Gulf Air Developments

[brassplate]

reasons to leave the golden chicken and bahrain
1 unprofessional treatment of pilots by hr and crew control
2 nothing to do except malls and f1 once a year
3 dangerous drivers especially on weekends
4 no real international ambitions only regional to undeveloped war zones
5 entirely local fleet managers, the mafia, who never listen to the pilots and only concerned about themselves, fat paycheque, and position
6 shiite sunni thing
7 demonstrations/riots which threaten lives of expats
8 second rate attitude towards expat pilots
9 second rate attitude even toward own local pilots depending if shiite or sunni
10 noisy shiite villages throughout the night
11 company that consistently looks for ways to screw you not help you
12 local cabbies who still try and rip you off even after their massive pay rise
13 idiot brown nosing jordanian ceo whose ideas are as small as the island
14 focus on cost cutting always on flying crews and not the real culprits, the revenue/commercial/planning departments and ceo
15.......
anyone else care to add more????

[Tziganul]

1 unprofessional treatment of pilots by hr and crew control
(What!!!!! Nah, we're all professionals!!! Professional screw ups!)
2 nothing to do except malls and f1 once a year
(Which F1 are you talking about? The one I go to goes on all year long!!!)
3 dangerous drivers especially on weekends
(THANK YOU KIND ABDULLAH FOR SENDING YOUR PEOPLE TO PARTY IN OUR BACKYEARD!!!!)
4 no real international ambitions only regional to undeveloped war zones
(I thought every destination was INTERNATIONAL!!!!)
5 entirely local fleet managers, the mafia, who never listen to the pilots and only concerned about themselves, fat paycheque, and position
(Come on!!! Making 10k bhd/month is not enough!!!! How can they feed their kids with that?!!)
6 shiite sunni thing
(i'm neither, why am I being punished!!!!?????)
7 demonstrations/riots which threaten lives of expats
(Bahrain is a peaceful country, it's the BEST country in the GCC)
8 second rate attitude towards expat pilots
(And I thought WE were from a 1st world country!!!)
9 second rate attitude even toward own local pilots depending if shiite or sunni
(Really, you mean indians are considered local?)
10 noisy shiite villages throughout the night
(Well, i'm in Juffair, that's a Saudi village and it's noisier!)
11 company that consistently looks for ways to screw you not help you
(taking away things without telling you is for your own good, they don't want you to go to jail for selling tickets and making extra money!)
12 local cabbies who still try and rip you off even after their massive pay rise
(Poor guys, I feel soooo sorry for them, just as sorry as I feel about the driving instructors!)
13 idiot brown nosing jordanian ceo whose ideas are as small as the island
(I guess the copy & paste function didn't go that well)
14 focus on cost cutting always on flying crews and not the real culprits, the revenue/commercial/planning departments and ceo
(Nooooo!!!! What will their family eat for dinner if you decrease their salary!??? you guys definitely don't have THEIR best interest at heart! shame on you!!!!)
15.......
anyone else care to add more???? yes, the next 60 years will be even better!!!!!

[John21UK]

GF 2011 interview questions

Guys/girls,

I'm a newby on this forum so go easy on me.
I've notived GF is reqruiting rated pilots and I happen to be one that meet the requirements for the EMB as an f/o. I'm currently in the UK and are very willing to move to Bahrain with family. I've read the interview thread on pprune but that goes silent after 2007 and I've read the GF careers website. Now, can anyone help me regarding the current interview process for rated pilots???

A quick PM would also be appreciated!

[flyboy328]

Tziganul: Years ago we had this expat guy who did nothing than a few Athens Flights every month and even got payed overtime. In his plentiful offtime he printed out his Threads written on pprune and presented it in the pink palace.

You really remind me of him.

By the way:

7 demonstrations/riots which threaten lives of expats
(Bahrain is a peaceful country, it's the BEST country in the GCC)

What about this and this. Oh ic they give you only GDN to read

[Tziganul]

hahahahaha flyboy328, I WISH I was only doing ATH and getting payed overtime!!! Where do I sign up!!!!?????

[Apache702]

Check this out

Bahrain Uprising: Various injuries in Karzakan area | The Pilot Network

[brassplate]

any one here wish to fly for these prestigious airlines:

iran air?
aseman?
caspian airlines?
mahan air?

any one here wish to live in these exotic, modern, civilised places:

tehran?
esfahan?
tabriz?
buscher?

if so, remain in bahrain because if the protesters have their way, the place will turn into mini iran.

[a345xxx]

"if so, remain in bahrain because if the protesters have their way, the place will turn into mini iran."

That's a real sad remark. Its going through the pains of trying to be a real democracy. Give it a chance. People in the ME are not from or in the stone ages, including those in Iran.

[Tziganul]

well one thing's for sure, if this escalades ... there will be lots of us who will want out! Not willing to stick by them while they get their democracy, and anyhow, there is NO REAL democracy out there!!! only greedy politicians, and it doesn't matter where u are in the world, they are ALL alike, we are just their slaves! Don't ever forget that!!!!

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

ps. MONEY is my RELIGION!!!! Why? Because it RULES the world!!!! and us of course!

[flyboy328]

(Bahrain is a peaceful country, it's the BEST country in the GCC)

and now?

[slowjet]

a345xxx

You might want to ask that of the family of the woman still, today, facing execution by stoning to death.

[slowjet]

a345xxx

You might want to ask that of the Iranian family of the woman still, today, facing execution by stoning to death.

[Tziganul]

Seems to me that Global Consciousness is rising! That always implies some sort of "transition" (pains and sorrows) before true freedom can be achieve, just like the West went trough, where people have payed with their lives so that their kids and their children's kids can be their own master and not the puppet of someone else. However, the same Freedom we seeks is detrimental to humans, why, because as Machiavelis put it, "the human nature is evil!!!" envy will always destroy what we build, and as long as we (everyone!!!) envy what our brother/sister/friend have, AND hate them for having it and we don't, my friends, there is no hope!!!!

That being said, there is GREAT hope out there for GULF AIR!!! MILAN AND GENEVA NEXT MONTH!!!

[brassplate]

That's a real sad remark. Its going through the pains of trying to be a real democracy. Give it a chance. People in the ME are not from or in the stone ages, including those in Iran.

a345xx screw democracy when the majority will vote for someone who belongs to none other than their form of the religion rather than voting with their conscience. iran found that out the hard way when they voted in a puppet whose strings a tugged by a mullah who has his twisted interpretation of religion. look where they are now? bahrain is unfit for pure democracy due to it's toxic demographics. another ten more years of gradual change might do the trick....or not.

[a345xxx]

So in the west we vote along party lines! So whats the difference between that and voting along racial, religious or family lines?

[Tziganul]

Guys come on, this is an AVIATION forum, let the political comments for Face_book!!! By the way, anyone wants to join me in OUR own Hariri Square? I hear they are giving free food and drinks!

[brassplate]

So in the west we vote along party lines! So whats the difference between that and voting along racial, religious or family lines?

you are kidding me, right? this is nothing about racial or family lines. it is all about religious lines. everyone can see that. don't try and hide behind any other reason.
to answer your question in a phrase, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
why? because when religion takes hold of leadership, it makes IT'S LAWS to be THE LAW, for everyone, believer or not, which amounts to ironically, LOSS OF FREEDOM.
back to the effects to aviation in gf, according to fellow pilots still there, lots. tanks have now rolled in to the pearl roundabout area, bridges are blocked to muharraq and the airport, and pilots who live out of town will have to negotiate their way through what is becoming a hazardous and dangerous route to work.
furthermore, the company is not issuing advice of concern or even interest in the welfare of flight crew until they get to work. then gf is more than happy to work them to death, before sending them back home through the same hazardous and dangerous route back home.

[a345xxx]

The statement is about how people vote. Not unsafe work conditions or how the company regards employee safety.

[bus_aviator]

boys and girls i would like to think that before we are one religion or another or before we have one political inclination or another, once we are behind that cage door that we call a cockpit... we become professional pilots, as such lets keep the thread related to aviation so that we don't trot the wrong ally and offend some people with whom i have flown and are of all different religions and political inclinations...and do not deserve to be offended. leave the politics for the politicians.

ps we had a fat salary in the good times and we as expats suckled that titty, it would be a lack of character on our part in the "bad" times which are now to turn our backs and say it's not our problem...read between the lines we are the problem ...lets make things better for everyone...
I have just spent too much time with this thread...cheers

[MikeAlpha7]

Brassplate ....Let me tell you something , mate. You have no clue of what is really going on in this country. If you really want to know , I suggest you spend more valuable time browsing the net to learn about the issues. Maybe you should check the Western media like , NYT , Guardian or perhaps the BBC , don't bother about Arabic media , they are backwards , aren't they ?.

Spare us this stereotype nonsense.