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Old 7th Oct 2008, 16:25
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So thats the prob u guyz are all under the influence of articles in the paper

They make you believe anything ahahahahah !!!!

Think how this infos came to Bahrain ????!!!!!

And by the way the thread is to talk about the problem in Ayla not that 2 bahrainis were questionned by CID

.Aero thank you for respecting the topic and next time be aware that ATPL is Airline Transport Pilot License " AIRLINE TRANSPORT " so if their are no large transport aircrafts there is a prob !!
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Yes, thread drift ,

mafemukh earlier on in this thread ellicited (in politico spin talk) to the real problems in the company. And I quote

" I reached a stage where there were too many differences in vision and perceptions to continue. "

In other words .. the CEO did not, and possibly will not, agree that he is WRONG, against the best advice of serious, experienced professionals who work with him.

Mafemukh.. not the first time my friend.

The students who dismissed other staff who left(for many reasons), in the recent past by being disrespectful on this forum should hang their heads in shame. You had neither the experience or indeed intelligence to make your assumptions.

The Chickens are coming home to roost, if "company men" are leaving, its looking bad.
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Devil Pilot,

the fact that it is reported that 2 pilots were questioned about flying in forbidden areas, possibly brings in to question the flying supervision and briefing given by the Ayla Flight School.
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OK guyz what are the solutions and advices that you could give to our cadets !!!
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Devil Pilot,

Two options really;

1. Talk to the Management at Ayla as a student body, listing your grievances and demanding improvements.

2. Look at the financial implications of leaving. Talk to Gulf Air / Bahrain Air / BDB about other acceptable training options.

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gilderoy lockhart,

Thank you mate ,

But when you have a management that always says " yes great idea DONE let's do it " but nothing happens...Meeting and Meeting all the time same ****

Anyway, Aylas management will be in Bahrain to meet GF and BDB
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Guys,
Get ready for the show, as I’ve heard Marwan is coming to Bahrain this coming Saturday to meet with BDB & GF.AIR, guess with whom…??? With Mark Murphy!!!!!!!!
He wants to cover himself by asking Mark Murphy to come over…no need to do that Marwan… probably you just about to wake up…
BDB, GF.AIR and even Bahrain Air are aware about all of the situation at Ayla…
Mark, you are a gentle & I do respect you
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Good luck… [/FONT]
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Ayla in Bahrain

Anyway, Aylas management will be in Bahrain to meet GF and BDB
Why? What on earth is that going to solve? The problems at Ayla are self-induced. Shouldn't they be focusing on their current customers?, Their self sponsored cadets who have paid $80,000+ for a service their failing to deliver professionally, and on time?

Maybe it's time to get out your training agreement out (if they even bothered to produce one) and make sure they are delivering on their promises!

I think what gilderoy lockhart suggested would be the best way forward. If you've not already formed a student body, do so today. If you do consider jumping ship, make sure all your ground school hours and flight time, dual or otherwise have been documented in personal logbooks. You might be able to have these credited at FTOs elsewhere if you decide to move.
 
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.Aero thank you for your advice !!!

What would you do ?
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One guy who could sort this out is the previous COO of Ayla and AFT MM. If the present CEO would step back and let him come in and address the problems, things would be much better!

I haven't met anyone who has a bad word for him!
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next time be aware that ATPL is Airline Transport Pilot License " AIRLINE TRANSPORT " so if their are no large transport aircrafts there is a prob !!
First of all the A in ATPL stands for AIR and not AIRLINE and second I am an ATPL pilot, I have flown for an airline, doing what would be called "part 121" in the US or "RPT" in Australia and the aircraft (not aircrafts) I used were not that big... actually there is an airline in the US using single engine piston airplanes.

Hmmm... maybe the "prob" is when somobody wants to give a lecture without knowing the subject
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Quite correct,

And there is no letter S in the word "licence" .

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Old 8th Oct 2008, 17:16
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I'm in Michigan, Guys!!

Hey Mr. Aviation,
1. I am no longer an Ayla employee.
2. I am not going to Bahrain with Marwan to meet anyone.
Mark

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Hi Mafemukh,

maybe the other MM then!
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Greetings!

Hi Mafemukh

Sorry to hear what happened. Take care - enjoy the Harley!
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hey you Mafemukh,

1) i said as I HAVE HEARD....
2) Its much much better if your not going with him...and am hoping NOT
3) BDB & GF.Air, they are aware of everything and they got copies of marwan's email's which was sent to the cadets as well...

4) Mark, everybody at Ayla knew that u was the best including my self..and you have your name and reputation in GCC because of thus students, please do not destroy it by going and stand with someone u already know that his WRONG...
you have tried with im,head of training tried as well, never worked...
he is ready to listen to thus 2 sisters which they have 0 knowledge in the Aviation and Ignore the experience once


Mark, Am sorry if i said something was wrong, but this is Pprune mate...a minute u hear somthing, the next minutes you will be reading it at this web site..

sorry once again..
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Old 8th Oct 2008, 19:53
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Blimey ,

Are you a politician? I have not seen this level of sycophancy since Blair and Mandleson "hit it off"

Calm down dear
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Old 8th Oct 2008, 22:12
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Goneeast, the man is free to say whatever he wants and he is 100% right ... no need to give political examples as a comparison ...

Now please, lets hear more Mr Aviation!!
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Old 9th Oct 2008, 05:39
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And there is no letter S in the word "licence" .
And there's no letter U in color, and no extraneous ME in program.
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Yes, he is certainly entitled t say what he wants, doesnt mean that it sounds any the less like @rse kissing though. Personally, I'm a fan of Klubman, cos he makes a smashing shepards pie.

Back to the point though, Does anyone know the actual purpose of the meeting between the CEO and others in Bahrain? He always seems to be there anyway, so is this meeting any different?

It seems like a few schools are finding funding hard to come by at the moment, so if you do intend bailing out, keep your ears open.
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