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One more thing SNK, GF are working their pilots hard because of a serious lack of pilots. Its the same at QR and EY. Once they have enough guys to fly the planes things will begin to normalize. Taking away leave is not normal but due to the circumstance vis a vis crew.
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SNK, you ask why so many GF pilots are leaving to QR, I ask you, why are so many QR pilots also leaving their jobs, take a look at the QR thread, the numbers are fairly large. The reality is that almost all of these airlines have the same working conditions with the same problems. Only EK can put its head above the rest.
As for QR never getting RJs, yes there is still the chance they might also order C series. The reality is that GF is doing a smart thing by ordering these jets and you'll see more of them in Gulf airlines shortly.
The problem in this part of the world is that there are a lot of impatient and pissed off foreigners who show up expecting their lives to be exactly the way it was in Europe, no DEMANDING that their lives are exactly the same as in Europe so they go jumping from country to country until they realize its pretty much the same everywhere. And I can tell you that lots of GF pilots that have left for EK actually miss the camaraderie of the GF working environment as most of them are just numbers in that behemoth of an airline.
This part of the world is just what you make it of it, there are to many people who show up and bitch and moan about everything and think that the grass is greener on the other side, until they've checked all the sides and realize that they were pissing on their own grass the whole time and that's why it looked so brown. And most of them are raking in the cash having a ball on their days off, not taking the slightest bit of interest in the country or region they're in, feeling that they're superior to everyone, bitching and moaning, but they wouldn't dare to leave it all and go back home not for a second, frankly their attitude towards it all is very questionable.
Having said that there are plenty of great expats who have been here for years and are very much part of the community.
As for QR never getting RJs, yes there is still the chance they might also order C series. The reality is that GF is doing a smart thing by ordering these jets and you'll see more of them in Gulf airlines shortly.
The problem in this part of the world is that there are a lot of impatient and pissed off foreigners who show up expecting their lives to be exactly the way it was in Europe, no DEMANDING that their lives are exactly the same as in Europe so they go jumping from country to country until they realize its pretty much the same everywhere. And I can tell you that lots of GF pilots that have left for EK actually miss the camaraderie of the GF working environment as most of them are just numbers in that behemoth of an airline.
This part of the world is just what you make it of it, there are to many people who show up and bitch and moan about everything and think that the grass is greener on the other side, until they've checked all the sides and realize that they were pissing on their own grass the whole time and that's why it looked so brown. And most of them are raking in the cash having a ball on their days off, not taking the slightest bit of interest in the country or region they're in, feeling that they're superior to everyone, bitching and moaning, but they wouldn't dare to leave it all and go back home not for a second, frankly their attitude towards it all is very questionable.
Having said that there are plenty of great expats who have been here for years and are very much part of the community.
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Dear All,
Gulf Air has officially announced highlights of its expansion plan for the upcoming IATA Winter 2011 season of which the main highlights are as follows:
ADD - frequencies increased from 6 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
KRT - frequencies increased from 6 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
MAA - frequencies increased from daily to 9 weekly nonstop flights.
KTM - frequencies increased from 12 weekly to double daily nonstop flights.
BEY - frequencies increased from daily to 10 weekly nonstop flights.
KBL - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 weekly nonstop flights.
DXB - frequencies increased from 7 daily to 9 daily nonstop flights.
IST - frequencies increased from 5 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
AUH - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 times daily nonstop flights.
DAC - frequencies increased from 10 to 11 weekly flights.
CMB - frequencies increased from 8 to 9 weekly nonstop flights.
KWI - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 times daily nonstop flights.
For more information, please click on the news article link below:
http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA..._leadership_position_in_the_region
Gulf Air has officially announced highlights of its expansion plan for the upcoming IATA Winter 2011 season of which the main highlights are as follows:
ADD - frequencies increased from 6 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
KRT - frequencies increased from 6 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
MAA - frequencies increased from daily to 9 weekly nonstop flights.
KTM - frequencies increased from 12 weekly to double daily nonstop flights.
BEY - frequencies increased from daily to 10 weekly nonstop flights.
KBL - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 weekly nonstop flights.
DXB - frequencies increased from 7 daily to 9 daily nonstop flights.
IST - frequencies increased from 5 weekly to daily nonstop flights.
AUH - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 times daily nonstop flights.
DAC - frequencies increased from 10 to 11 weekly flights.
CMB - frequencies increased from 8 to 9 weekly nonstop flights.
KWI - frequencies increased from 4 to 5 times daily nonstop flights.
For more information, please click on the news article link below:
http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA..._leadership_position_in_the_region
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No worries...The last time they upped the schedules they never told engineering
thus there were no aircraft available when the pilots drag bagged up to departures....they call it management Jim but not as we know it.
thus there were no aircraft available when the pilots drag bagged up to departures....they call it management Jim but not as we know it.
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Heard from one of the direct entry airbus new joiners that they've been bonded for training
Furthermore they were not advised by the company beforehand about this bond On the first day in the company they were requested to sign it
Way to go GF, pilots are already here, time to screw them from the start
You should've told people about the bond during the interview:roll eyes: But of course many of them will not join in this case
Furthermore they were not advised by the company beforehand about this bond On the first day in the company they were requested to sign it Way to go GF, pilots are already here, time to screw them from the startYou should've told people about the bond during the interview:roll eyes: But of course many of them will not join in this case
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Horrific. Absolutely no hope for this third world airline. But, what do you expect when the Managers are there because of who they know rather than what they know. Tragic but true to form. What a disaster.
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Wait til u resign...
, the fun will be much greater, to give u an example, when i joined they came and picked up my boxes at my doorstep... my contract states that i am entitled......back to my doorstep, guess what, now that u resigned they will ignore the contract and send only from airport to airport....so i had to rent a truck and go pick it up myself at the airport, total cost 1000$, ok it is not much(some of u will say), but this just shows u how they are... and i agree with who u know is what make the difference in the game, not what u know and neither how good u are or how much experience u have...when people are holding the balance....it will eventually re-balance itself. Dont worry if u dont understand my last statement, u probably did very good with Gulfair management....
and have nothing to worry about LOL
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Bonded for already having a type rating?
Unacceptable!
This is why they never had many pilots show up at the interview. What I heard is no one was informed about the bond. I have confirmed this with the pilot who was there at the interview.
It would be a mistake for the pilots spending a thousand dollar to go for the interview.
Why would any one sign a bond if you are type rated on the airplane? Maybe it is for pilots from Airbus who will fly the EMBRAER and BOMBARDIER airplanes. Of course it has to be. I mean those airplanes are way of the future as many mentioned in the above posts.
WATCH OUT GUYS! IT IS MOUSE TRAP!
This is why they never had many pilots show up at the interview. What I heard is no one was informed about the bond. I have confirmed this with the pilot who was there at the interview.
It would be a mistake for the pilots spending a thousand dollar to go for the interview.
Why would any one sign a bond if you are type rated on the airplane? Maybe it is for pilots from Airbus who will fly the EMBRAER and BOMBARDIER airplanes. Of course it has to be. I mean those airplanes are way of the future as many mentioned in the above posts.
WATCH OUT GUYS! IT IS MOUSE TRAP!
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How much is the BOND?
Does anyone have the information on how much the bond is? How long?
This is for already type rated pilot.
I want to ask them in the interview but it would not seem appropriate asking questions in the interview. I want the job right now so if any one has something to share. Please do.
Thanks in advance.
This is for already type rated pilot.
I want to ask them in the interview but it would not seem appropriate asking questions in the interview. I want the job right now so if any one has something to share. Please do.
Thanks in advance.
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Sleek, c'mon, you are a professional pilot not a pussycat. If you want to ask questions at the interview, do so. Ask them lots. You do not want to wind up in a situation, unacceptable to you because you were ill-informed or not informed ? You say that you want the job. Are you sure ? Needing is one thing, wanting is another. Do your homework . A lot of us have wound up 'needing' a job but would not 'want' to go to some places. I have been on the Selection Board for a different airline & when we got a candidate who asked lots of questions, we were impressed. I also know of some dreadful companies whose 'selection staff' had no idea and deemed question askers as potential troublemakers ! I failed to get into two companies after I asked lots of questions, even some relating to political stabilty(you might want to consider that one too). With some of these dreadful companies, if you really need it & possibly want it, go ahead but do have a well manufactured exit strategy and be prepared to lose a lot. Forget bags from door to door, try....loadsa money !!!!!!
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Sleek, i know it is at least 5k maybe more, as i heard 2 years.
But this can be wrong, best thing is to ask about ANY bonds during your interview, or if you have already done it, try contacting HR regarding tho matter. As i suppose not many will be happy with such kind of surprise on their first day in the company.
Good luck!
But this can be wrong, best thing is to ask about ANY bonds during your interview, or if you have already done it, try contacting HR regarding tho matter. As i suppose not many will be happy with such kind of surprise on their first day in the company.
Good luck!
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You hit the spot Slowjet! But asking particular questions does not work with middle east airlines/companies. It used to work in first world countires before not any more. Even they are not liking job seekers asking questions.
Reason - companies and airlines are not pofiting as much as they should so they don't like us asking questions.
Slow jet , You seem to be some one with loads of experience under your belt. Keep it to yourself!
I am on pprune to enquire , find answers and share any relevant information. I will keep doing that.
SLOW JET , watch your mouth next time before you open it.
Reason - companies and airlines are not pofiting as much as they should so they don't like us asking questions.
Slow jet , You seem to be some one with loads of experience under your belt. Keep it to yourself!
I am on pprune to enquire , find answers and share any relevant information. I will keep doing that.
SLOW JET , watch your mouth next time before you open it.
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Sim not owned by GF!
SSSand , I am sure that GF owned those simulators.
Things might have changed. They never mentioned the bond or time of the bond in the interview or even through emails?
I have my application submitted to them.
Things might have changed. They never mentioned the bond or time of the bond in the interview or even through emails?
I have my application submitted to them.
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Sleek, the sims now belong to GAA and this is the reason for them to bond you, and as i think they just do not want to lose people after very short time because they will leave next door.
So if you do not want to ask questions be prepared for surprises
I would've contacted HR and ask them if there will be ANY bond upon your joining.
Good luck! See ya soon, inshalah
So if you do not want to ask questions be prepared for surprises
I would've contacted HR and ask them if there will be ANY bond upon your joining.
Good luck! See ya soon, inshalah
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rosters!
seriously when is someone going to striaghten out this rostering problem!!!!! again late roster seems the norm i guess accept it as it aint getting any beetter!
PS: a company bonding a type rated guy is a joke. a new low on the gf list
PS: a company bonding a type rated guy is a joke. a new low on the gf list
