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Dreadful. Can't help it, but I bet Ironbutts will be on here very soon to defend the new policy. I agree with Gordomac. Damn shame to treat folk and others like him with close on 20 years service. The slide continues & this HR guy announces that he is "pleased " to announce "improved" benefits.Another shining example of how this awfully run, once admired airline will not see out the New Year. Shameful.
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Cripes, Gulfair "improving benefits" by taking them away.Not on the same page with that one. I believe that Staff Travel is regarded as a 'perk' rather than a benefit. Indeed, it is a perk which, contractually, may be revised or taken away, at anytime, with or without notice. Once an employee retires, it may be seen as a retirement benefit and one that should not be interfered with. A sort of 'earned' benefit. Legal opinion might be useful. My 'A' level in GP Law (General Principles) is not enough to serve a qualified opinion. In any case, we know that GF has no respect for Bahrain Labour Laws.. Hurtful though it is , Gordomac, you might just have to take this further blow on the chin, To those still in this sorry airline, the message on this aspect must be clear. Do not hang in their for well earned retirement benefits. Like Gordomac, you will not get them & even the 20 year Vets, be wary.Finally, proper airlines like BA & SIA would never dream of removing benefits earned for long service.
Thanks Slow & Landflap. I have yet to see the revised policy at my Nicosia Office (well, they will probably deny me entry anyway as a former employee with no benefits !).LF, don't be too hard on IB. A good egg, fabbo instructor &, actually, I prefer guys like IB on my team.Ah well. Will have to go to LGW with Monarch, economy, like everyone else. At least it will be a firm seat & I can wear me jeans & Nairobi T shirt ! Happy New year everyone. Well, everyone except HR !
Any tattoos like IB yet as well?
Right, thats it. No more GF Staff travel but I am using my Cyprus Bus Pass to come over to Paphos. Got a tatoo today. It says. "Shame on you Gulfair".won't say where I had it placed though !
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IB57. A public apology for past rants. I tend to shoot first & ask questions later & am a fearless defender of others, less fortunate than me or whom I think have been wronged. You continue to be controlled, diplomatic, courteous & appropriate. My New Year Resolution is to follow your example. A very happy new year, Sir.................er, now, can I borrow BD50 please ?
Slowjet. We can square this one away. Your inclination is correct. I just pulled mine out ( Staff Travel Guide to Benefits & Leaving letter that is ) !
Guide states quite clearly that " Reduced Rate travel benefits are considered a privilage and not a right and are subject to review by the Management at any time ". Moreover, my leaving lettter also states that "All travel benefits may be changed/withdrawn without prior notice ".
Thats it then ! Funny how the opening statement in my letter states "In recognition of your long service with Gulfair............" A nice little gift to be taken away seconds after you leave. Perhaps the costs of running the scheme outweigh the income. I always thought that some income for what would otherwise be an empty, non revenue seat was better than nothing. All my attempts to contact HR have been rejected ( silly excuses , like, "Not in Office"....."Mailbox full""....."Postmaster does not recognise address"...etc. Oh, and phone attempts are a joke. Held for ages & then abruptly hung up. Does remind me of my demise. After the stitch up of all time, closing down in the pink palace, no-one could be bothered to see me. I could see them though. Lots of red faces but no guts. All, suddenly, at meetings ! Rotten shame eh? Anyone approaching me for my thoughts on employment with GF get an appropriate response ! And, to end the rant, I pulled mine out again (10 year length of Service Certificate, that is ) and we are having a New Year BBQ this afternoon where I will entertain with a Certificate Burning Ceremony. Thanks GF. It WILL give me closure. Oh, not done yet, Well said LF. Admirable humility. I have applied for the CEO job. IB will be Deputy CEO. All our mates will fill other jobs & I will be bringing back some stunners from the past (no, not cabin crew) & our first, collective roll will be to re-instate Staff Travel with ENHANCED benefits for Life. We will purchase three clapped out 707's, one DC10 and one 747 ( I will take all kickbacks for the purchase) to be used for the establishment of a innovative ,all new, STAFF TRAVEL AIRLINE. The fleet will be used purely for staff travel not only by GF employees but by other airline staff. I will be CEO of that too but IB will be CP, DFO & Head of Recruitment. Ok ok, it's all going to my head. Cyprus, today, for the burning ceremony is bathed in blue skies, 25c. Gentle Mediterraneam breeze & I sense real closure. Happy New Year to all buddies. I'm done.( Blimey, phone going mad, it's Bjorn again !).
Guide states quite clearly that " Reduced Rate travel benefits are considered a privilage and not a right and are subject to review by the Management at any time ". Moreover, my leaving lettter also states that "All travel benefits may be changed/withdrawn without prior notice ".
Thats it then ! Funny how the opening statement in my letter states "In recognition of your long service with Gulfair............" A nice little gift to be taken away seconds after you leave. Perhaps the costs of running the scheme outweigh the income. I always thought that some income for what would otherwise be an empty, non revenue seat was better than nothing. All my attempts to contact HR have been rejected ( silly excuses , like, "Not in Office"....."Mailbox full""....."Postmaster does not recognise address"...etc. Oh, and phone attempts are a joke. Held for ages & then abruptly hung up. Does remind me of my demise. After the stitch up of all time, closing down in the pink palace, no-one could be bothered to see me. I could see them though. Lots of red faces but no guts. All, suddenly, at meetings ! Rotten shame eh? Anyone approaching me for my thoughts on employment with GF get an appropriate response ! And, to end the rant, I pulled mine out again (10 year length of Service Certificate, that is ) and we are having a New Year BBQ this afternoon where I will entertain with a Certificate Burning Ceremony. Thanks GF. It WILL give me closure. Oh, not done yet, Well said LF. Admirable humility. I have applied for the CEO job. IB will be Deputy CEO. All our mates will fill other jobs & I will be bringing back some stunners from the past (no, not cabin crew) & our first, collective roll will be to re-instate Staff Travel with ENHANCED benefits for Life. We will purchase three clapped out 707's, one DC10 and one 747 ( I will take all kickbacks for the purchase) to be used for the establishment of a innovative ,all new, STAFF TRAVEL AIRLINE. The fleet will be used purely for staff travel not only by GF employees but by other airline staff. I will be CEO of that too but IB will be CP, DFO & Head of Recruitment. Ok ok, it's all going to my head. Cyprus, today, for the burning ceremony is bathed in blue skies, 25c. Gentle Mediterraneam breeze & I sense real closure. Happy New Year to all buddies. I'm done.( Blimey, phone going mad, it's Bjorn again !).
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Gordomac
Happy belated New Year!
You are fortunate to be out of here, as for the Staff Travel, not much use really, probably cheaper and better on Easy J. Do they go Cyprus?
Cheers
You are fortunate to be out of here, as for the Staff Travel, not much use really, probably cheaper and better on Easy J. Do they go Cyprus?
Cheers
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40&80 Wishful thinking as I am sure he is too busy trying to keep his throne to worry about retired ex- pats.
Anybody know why the title Emir was no longer good enough for him?
Anybody know why the title Emir was no longer good enough for him?
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Latest news on the Sales side at GF is that they are likely to outsource most sales activities in London to a General Sales Agent (GSA) and are in the process of appointing one. I would have thought that the current GF staff would have to be transferred across under the TUPE rules. They could retain as few as three staff - Country Manager, Accountant, Airport Manager. Seems like madness to me in what must still be their flagship long-haul route. Engineered I understand by Head of Commercial who went down the same route (outsourcing) at Malev. The airline continues to make increasingly stupid decisions.
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wapses - you are correct, most outstations will be under GSA as that is what the CCO did at Malev before they realised what a mess and booted him out (to GF).
Won't GF ever learn? Few years back they had many GSAs in all sorts of countries and they paid so much commission to these guys that the GSA made more money than GF and held GF to ransom when they wanted more commission!! Of course this is before the scandals of some GSA owned by GF staff or kickbacks et etc!!!
So after a few years of getting rid of GSA and having GF staff (on salaries) they are reverting back.....please someone put this airline out of its misery.....please!
Won't GF ever learn? Few years back they had many GSAs in all sorts of countries and they paid so much commission to these guys that the GSA made more money than GF and held GF to ransom when they wanted more commission!! Of course this is before the scandals of some GSA owned by GF staff or kickbacks et etc!!!
So after a few years of getting rid of GSA and having GF staff (on salaries) they are reverting back.....please someone put this airline out of its misery.....please!
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as usual gf continues to fly to these war torn destinations hoping to make a buck out of misery.
3 000+ 'killed' in South Sudan massacre | News24
3 000+ 'killed' in South Sudan massacre | News24
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HEADLINE:
brassplate outdoes himself by reaching a record low in cheap-shots.
How does Gulf Air's linking the World's newest country to the rest of the Globe tie it to atrocities? How does it help probigate or profit from misery in a continent where misery is sadly all to common? What is Gulf Air's role in a conflict between rival tribes?
Air transportation plays a vital role in the development of countries and economies. Cutting off people from the rest of the World, keeping them in the dark is not really the way to keep them from slaughtering each other.
I might agree with you if a government with which Gulf Air has dealings with was involved in this massacre, but there is no evidence of that either. As I said, another cheap-shot in which you, brassplate, are evently trying to capitalize on the misery of some the planet's most unfortunate people to spite a company which you dislike.
brassplate outdoes himself by reaching a record low in cheap-shots.
How does Gulf Air's linking the World's newest country to the rest of the Globe tie it to atrocities? How does it help probigate or profit from misery in a continent where misery is sadly all to common? What is Gulf Air's role in a conflict between rival tribes?
Air transportation plays a vital role in the development of countries and economies. Cutting off people from the rest of the World, keeping them in the dark is not really the way to keep them from slaughtering each other.
I might agree with you if a government with which Gulf Air has dealings with was involved in this massacre, but there is no evidence of that either. As I said, another cheap-shot in which you, brassplate, are evently trying to capitalize on the misery of some the planet's most unfortunate people to spite a company which you dislike.
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Gulf Air S12 Operation Changes as of*28DEC11
by JL. Update at 0940GMT 28DEC11
As per 28DEC11 GDS timetable and inventory display, Gulf Airs initial changes for Summer 2012 operation as follows.
So far only service to Middle East, Africa and West Asia has seen selective changes, which may see further adjustments in coming weeks.
Bahrain Aden Embraer E170 replaces Airbus A320, 2 weekly
Bahrain Dhaka Increases from 11 to 13 weekly (A320/330)
Bahrain Kabul Increases from 5 to 6 weekly (A320
Bahrain Kathmandu Increases from 12 to 15 weekly (14 weekly A320 + 1 weekly A330)
Bahrain Khartoum Increases from 7 to 12 weekly (E190 + A319 + A320)
Bahrain Larnaca Increases from 6 to 8 weekly (E170/190)
Bahrain Madinah Increases from 5 weekly in S11 to 7 weekly in S12 (A320/330)
Bahrain Riyadh Increases from 14 to 16 weekly (A330/340)
Bahrain Sanaa Increases from 3 to 4 weekly with schedule changes
More updates:
Gulf Air Postpones New Saudi & South Sudan Service*Launch
by JL
Update at 0920GMT 28DEC11
As per 28DEC11 GDS timetable and inventory display, Gulf Air is postponing the launch of new service to 3 Saudi cities, as well as Juba in South Sudan.
Service to Taif and Gassim are postponed by at least 4 weeks to mid-Feb 2012, while Yanbu postponed by 6 weeks to the start of Summer 2012 season. Planned service to Juba is postponed by 4 months to June 2012.
Latest launch date and operational schedule as follows:
Bahrain Taif eff 15FEB12 (Previously to start from 15JAN12), note the operational day and schedule changes
GF189 BAH1105 1330TIF 319 x126
GF190 TIF1415 1615BAH 319 x126
Bahrain Gassim eff 21FEB12 (Previously to start from 17JAN12)
GF181 BAH0215 0345ELQ 319 2
GF181 BAH0215 0345ELQ E70 56
GF182 ELQ0430 0555BAH 319 2
GF182 ELQ0430 0555BAH E70 56
Bahrain Yanbu eff 26MAR12 (Previously to start from 15FEB12)
GF185 BAH1055 1330YNB 319 134
GF186 YNB1415 1620BAH 319 134
Bahrain Juba eff 03JUN12 (Previously to start from 03FEB12)
GF721 BAH1120 1630JUB E90 257
GF722 JUB1715 2155BAH E90 257
by JL. Update at 0940GMT 28DEC11
As per 28DEC11 GDS timetable and inventory display, Gulf Airs initial changes for Summer 2012 operation as follows.
So far only service to Middle East, Africa and West Asia has seen selective changes, which may see further adjustments in coming weeks.
Bahrain Aden Embraer E170 replaces Airbus A320, 2 weekly
Bahrain Dhaka Increases from 11 to 13 weekly (A320/330)
Bahrain Kabul Increases from 5 to 6 weekly (A320
Bahrain Kathmandu Increases from 12 to 15 weekly (14 weekly A320 + 1 weekly A330)
Bahrain Khartoum Increases from 7 to 12 weekly (E190 + A319 + A320)
Bahrain Larnaca Increases from 6 to 8 weekly (E170/190)
Bahrain Madinah Increases from 5 weekly in S11 to 7 weekly in S12 (A320/330)
Bahrain Riyadh Increases from 14 to 16 weekly (A330/340)
Bahrain Sanaa Increases from 3 to 4 weekly with schedule changes
More updates:
Gulf Air Postpones New Saudi & South Sudan Service*Launch
by JL
Update at 0920GMT 28DEC11
As per 28DEC11 GDS timetable and inventory display, Gulf Air is postponing the launch of new service to 3 Saudi cities, as well as Juba in South Sudan.
Service to Taif and Gassim are postponed by at least 4 weeks to mid-Feb 2012, while Yanbu postponed by 6 weeks to the start of Summer 2012 season. Planned service to Juba is postponed by 4 months to June 2012.
Latest launch date and operational schedule as follows:
Bahrain Taif eff 15FEB12 (Previously to start from 15JAN12), note the operational day and schedule changes
GF189 BAH1105 1330TIF 319 x126
GF190 TIF1415 1615BAH 319 x126
Bahrain Gassim eff 21FEB12 (Previously to start from 17JAN12)
GF181 BAH0215 0345ELQ 319 2
GF181 BAH0215 0345ELQ E70 56
GF182 ELQ0430 0555BAH 319 2
GF182 ELQ0430 0555BAH E70 56
Bahrain Yanbu eff 26MAR12 (Previously to start from 15FEB12)
GF185 BAH1055 1330YNB 319 134
GF186 YNB1415 1620BAH 319 134
Bahrain Juba eff 03JUN12 (Previously to start from 03FEB12)
GF721 BAH1120 1630JUB E90 257
GF722 JUB1715 2155BAH E90 257
