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Old 14th Aug 2010, 12:48
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Yes, I fly for Oman Air and also heard that they are recruiting Cpt. and F.O. for the ATR fleet. It seems that some of them are moving into the Embraer 175's...


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Yes, I fly for Oman Air and also heard that they are recruiting Cpt. and F.O. for the ATR fleet. It seems that some of them are moving into the Embraer 175's...
probably not with 3 YEARS BOND
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 06:25
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YES they signed the PANAMANIAN desparate pilots with only pencil plane ratings
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Two years bond after joining...

DO NOT LISTEN TO "IN FACT IS".

There is something very wrong and personal between him and Oman Air. I don't know if he got fired or what, but his information is written in a very negative and deceiving way...

Sorry, I had to say it Just informing the people that have not taken the time to read through the whole thread.

Sorry "IN FACT IS", nothing personal; Ready to take the beating...

Happy landings,

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Old 15th Aug 2010, 07:28
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Thumbs down roster restriction in WY

Dear All,

Roster plays a very significant role in the life of a pilot and the management is trying its best to make it work in the best interest of the company and the pilots. The computerised rostering system is being continuously monitored and efforts made to improve the quality of the roster. The first step was to ensure legal limitations are not violated and corrections were made whenever something came to light.

The next phase is to have a fair distribution of duty hours followed by improving the quality. Work was initiated a few months ago for improving the quality by planning for an OPTIMIZER which the vendor is developing for us.

With your cooperation and understanding, we have come a long way and the roster is now being provided by the 20th of the month. Adherence to the published roster is now a priority to enable better planning for the next month. Swapping of flights creates imbalance and complicates rostering, as such this would be restricted to only unavoidable and emergency cases, to be approved by the Fleet Capts. We are trying this for the next three months and with your cooperation make it successful.

Your feedback and suggestions are most welcome and would be given due consideration.

Together we can make it work for the benefit of all.

Best wishes

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Capt Jati Dhillon[/FONT]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Senior Manager Operations[/FONT]
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Old 15th Aug 2010, 07:45
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There is something very wrong and personal between him and Oman Air.
nothing personal with me, Scube3 it just personal between you and WY, you still with the propeller want to go to the jet, and no other choices so you have to take it all the st they give.

no I'm away from WY, and see the roster ask the B737 pilots are they happy with it since the last 2 years, specially with your unused SMLO from SpiceJet, I just have a reliable source from inside WY, you got his email he..!!
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Apparently this is how you 'improve' rostering in la-la land , by making it even more inflexible than it was already , hard to imagine it is possible !
Perhaps they will agree to not change the roster either ?? ha-ha.........
Days Off not sacrosanct , only way programme was operated 2 days ago was with DayOff-ers !
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Wow! Yesterday's company email.
Well, thanks for providing some real information "IN FACT IS"; Keep coming all the negative and also "positive" changes of Oman Air. That is what I was referring to... balance. You are a one side story teller... and a very radical one... you have kind of a personal vendetta.

Indeed, this roster restriction is bad news... The only good news is that this is not UK and here any excuse is a good excuse... but having to get another signature before swapping will be a hassle. I hope it won't last for too long... This is going to make big waves in the company.... Let's wait an see...

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Admin is so c**p they forgot to remove IN FACT IS from the mailing list after he went walkabout !!
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LEAVE TICKET at WY

Dear,

As requested in my previous mail, do come over to the office and discuss this issue.

Regards

Capt Jati Dhillon
Senior Manager Line Operations
GSM:



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:10 PM
To: Jantinderpal.dhillon
Cc: Flt Ops Pilots All
Subject: RE: leave ticket

Dear Sir,

I'm bringing this Issue to your attention again, as we heard no feedback on this issue! we pilots, annual leave is an important thing to us, its the time where we can relax with family and our loved ones. please let us know if this case is under consideration and is being taken care off , as we are all waiting for the answer.

Thank you

Regards,





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From: Jatinderpal Singh Dhillon
Sent: Tue 5/25/2010 8:49 AM
To: Jantinderpal
Cc: Flt Ops Pilots All
Subject: RE: leave ticket

Dear ,

Kindly come over to my office to discuss this and understand so that it can be addressed with HR.

Kind regards

Capt Jati Dhillon
Senior Manager Line Operations
GSM:




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:20 AM
To: Jatinderpal Singh Dhillon
Cc: Flt Ops Pilots All
Subject: RE: leave ticket

Dear Gentlemen,
This is a big issue for us as pilots, actually this was my only question I asked in my interview with Oman air interviewer team but I was told " you will get whatever you get now " so I understood it as that I will get firm tickets as my previous employer was used to provide us with !!!( upgradable to first class ) I’ll appreciate if our department does something about it.
Thank you All
Capt.xxxxxxxxx
A330 fleet


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 5/24/2010 10:46 PM
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Cc: Flt Ops Pilots All
Subject: ??: leave ticket

Thank you
this mater of leave ticket is very important for us and our family and a I would like to add that should be complete free of charge like what the experts they don't pay even for taxes
as you all know now in Oman air there is no deference between local and expert so everything should be equal
thanks.

Capt.xxxxxxxx

________________________________


???: Jatinderpal Singh Dhillon
????: Flt Ops Pilots All
???????: leave ticket


Dear sir,

I would like to bring to your attention subject of leave ticket, I have my leave plan for next month, and I have plan to take family for vacation to kual Lumpur, but unfortunately I have not been able to make any reservation to kul or bkk. And the reasons that I am not entitle for a firm leave ticket and also the reservation had been told not to make any reservation for staff.

The question is are we not entitle to travel with our airline, and what kind of privileges of being an airline staff and can not take family for vacation with your own airline, and
WHY TREATING US AS NORMAL STAFF, WE ARE HIGH RANK STAFF WITH HIGH RESPONSIBILITY IN CHARGE OF MULTI MILLIONS AIRCRAFT AND PASSENGER, AND ALSO WE CAN NOT GET FIRM TICKET TO GO ON LEAVE WITH FAMILY.

I know we all work hard, but I know for fact we in flight ops work harder, some times we leave family and loves one and fly on days off, extend our duty to contribute more and more for the company, and what we get......

And dear sir I don't want to compare with airline in the regions.
I would appreciate if you look in to this matter, I appreciate all your efforts.

regards,
Capt.xxxxxxx



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Old 19th Aug 2010, 05:25
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you have kind of a personal vendetta
No I'm not

You are a one side story teller... and a very radical one
May be I'm, but I'm just in FACT is...the true

so, are they upgrade you to the Jet...?? and soon TRE don't worry about that
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You are not going to like this "IN FACT IS", but I have good news for Oman Air pilots. The cancellation of swapping you mention on your previous thread will be only temporarily (Only for three months). Now you can go back again with your "keep dreaming", "negativity" and "warm wishes" back in this thread.

Oh, another good news for Oman Air pilots. The supplemental salary (big chunk) is going to be included as basic salary from Sept. 1st 2010.

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More News to "Boost" Morale...

As 5 pilots recently resigned and more are on the way and Omanair management know this but don't seem to be worried about losing guys.

i used to wonder why they weren't worried...

Good news for those working hard for an upgrade because 8 FOs on Gulf Air A320 are about to join Omanair straight into the left hand seat of the B737NG, MIRACULOUSLY bypassing EVERYONE on the seniority list!

So miracles still do happen , especially in Omanair!

So those waiting for a Command Interview, keep studying hard...only this time for your Emirates interview!
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That is bad news Obi Wan Kirk... 8 copilots from Gulf Air! Well, the good news is that they need 24.
They are going to need a miracle as you said to upgrade the other 16 Oman Air copilots in such a short time. Nonetheless, I think upgrading 24 would have been actually impossible...
Well, I hope they finish them soon so they can relief the roster a bit!

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Love it , love it , love it..............
This is almost becoming funny , now , where is my deckchair ?
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I'm following this thread closely and it makes me wonder about the article in the June Airliner World of Oman Air. Is the image presented really that rose-tinted ? I think I should take everything with a grain of salt from now on
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Scube3,

Nonetheless, I think upgrading 24 would have been actually impossible... Well, I hope they finish them soon so they can relief the roster a bit!
there is nothing impossible with WY, remember an TRE with 2 yrs command experience, where in the world, please tell me.

you to try..?? apply for MFT position now and put your fake paper, pass the stupid interview...then your on your way....no problem.

remember the stupid Fleet Captain 2 yrs ago.

so, don't say impossible with WY, because you are doing mission impossible.

do they have this type of pilot...???

Pilot was asleep before crash: Black box data
Ajith Athrady, New Delhi, Sep 8, DHNS:

Nearly four months after an Air India Express Boeing aircraft crashed during landing at Mangalore airport killing 158 people on board, flight details contained in the black box have revealed that the pilot-in-command was asleep for an hour and 50 minutes when the plane cruised towards its destination.

An analysis of the cockpit voice recorder (CVR)— which contains conversation between two pilots, radio communication between the cockpit crew and others (including conversation with air traffic control personnel) and Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFDR)— was presented before the Court of Inquiry (CoI) headed by Air Marshal (Retd) B N Gokhale here on Wednesday.

The Directorate-General of Civil Aviation (DGCA), which presented the details to the CoI, had sent the CVR and the DFDR to the United States for data retrieval since they were heavily damaged, though the memory chips remained intact. In the CoI, officials from Boeing, the manufacturer of the aircraft, and GE, which was involved in decoding the black box, presented their findings.

Only excerpts of the black box data were released on Wednesday and a detailed report will be submitted to the Centre along with the CoI findings by the end of this month.
The startling details culled from the CVR and the DFDR have now established that pilot error, compounded by others factors like sleeping, caused the crash.

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The cockpit transcripts and coded DFDR information were released to silence persistent speculation that reasons other than pilot error might have contributed to the doom of the aircraft and the 152 passengers and six crew members.

The analysis of the CVR revealed that there was sound nasal snoring and heavy breathing for nearly two hours, indicating that one of the two pilots—in all likelihood Serbian national Captain Zslatko Glucika, 55—had fallen asleep on his seat on the 200-minute flight of IX-812 that originated in Dubai (local time 1:10 am) on May 22.
What corroborates pilot error as the principal reason behind the crash is the long silence in the cockpit—for as long as 110 minutes—indicating that Glucika, who was believed to have about 2,000 flying hours’ experience, had dozed off ahead of landing. Captain H S Ahluwalia, 40, from Mumbai, was the co-pilot of the ill-fated aircraft.

When it was time for flight IX-812 to land, it was too late. The black box details have established that the aircraft started descent for landing when it was flying at an altitude of 4,400 feet against the normal height of 2,000 feet. Besides, the flight touched down at the 4,638 feet mark on the middle of Mangalore’s table-top runway which has a maximum length of 8,038 feet. According to civil aviation regulations, normal touch-down mark for passenger aircraft is 1,000 feet.

This strongly indicates that Glucika not only reacted late and overshot the runway, but certain standard operating procedures were not followed during landing.

Deccan Herald reported on August 19 the pilots’ last-minute conversation in which Capt Ahluwalia desperately cautioned Glucika to abort landing and “go around”, meaning that the pilot should not attempt a landing and instead try to fly without touching down. The co-pilot is heard on the audio telling Glucika “we don’t have enought runway left”. Capt Ahluwalia’s last word to his commanding pilot was “control” and then the aircraft fell on to a steep slope before exploding into a ball of fire.

According to the decoded information from the black box, the aircraft was not on its glide path while landing. As suspected earlier, the Boeing 737-800 aircraft was flying at an unsually high speed of 139 knots during landing. In the course of the inquiry and inspection of the aircraft’s remains it was found that the plane’s landing gear was found in the takeoff position, suggesting that the pilot tried a “go around.”

“Despite the high speed and landing in the middle of the runway, had the pilot tried to stop the aircraft instead of taking off after making touch down, it would have stopped at least at the end of the run way averting the disaster,” a Boeing official said. In support of the evidence that the pilot tried a “go around,” the DFDR shows that Glucika activated the takeoff gear and that the engine was in powered to high speed. “During normal touch down the engine speed is always low”, the official said.

“The main reason for the accident was that the pilot(s) tried to take off when just 800 feet of the runway was left. It was a wrong judgment while attempting a takeoff,” he said.

The decoding of the black box also shows that the GPS (ground proximity warning system) precision approach and landing system of the aircraft had given several warnings indicating that it was taking a wrong glide path. The CVR records show that both pilots had discussed that the aircraft was following a wrong glide path.

Early on May 22, the weather was fine for landing and visibility 6 km. The runway was dry and clearance had been given for landing under the Instrument Landing System. According to Boeing, the runway length for a 737-800 type aircraft during landing should be 7,500 feet.

Excerpts of pilots’ conversation

As soon as Pilot Captain Z Glucika got clearance of the ATC, he started descending for landing.
Co-Pilot: (Captain H S Ahluwalia): O My God.
Both pilots: Flight is taking wrong path and wrong side.
Co-pilot: Go around
Though flight is still descending and it tried to touch down in middle of the run way, the co-pilot insists on ‘go around’.
Co-pilot: Pull up. (Repeats six times)
Captain: Only 800 metres left. (in runway) (It was suspected that this time may be the aircraft was trying to take off and pilot found that only 800 feet of run way left)

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WARNING for WY management

More than 200 pilots in China were found to have falsified qualifications on their resumes two years ago in a check by the Civil Aviation Administration of China.
The finding, which was not made public at the time, surfaced recently in an aviation safety conference hosted by the CAAC, say local reports.
The pilots were found to have falsified certain qualifications on their résumés while job-hopping, say the reports. Half of the pilots who were caught were reportedly with Shenzhen Airlines, the parent of Henan Airlines, the operator involved in a deadly air crash in August.
Authorities have ordered the pilots to stop flying or undergo assessments to verify their qualifications, say the reports.
Shenzhen Airlines' officials could not be contacted for comment.
Air safety in China came under the spotlight recently following the 24 August crash involving a Henan Airlines Embraer 190. The incident, which killed 42 of 96 people on board, prompted a review of safety operations by Chinese authorities and airlines.
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Amazing story IN FACT IS. I actually didn't know the reason of that crash. what a morons these pilots. I just wonder why you publish it in this threat...
Are you trying to say that Oman Air pilots are more likely to fall sleep than the mighty "Fly Dubai" pilots? Just don't get it... and yes we know the 2 year old TRE, blah, blah, blah...

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soresore :

fake paper my friend....it fake paper...and how many serbian work with WY, where do they got their rating

Scube3 :

did you check your roster..?? 2-3 consecutive night flying with minimum rest yes.....sure you do it because of the money (flight duty time) but did you consider the safety yes....is not happen yet...insya Allah

omegalex :

"You appear to have a personal problem with me. I find your comments in your last post to be racist. I welcome you to call me to discuss this matter in more detail. PM me back if you would to talk about it. In the mean time I will do all that I can to find out who you are."

and omegalex try get some more command hours, and more experiences maybe you will find me...but not with your qualification right now..that's only for WY.... this kind of mentalities of an TRE...????

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