Gulf Air Developments
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I want to smoke what LNAV VNAV - has been smoking!
Ion: SPOT ON MATE!
MORALE HIGH, seriously? I'm guessing that LNAV VNAV - is one of the recent command upgrades, living on cloud 9.
Other than that I can only see people that are looking at greener pastures, Bahrainis and expats alike.
As for Landflap: some talented f/o's have been failing the command interviews, that with a little bit of tweaking would have made excellent captains. Guys with a proven track record as f/o and great marks on their assessment flights. Yet everything rides on that interview. Wouldn't one rather upgrade someone that you've known for years with a proven track record, that knows all the routes and procedures (and maybe needs a little guidance/training) than someone you didn't even bother to SIM CHECK? This narrow minded vision of our management is leaving a wake of demoralised and insulted F/o's behind it. Again with zero accountability to answer for.
Now it's just waiting for the next wave of resignations.
Happy landings,
FORCE
Ion: SPOT ON MATE!
MORALE HIGH, seriously? I'm guessing that LNAV VNAV - is one of the recent command upgrades, living on cloud 9.
Other than that I can only see people that are looking at greener pastures, Bahrainis and expats alike.
As for Landflap: some talented f/o's have been failing the command interviews, that with a little bit of tweaking would have made excellent captains. Guys with a proven track record as f/o and great marks on their assessment flights. Yet everything rides on that interview. Wouldn't one rather upgrade someone that you've known for years with a proven track record, that knows all the routes and procedures (and maybe needs a little guidance/training) than someone you didn't even bother to SIM CHECK? This narrow minded vision of our management is leaving a wake of demoralised and insulted F/o's behind it. Again with zero accountability to answer for.
Now it's just waiting for the next wave of resignations.
Happy landings,
FORCE
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From: Far away from Idiots
Time and Time again, we come to the same topic.....yeah you guessed it.....incompetent management and poor planning....
ION you are spot on mate.
. And Lnav what destinations are you talking about. Is it Mishad or Trivanderum or what? Even if they do, they still are going to be day trips and turn arounds so you wont be so short of pilots.
We are short of pilots cause many of them left in the last 10 weeks and many more are following.
ION you are spot on mate.
. And Lnav what destinations are you talking about. Is it Mishad or Trivanderum or what? Even if they do, they still are going to be day trips and turn arounds so you wont be so short of pilots.We are short of pilots cause many of them left in the last 10 weeks and many more are following.
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From: UK
Aeroforce : If you read both my posts 5202 & 5204 , you might see that we are in agreement and also identify the very fine line I allude to. If GF have a pilot shortage, of course, they will seek to promote from within. All airlines do that. However, a slight lowering of standards is not the way forward. The maintaining of high selection standards is vital but because the casualties will be higher in number, bad vibes start to evolve. My point, in the earlier posts, was that the same high standards of selection should be applied to the DEC area. From other posts, it looks, sadly, that it was not. The result is a very low morale situation developing.
My experience has shown that there is a core division of highly admirable First Officers who do a fantastic job and have excellent track records with long service, BUT, when it comes down to the wire, make poor command decisions or worry the assessors for different reasons. Motivation, personal qualities etc. Often, the Command interviewers will be left with quizical concerns. Most wide re-action I ever encountered was a , sort of, 'Well, that was a surprise, eh ? Didn't go too well ! Thought he would have walked it ! ' etc etc. One guy with a fabulous track record but a slight tendancy to get very easily irritated actually, when pushed, threatened to lamp all of us on the Board & walked out in a big hissy fit.
Again, all airlines have this going on & I share a little of my experience .
What GF must do is keep the standards high for both DEC recruitment and upgrade. Very fine line and seriously cosequential if you get it wrong.
My experience has shown that there is a core division of highly admirable First Officers who do a fantastic job and have excellent track records with long service, BUT, when it comes down to the wire, make poor command decisions or worry the assessors for different reasons. Motivation, personal qualities etc. Often, the Command interviewers will be left with quizical concerns. Most wide re-action I ever encountered was a , sort of, 'Well, that was a surprise, eh ? Didn't go too well ! Thought he would have walked it ! ' etc etc. One guy with a fabulous track record but a slight tendancy to get very easily irritated actually, when pushed, threatened to lamp all of us on the Board & walked out in a big hissy fit.
Again, all airlines have this going on & I share a little of my experience .
What GF must do is keep the standards high for both DEC recruitment and upgrade. Very fine line and seriously cosequential if you get it wrong.
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From: cyprus
Welcome to gulf air never change, this was the best company to work for unfortunate get screwed within , same same sh. T , and they still in gf but out of management(we know who we talking about they can't get a job outside Bahrain ) ,move on,think tailwind (easterly man) and you will never regrett. good luck for those choose to stay ,
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From: Cyprus
Oh c'mon Che ; Aren't you gonna tell us who that one applicant is ? Let's open a new thread; "Who's that Guy ?". Suggestions might be really amusing. No, not me. Mind you, if they extend the retirement age to 75 I am back in the ball-park. I better write to the Minister of Visas. Ok, Ok,........... forget it !
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From: UK
Got to look up the meaning of big words like that first ! Is 'joking -apart' allowed ? Loads of bitterness around, mate, if you think about it. Replies will always reflect that. Recruitment position has never been clear because left hands have no idea what right hands are doing. I was, once in the Office and heard my Fleet Capt telling someone on the phone that we were not recruiting and all positions had been filled. Picked up Flight Mag on the way home & a massive advert for pilots was amongst the back pages ! Good luck if you need a six month or one year contract.
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From: Sand Pitt
Bahrain's Gulf Air to buy 10 CSeries jets, Bombardier confirms
Struggling Mideast airline currently uses Airbus
The Canadian Press Posted: Jun 04, 2013 1:58 PM ET Last Updated: Jun 04, 2013 1:56 PM ET
Gulf Air currently uses Airbus jets like this Airbus 320 but has put in an order for 10 CS100 jets, part of Bombardier's much-anticipated CSeries fleet of aircraft. The CS100 is to have its first flight by the end of June and become commercially available within a year. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters)
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Bombardier has identified Bahrain's Gulf Air as one of the customers for its CSeries, a new generation of commercial jet that will compete with some of the smaller planes offered by Airbus and Boeing.
The Middle East carrier ordered 10 CSeries CS100 aircraft in June 2011 but declined to be identified until Tuesday. It also has options for six additional planes.
The CS100, which has 110 to 125 seats, is to have its first flight by the end of June and is expected to enter into commercial service next year.
Bombardier announced last month that it has completed the last round of safety tests needed for the CSeries jest to get approval from Transport Canada.
Gulf Air currently operates a fleet of 26 Airbus planes but said Tuesday in a joint news release with the Montreal-based company that it's working with Bombardier Aerospace to ensure the CSeries meets the airline's goals.
The money-losing national carrier is focusing on high-yield routes that connect Bahrain businesses with regional markets.
It has has laid off more than 1,000 employees, or 15 per cent of its staff, and cut four routes since January.
Bombardier has received commitments for 388 CSeries, including 145 firm orders from eight customers.
Bombardier says it has tripled its commercial aircraft presence in the Middle East and Africa over the past four years.
Struggling Mideast airline currently uses Airbus
The Canadian Press Posted: Jun 04, 2013 1:58 PM ET Last Updated: Jun 04, 2013 1:56 PM ET
Gulf Air currently uses Airbus jets like this Airbus 320 but has put in an order for 10 CS100 jets, part of Bombardier's much-anticipated CSeries fleet of aircraft. The CS100 is to have its first flight by the end of June and become commercially available within a year. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters) Related Stories
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Bombardier has identified Bahrain's Gulf Air as one of the customers for its CSeries, a new generation of commercial jet that will compete with some of the smaller planes offered by Airbus and Boeing.
The Middle East carrier ordered 10 CSeries CS100 aircraft in June 2011 but declined to be identified until Tuesday. It also has options for six additional planes.
The CS100, which has 110 to 125 seats, is to have its first flight by the end of June and is expected to enter into commercial service next year.
Bombardier announced last month that it has completed the last round of safety tests needed for the CSeries jest to get approval from Transport Canada.
Gulf Air currently operates a fleet of 26 Airbus planes but said Tuesday in a joint news release with the Montreal-based company that it's working with Bombardier Aerospace to ensure the CSeries meets the airline's goals.
The money-losing national carrier is focusing on high-yield routes that connect Bahrain businesses with regional markets.
It has has laid off more than 1,000 employees, or 15 per cent of its staff, and cut four routes since January.
Bombardier has received commitments for 388 CSeries, including 145 firm orders from eight customers.
Bombardier says it has tripled its commercial aircraft presence in the Middle East and Africa over the past four years.
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From: London
So, that was all six month's ago. Has the aircraft flown yet ? Are they on schedule for production (later this year-2013-nearly over) ? and when is Gf expecting to start receiving ? But, positive news is healthy reading and
we sure as hell wish this, once mighty carrier, a brighter future.
we sure as hell wish this, once mighty carrier, a brighter future.
