View Poll Results: Keep it for the EK guys - where's your stress level?
2 - No Stress
27
4.86%
3 - Stress? What stress?
12
2.16%
4 - Occasional light chop
58
10.45%
5 - Who you calling grumpy?
38
6.85%
6 - I've had enough of this.
111
20.00%
7 - Clenching fists, biting nails. Often.
66
11.89%
8 - If you do that again I'll kill you!
59
10.63%
9 - Uncontrollable sobbing. Even in your sleep.
22
3.96%
10 - AAAAAAAAAAAaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!
162
29.19%
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Stress Levels at Emirates
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Ditto
You'd have to make the distinction between stress of the actual job and stress associated with the wider EK lifestyle package. Theres a bit of a point spread between the two! Especially if you get put in Mirdiff.
If I could take this job back to my home country I'd be a pretty happy guy.
Mind you I'm 777...
You'd have to make the distinction between stress of the actual job and stress associated with the wider EK lifestyle package. Theres a bit of a point spread between the two! Especially if you get put in Mirdiff.
If I could take this job back to my home country I'd be a pretty happy guy.
Mind you I'm 777...
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Volverine,
Unfortunately I am going to have to give you a 2 because its
"BRACE BRACE" not "BRACE BRACE BRACE".
Unfortunately you will be fired.
Unfortunately yes, this is training.
Ill take a 7 because if I do get called in, I really want to show them something
Unfortunately I am going to have to give you a 2 because its
"BRACE BRACE" not "BRACE BRACE BRACE".
Unfortunately you will be fired.
Unfortunately yes, this is training.
Ill take a 7 because if I do get called in, I really want to show them something
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Re TCAS and an invite to the Glass House if rude... don't answer the blo*dy phone on days off/rest periods = no arguments, less stress.
As for the pathetic attempts of TCAS, M&M & Ed to give us the the perception that they care, they have only succeeded to increase the stress levels to point which increases the possibility of an incident/accident. Again they shoot and score... into their own net, pathetic.
10.
FUEK
As for the pathetic attempts of TCAS, M&M & Ed to give us the the perception that they care, they have only succeeded to increase the stress levels to point which increases the possibility of an incident/accident. Again they shoot and score... into their own net, pathetic.
10.
FUEK
little emotional there Mensaboy,
If you do turn up to work fatigued, then you contravene the FOM, and common sense. Blaming a crew schedular behind a desk for any mistake we make at work (and trying to get away with it) is stretching the bow a little too far.
Some flight deck have been taking leave with out pay. It just wasn't advertised, but l get your point.
Unfortunately those you speak of do exist in the pilot group. I have flown and shared cars with colleagues that do nothing short of make me cringe with some of their antics and over self-belief. And l believe this minority have induced the email from TCAS.
You are correct about rest and politeness when dealing with roster changes.
halas
If you do turn up to work fatigued, then you contravene the FOM, and common sense. Blaming a crew schedular behind a desk for any mistake we make at work (and trying to get away with it) is stretching the bow a little too far.
Some flight deck have been taking leave with out pay. It just wasn't advertised, but l get your point.
Unfortunately those you speak of do exist in the pilot group. I have flown and shared cars with colleagues that do nothing short of make me cringe with some of their antics and over self-belief. And l believe this minority have induced the email from TCAS.
You are correct about rest and politeness when dealing with roster changes.
halas
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Ahhhh White Knight...defender of the EK...love it. Always good for a chuckle. Lemme guess, your Prado is the one with the Fly Emirates sunshades and you have the Talking Horse on speed-dial...
I tend to agree with kennytheking. To be stressed implies that one actually gives a sh$t. Or has the energy to pretend they do. I save that for the twice-yearly checking, otherwise *yawn*...
A good rule of warfare is to remember there is no one more dangerous than an adversary with little to lose. Something the brilliant bulbs "leading" us would do well to think about. Apathy is deadlier than fatigue, and you can't force someone to care no matter how many petty FCI's you release, and no matter how many patronizing, paternal emails you send. Bullying is a game of diminishing returns.
Back to sleep!
I tend to agree with kennytheking. To be stressed implies that one actually gives a sh$t. Or has the energy to pretend they do. I save that for the twice-yearly checking, otherwise *yawn*...
A good rule of warfare is to remember there is no one more dangerous than an adversary with little to lose. Something the brilliant bulbs "leading" us would do well to think about. Apathy is deadlier than fatigue, and you can't force someone to care no matter how many petty FCI's you release, and no matter how many patronizing, paternal emails you send. Bullying is a game of diminishing returns.
Back to sleep!
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Ahhh NLH - not a prado old son, too small Talking horse on speed dial - no thanks, I don't listen to drivel... (what's speed dial)
I don't get stressed too much - simple.. Life's what you make it sunshine! I go to work - fly - enjoy ale downroute - come home and forget about EK. Simple... You all want to sit and stew then that's up to you
I don't get stressed too much - simple.. Life's what you make it sunshine! I go to work - fly - enjoy ale downroute - come home and forget about EK. Simple... You all want to sit and stew then that's up to you
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Going to work reduces my stress levels - I go to a pub in a faraway land and don't have to listen to the wife complain about how late I got home and didn't put out the rubbish!
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what a great thread Fellas
I love going to work....I have a great laugh everyday I am there experiencing the gross neglegence of the ground staff trying to dispatch us out of Dubai....
I laugh at the guys screaming at SMNC on 132.6 because the high lifter hasnt made the Aircraft at gate C30 at 5am or the loadsheet hasnt arrived as per the FCI dated blah blah blah 2009 or I have been over fueled 200kg's.....
I am actually getting younger laughing so hard at the attitudes of some of my colleages being too scared to come to work incase its their last flight.....I am unsure what exactley they are scared of!!
And the biggest laugh of all ..........not one policy change that has been implemented after the so called Melbourne incident has affected me in anyway.......
So whats my point......I am laughing alot these days.....and I only laugh at good Jokes
Fellas you are Lions......dont let the monkeys stress you out....they will always be monkeys....but... you will always be a Lion..rrrrrrrrrraaaahhhh
TR
I love going to work....I have a great laugh everyday I am there experiencing the gross neglegence of the ground staff trying to dispatch us out of Dubai....
I laugh at the guys screaming at SMNC on 132.6 because the high lifter hasnt made the Aircraft at gate C30 at 5am or the loadsheet hasnt arrived as per the FCI dated blah blah blah 2009 or I have been over fueled 200kg's.....
I am actually getting younger laughing so hard at the attitudes of some of my colleages being too scared to come to work incase its their last flight.....I am unsure what exactley they are scared of!!
And the biggest laugh of all ..........not one policy change that has been implemented after the so called Melbourne incident has affected me in anyway.......
So whats my point......I am laughing alot these days.....and I only laugh at good Jokes
Fellas you are Lions......dont let the monkeys stress you out....they will always be monkeys....but... you will always be a Lion..rrrrrrrrrraaaahhhh
TR
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Great post Tail Rota . Anybody departing EK for 'nefarious' reasons should have no problem finding gainful employment - there are loads of jobs on A330s etc.
I knew TCAS would screw things up for EK , he was soooooooooo popular in BA too , luckily he did not bring his sidekick the Prince Of Darkness with him methinks. Although , if he had , things would have come to a head by now , perhaps a good thing . BALPA kept these fellows in check somewhat.
Keep up the good fight guys - makes entertaining reading and pprune is not off the air here !!
I knew TCAS would screw things up for EK , he was soooooooooo popular in BA too , luckily he did not bring his sidekick the Prince Of Darkness with him methinks. Although , if he had , things would have come to a head by now , perhaps a good thing . BALPA kept these fellows in check somewhat.
Keep up the good fight guys - makes entertaining reading and pprune is not off the air here !!
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Hold on a second, h3dxb.
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You mixed up things real bad, man. The poolies have been screened more than one year ago and we should be happy about any help we can get to share the load we've been carrying. This statement of yours is all about prejudice, since you have no idea who are the guys coming or their reasons to come.
You want respect, how about showing some?
You may even second guess their decision to come, but not their competence.
BTW, the few called now were not selected from their little selection group like you or me, but among all approved groups, regardless of selection date. Company scored them by general selection performance, English level for non native speakers, background and date of last flight.
And more: The standards for the selection never been lowered and additionally, since there are lots of pilots for few spots, they also set a top number for BMI(Body Mass Index) and waist circumference. How about that.
Welcome on board new joiners.
Oh, yes: Stress level at 4, I think.
We hire only the best?? BS^10
The best will not come for the current offer, and the few best are left, will run as soon the wheel is once more turning.
Never saw before , so much fear, incompetence, mismanagment and CYA like here. Will never ever listen again to a slogan: we hire the best!!!!!!!!!
The best will not come for the current offer, and the few best are left, will run as soon the wheel is once more turning.
Never saw before , so much fear, incompetence, mismanagment and CYA like here. Will never ever listen again to a slogan: we hire the best!!!!!!!!!
You want respect, how about showing some?
You may even second guess their decision to come, but not their competence.
BTW, the few called now were not selected from their little selection group like you or me, but among all approved groups, regardless of selection date. Company scored them by general selection performance, English level for non native speakers, background and date of last flight.
And more: The standards for the selection never been lowered and additionally, since there are lots of pilots for few spots, they also set a top number for BMI(Body Mass Index) and waist circumference. How about that.
Welcome on board new joiners.
Oh, yes: Stress level at 4, I think.
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It works you know, just dial 2 and you get instant stress relief.
After 30 sec I even stopped feeling guilty about who was going to do my flight, who even cares any more? not me coz I've given up.
I don't answer my company calls, i don't reply to company calls. Don't ever say yes and always have a beers ready in hand, oops sorry can't fly, I've just had a beer. Good bye screwing!!!!
After 30 sec I even stopped feeling guilty about who was going to do my flight, who even cares any more? not me coz I've given up.
I don't answer my company calls, i don't reply to company calls. Don't ever say yes and always have a beers ready in hand, oops sorry can't fly, I've just had a beer. Good bye screwing!!!!
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Weeeell... stress is one a those pretty subjective 'n idiosyncratic things... I reckon mine's 'bout a 7. Some day's r better than others...
happy contrails ladies 'n gents
k-o-t-s
happy contrails ladies 'n gents
k-o-t-s
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tail-rota great post man! You have it exactly right...in the end there are only pussies who fly desks, who go home to bed every day at 3:30 or whatever...and WISH they had the balls to do the job...they whinge and write memos and FCI's and pretend they have power...but in the end they are eunuchs, scurrying to protect their jobs...I laugh harder every day! The shrill admonitions, the stern emails...surely they are in jest? I dread the management meeting, how is one supposed to keep a straight face? And hell if I will wear the uniform, I only wear that when paid...
I came for the money, I came for the lies...now I stay solely for the entertainment value...what on EARTH will they do next in inept, classic keystone cops fashion? There isn't much left to take away except *gasp* the job itself, my my what a shame that would be...to be forced to leave the paradise of Dubai and return to a real country?...it is all pretty hilarious...I try to explain to those not here what it's like but it's hopeless, you couldn't make it up if you tried...
I DO feel a tad sorry for the Talking Horse...I mean it MUST be uncomfortable being a sock puppet with Redha's hand up your ass...
Peace out to my fellow lions!
I came for the money, I came for the lies...now I stay solely for the entertainment value...what on EARTH will they do next in inept, classic keystone cops fashion? There isn't much left to take away except *gasp* the job itself, my my what a shame that would be...to be forced to leave the paradise of Dubai and return to a real country?...it is all pretty hilarious...I try to explain to those not here what it's like but it's hopeless, you couldn't make it up if you tried...
I DO feel a tad sorry for the Talking Horse...I mean it MUST be uncomfortable being a sock puppet with Redha's hand up your ass...
Peace out to my fellow lions!
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not one policy change that has been implemented after the so called Melbourne incident has affected me in anyway
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Originally Posted by Tail Rota
the biggest laugh of all ..........not one policy change that has been implemented after the so called Melbourne incident has affected me in anyway