again and have to start acting like adults.
All ya can do is make sure you have an exit plan in advance and hope it doesn't happen to you until they run short of pilots again and have to start acting like adults.
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Support, what support? What part of the SOPs were broken? Whose lives were endangered? TCAS, where are your actions when your mouth clearly offered your support?
They took a few photos, so what? A letter/call to advise that it would be better not to due to local sensitivities would have sufficed but to sack & demote?
They took a few photos, so what? A letter/call to advise that it would be better not to due to local sensitivities would have sufficed but to sack & demote?
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Passed through CMB and tried to get the real story from the SM.
Evidently there had a been a long technical delay and that the engineers were working on the aircraft. The crew were on-board but the passengers were at the gate. A group of them (Brits I was told
) had been getting rather aggro that their connections out of DXB were going to be missed.
Someone noticed the crew taking photos and got quite nasty about it, saying that pilot and cabin crew "weren't doing anything to shorten the delay". (How could they?). This group of pax then took photos of the crew around the aircraft with their mobiles and told the ground staff that they would be posting these photos on the internet and emailing to EK management.
The ground staff were forced to report the entire incident as the pax were making a complaint. The SM was shocked to hear of the outcome. Neither the ground staff nor security reported the crew for taking photos. the passengers who made the complaint are the real perps IMHO.
Evidently there had a been a long technical delay and that the engineers were working on the aircraft. The crew were on-board but the passengers were at the gate. A group of them (Brits I was told
) had been getting rather aggro that their connections out of DXB were going to be missed.Someone noticed the crew taking photos and got quite nasty about it, saying that pilot and cabin crew "weren't doing anything to shorten the delay". (How could they?). This group of pax then took photos of the crew around the aircraft with their mobiles and told the ground staff that they would be posting these photos on the internet and emailing to EK management.
The ground staff were forced to report the entire incident as the pax were making a complaint. The SM was shocked to hear of the outcome. Neither the ground staff nor security reported the crew for taking photos. the passengers who made the complaint are the real perps IMHO.
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Unbelievable, a new low.
AS and ED, you should know that almost every pilot here has ZERO respect for you. I dont even know why I write this as it so obviously means nothing to you two desk monkeys.
As for DXB and EK, its true. You cant polish a turd.
AS and ED, you should know that almost every pilot here has ZERO respect for you. I dont even know why I write this as it so obviously means nothing to you two desk monkeys.
As for DXB and EK, its true. You cant polish a turd.
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This means a new step has been made to increase conflict levels between management and pilots.
Forget "support"
Forget the words spoken on the meetings about any subject.
A kick below the waist, this one.
Respect to the ones that got fired and their families.
Forget "support"
Forget the words spoken on the meetings about any subject.
A kick below the waist, this one.
Respect to the ones that got fired and their families.
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Lowstandard, you can polish a turd.. watched them successfully polish a turd on Mythbusters a few years back.
On a serious note, what a terrible way to deal with such a minor situation, a telephone boll..king/advisory would suffice and a letter to Pax involved to explain the situation. Let's hope the next pilot shortage arrives sooner than later...
On a serious note, what a terrible way to deal with such a minor situation, a telephone boll..king/advisory would suffice and a letter to Pax involved to explain the situation. Let's hope the next pilot shortage arrives sooner than later...
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I would like to correct you, the SM is partly bull****ting to you
it was not the passengers but actually one of the EK ground staff that took the photos
I would like to correct you, the SM is partly bull****ting to you
it was not the passengers but actually one of the EK ground staff that took the photos
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Its due to the fact that inbound and outbound crews are on different floors of the building. Occasionally we do meet in the aircraft. Lets not make it worse than it is.
I cant believe that someone was sacked over photos.
I cant believe that someone was sacked over photos.