Saudia

[SW1]

Upgrades at Saudia

Do Saudia upgrade FOs onto the A320s?

How long does one have to be employed there before you can start the process?

Thanks

[mutt]

Do Saudia upgrade FOs onto the A320s?

Yes, they upgrade from widebody aircraft down to A320, but not right seat left seat on the 320.

How long does one have to be employed there before you can start the process?

I would guess 10 years!! They can upgrade around 100 per year and your seniority number would be around 1000 (FO's).

[mutt]

So once again i ask do we require a current IR

As there is no such thing in FAA/GACA land, I would say that the answer is no.

and a current class one medical before joining?

As the medical is required for the license to be valid, I would say that the answer is Yes.

[mutt]

OK we have had our rumors about fleet increases, salary increases, and bonuses..... so whats next....

Who want's to guess at the new routes for 2016?

[captainpluto]

But don't we have to do a initial class one medical once we land in Saudi, before we start the training? I mean the saudi medical or whichever local medical is done

[mutt]

Since they stopped people doing the GACA written's for their license, that means that you are now getting a validation again, like the old days, so you need a valid licence. Is your licence valid without the medical?

What are you going to do if you show up without a medical and they require one?

[alloha]

Medical

Captainpluto. The med examas u had during your assessment are identical with the Saudi medical.so if u pass the assessment there is no reason to worry for your Saudi Medical. They dont ask for currency of 12 or 18 months an IR is not mandatory

[mothergoose1]

@flyboy_sg ,thanks man,il get those hours coming ,on the A320 cbt nowadays

[Flyboy_SG]

@Captpluto, you'll do two more Medicals in Saudia.

[0flyR]

Has anybody been hired recently as DEC on the 320? Can you shed a little on the process after getting hired to arriving for training, and also the training process if gotten that far.

[ClimbSequence]

Mutt,

Are you saying the conversion to GACA license is not available anymore?
From now on everybody will validate there own license from back home to fly in GACA land?

[Mohamed Haider Shah]

Thank You for the reply Mutt. I'm totally new in the PPrune. Btw do you have any advice for me being a newly FAA CPL pilot insya allah by end of this year. You can also reply me at [email protected]

Jazakallah Khair

[mutt]

Are you saying the conversion to GACA license is not available anymore?

Anyone recent hires care to answer this? The did have new hires spending their first weeks studying for the GACA ATP, but this stopped about two months ago.

So I'm assuming that they have gone back to validations.

[alloha]

Mutt , your assumption is correct. The last group with a GACA ATPL or CPL exam were the guys that started on March. Furthermore FO's with ATPL in their possession now receive GACA ATPL instead of CPL.

PS FO's without ATPL in their possession have to take the GACA CPL written exam

[ClimbSequence]

Interesting how this have changed so quickly in the Kingdom.

As far as I understand the B744 are leaving, what is going to happen with the B748? Especially as the B777F are now coming?
And the embraer??? Are they leaving too???

[mothergoose1]

@alloha do direct hire a320 f/o with icao cpl license only have to give full of cpl or just the law paper to convert to gaca cpl?

[alloha]

Mothergoose i can only make an assumption and say that all you have to do is to give just the GACA exam which is based 100% on the FAA cpl i can't imagine anything else

[N1 Limit]

Hi there
I'd like to know with 2500 hours on narrow and widebody jet but without ATP Saudi could hire me?
Around 1800 hours on the 737 NG and 500+/- hours on the 767

[omis]

Whats the best type to get hired on now at Saudia? is it better to wait and see when the new types come and go for those if eligible? or get in now DEC? Im guessing once your in its impossible to move types for at least 8-12 years, unless your type is phased out...

[polax52]

omis- Your assumptions are correct regarding changing fleet once in.

You will have no real choice but to accept the fleet which you're offered. Shorthaul there is only the A320 though, if that's what you experience reflects. Longhaul it'll either be 777, 787 or A330. For making money the 777 is the best for the time being. In the distant future it could become the 787.