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The million dollar question.
OK, its the year 2013. After competing against the 12 other low cost regional airlines in the Gulf, Gulf Air is still losing millions per month. What will, or should happen to Mr.Majali and Gulf Air?
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Upgrades on ERJ
Some points on command upgrade:
1) after successful completion of command assessment and being "promoted" to the Erj, do we undergo a Captain's Training with a RHS qualification? Or just a regular co-pilot's type rating with a GF promise of upgrading?
2) Company policy of at least 3 years before changing fleet as CP. The jungle jet is below 55tons, so this "upgrade" serves only to fly another Erj.
3) How much is the bond and for how long? If the type rating is for FO with a subsequent CP course means you'll be bonded again?
1) after successful completion of command assessment and being "promoted" to the Erj, do we undergo a Captain's Training with a RHS qualification? Or just a regular co-pilot's type rating with a GF promise of upgrading?
2) Company policy of at least 3 years before changing fleet as CP. The jungle jet is below 55tons, so this "upgrade" serves only to fly another Erj.
3) How much is the bond and for how long? If the type rating is for FO with a subsequent CP course means you'll be bonded again?
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...a welcome rumour indeed. if this guy decided to cancel all the a330 orders and future b787 orders, this is tantamount to destroying gf...merely the completion of what hogan, dosé, and naff set out to do....all against the bahrain vision 2030. he may have had some good plans and intentions but bringing in his friends from royal jordanian simply reeked of crony-ism and more of the same cr@p that gf does not need.
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...a welcome rumour indeed
Don't forget that Mumtalakat has been 100% supported the new strategy plan. Is not CEO options anymore is Government commitment, either this or shut the airline down. They were very clear during last meeting. In 2010 they have to cut looses down up to 50%. Home work...new network, cancel orders, Regional Jets, narrow bodies, keep few big buses and etc...
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Brassplate this is the first time i agree with you cause that is exactly spot on. He not only wants to get a coffin for Gulf Air, but wants to make sure he puts the nails in too.
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Mumtalakat has to be more long term in their vision.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate
for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.
Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate
for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
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How true,its not often that Brassplate finds support but in my opinion his post is insightful to say the least.Majali is steadily chipping away at gulfair.Everyone is talking about how many aircraft we will have in 12months from now but has anyone asked how many we will have 2years down the line.Anyone can make a quick profit on paper by rapidly downsizing but is that the answer?I believe what Majali is doing is exactly what Dose wanted to do....the idea was rubbish then and it is rubbish today.Mr Majali has support in high places but in my opinion i feel it will soon be a case of "the kings new clothes"but by the time it reaches that stage i fear it will be too late for gulfair as it will have been swallowed up by the swarm of low cost carriers in the middle east.Such a shame.
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Mumtalakat has to be more long term in their vision.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate
for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.
Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate
for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
there are some calculations that the airline should make before ordering the emb....
but what is the regional jets dont arrive till 2013.. that means
the plan would take 6 more years...............
lets just hope that the plan should be a little modified.. because GF is not RJ.. the airline has its own reputation ( which is greatly declining)..... my question is.. that if the 3 years well pass and the airline would get back in making profit.. then what would the airline do?? keep those regional jets ? just sell them for a cheap price after using them for like 3 years? and why does the airline needs those emb? arnt the 320s enough?
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Mumtalakat has to be more long term in their vision.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.
Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
Hogan was heard commenting in an interview on the benefits of one of the biggest orders Etihad made, saying, "Etihad is now benefiting from deliveries made 18 months ago".
Gulf Air has to see beyond next week or next month or even next year when they brainstorm their strategies. At the moment, Gulf Air can not even see it's own feet.
If they keep on bringing in new CEOs, the first thing these guys do is look at the situation and act on a knee jerk reaction to solve the problem without considering the history of the airline, the future strategies already in place from a national view, the surrounding competition, the consequences on unemployment, in other words the profound medium to long term effects this will all have on Bahrain.
If he cancels orders, there is penalties to consider and you cannot 'cancel a cancellation'. Why not keep the orders until the last possible moment until the dust settles and it is easier to assess the company's circumstances? Have a 'wait and see' approach? What happens if there was a great need when the time came? It's too late to order then. You can always sell order slots.
His solution is to bring in Royal Jordanian E-Jets. I agree with brassplate
for once. My exact sentiments, it reeks of cronyism. Enough said.Gulf Air should now go ALL OUT. They should be ordering the best aircraft, with the best IFE. They already have the best in-flight service, the best morale amongst GCC cabin crew, the best training and safety standards, the best and free-est country in the Gulf, GF has the best cultural history, the best network..so why the hell not the BEST AIRLINE?
My stipends worth.
there are some calculations that the airline should make before ordering the emb....
but what is the regional jets dont arrive till 2013.. that means
the plan would take 6 more years...............
lets just hope that the plan would be a little modified.. because GF is not RJ.. the airline has its own reputation ( which is greatly declining)..... my question is.. that if the 3 years well pass and the airline would get back in making profit.. then what would the airline do?? keep those regional jets ? just sell them for a cheap price after using them for like 3 years? and why does the airline needs those emb? arnt the 320s enough?
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olbie. you are right. note one of my previous posts.
but we are pilots. so we favour your first option.
in any case, having an airline will be an uphill battle for bahrain.
go majali's way ie embraers for gf, not only will the fall from gf's former heights be accentuated but gf will also be the laughing stock of the region and most definitely loyal customers.
whichever way they take, i would rather take my chances on rebuilding a reputation of former glories than be a part of a pathetic general aviation operation using the gf logo.
the jones's do what they do because they CAN. bahrain tries to keep up at great cost that it can not afford, but persists to keep up. bahrain air does not help the issue, like not enough butter over too much bread.
gentlemen, no country is rich enough to run an airline badly. airlines have a knack of humbling the great and mighty. bahrain is neither rich nor mighty. tis time to rethink even the current strategy because it is a strategy which only delays the inevitable, a slow and painful death. offer all gf slots and routes to any one of the neighbours. the up side is bahrainis and everyone in bahrain will fly on newer and safer aircraft to more places than gf can ever offer. swallow that bahraini pride, save that little money bahrain has and let the big airlines operate for you.
gentlemen, no country is rich enough to run an airline badly. airlines have a knack of humbling the great and mighty. bahrain is neither rich nor mighty. tis time to rethink even the current strategy because it is a strategy which only delays the inevitable, a slow and painful death. offer all gf slots and routes to any one of the neighbours. the up side is bahrainis and everyone in bahrain will fly on newer and safer aircraft to more places than gf can ever offer. swallow that bahraini pride, save that little money bahrain has and let the big airlines operate for you.
The first choice means big orders and nice routes but huge losses.
go majali's way ie embraers for gf, not only will the fall from gf's former heights be accentuated but gf will also be the laughing stock of the region and most definitely loyal customers.
whichever way they take, i would rather take my chances on rebuilding a reputation of former glories than be a part of a pathetic general aviation operation using the gf logo.
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its realy becoming a joke now.....
one day it one thing the next its another...
managment dont know what the plan is, it keeps changing every other day.
no one will tell u whats gonna happen, simply because they dont know.
one day it one thing the next its another...
managment dont know what the plan is, it keeps changing every other day.
no one will tell u whats gonna happen, simply because they dont know.