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Old 4th Feb 2011, 15:37
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Firstly, housing is not considered part of salary in my opinion. The rest of the allowances are you salary. Lets be perfectly honest, WIFE allowances come on! If my wife spent 41.5 BD a month I would be in heaven!! These allowances have always been there and will be as a way for GF to decrease the indemnity pay outs as you only get paid on your fixed monthly salary.

The bottom line is end of the month expect 2650-2900 as a new joiner FO not including your housing allowance. If that is on a 320 its a good paying job on the EMB it is spectacular.

I can only speak for myself but NAS or any Saudi company would be way down the list as the living condition in KSA are not for me. RJ I have no idea but why are there CAPT's on EMB starting this month for GF?

GF is an interesting place. Dont expect perfection for sure. If you go into it with an open mind and a REALISTIC expectation most will be fine. The pay is as good as anywhere in ME and cockpit environment as good or better then anywhere else. Expect MINIMUM 4 years as an FO. This is a good way to start. I find some guys think they deserve or are entitled to advancement just becasue they are with a company over here. GF follows seniority, from what I have seen.

As far as Gf considering commuting dream on. Just being honest sorry.

Command well, there has been some major hiccups in the last 6 months. With a new fleet and no real operational control or experience I suspect they were being very cautious. This is unfortunate for some but a biproduct of fleet introduction. Everywhere in this region they still have the check mentality IMO, slowly some are realizing that to productively develop people u need to train and encourage. These changes are coming inshallah!!!! Now that I foget what I was actually wanting to say I will sign off, Good luck making your decision. Life is what u make it, And nowhere is that exemplified like good old BAH. An island of infinite(exaggerating) oppourtunity or a glorified jail cell your choice!!!!!
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Old 4th Feb 2011, 18:48
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I sit here in Bah right now.

I'm being honest Bah is so much better than anywhere else in the gulf

pay lasts better here too

and GF is a friendlier airline than any of the others

Go for what you think you want

i've been here since 79

and i can tell you Bah ain't half bad

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Old 5th Feb 2011, 08:07
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Ok guys,

So as an EXPAT you EXPECT to get HOUSING as part of your salary. Why can't you guys realize something, if things were so great in YOUR country, why aren't you there right now? Oh wait, let me guess, you got layed off, you weren't making enough, you were taxed too much, you had to pay schooling for your kids if you wanted to send them to good schools, you wanted a nice car but couldn't afford it on your shitty salaries, you wanted a nice house to live in but once again you shitty salary made you slave to the house for the rest of your career, you got divorced and so touch shit now your ex wife took you for everything blablablablabla, bottom line guys, NOBODY gives you SHIT in YOUR part of the world, so just because you are an expat you don't deserve a housing!!!!!!!!!! Wake up and smell the coffee!!!!! Boys coming here from Easyjets saw their salaries doubled or tripled, as well as the boys from South America, boys from the West saw their salaries doubled, AND I'M NOT INCLUDING HOUSING!!!! Folks lets face it, this ain't the west, and it's got its own problems, but I'd rather live here than anywhere else in the west where they rape you with taxes and so called social benefits!!!!

As for the rest, now that my menstruation has passed GFA is a great place to work. Upgrade went from 9 years to 7 years, to 5 years and now about 4.5 years. At the moment the company is hurting for guys with the departure of 16 of our brothers to Oman Air. The working environment is by far the best I have been in. The housing deal, well, for the moment the prices have dropped and with all the new buildings mushrooming, I suspect the prices will go down further. However, when the new bridge linking BAH-DOH will be completed, then perhaps another housing boom will arise.

Ok, enough bitching for the day, i wasted too much time on this all ready, back to drinking coffee.
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Old 5th Feb 2011, 19:27
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When do GF plan to recruit non type rated guys? I am in living in Bahrain waiting for the chance, Bahrain is what you make of it. I plan to put in my papers anyway and see what happens!
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Old 6th Feb 2011, 03:21
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We just hired 2 guys who were not type rated, but they were Bahraini! As a matter of fact they came from the 727. I can't say when they'll hire non rated expat guys, last time they did that was about 2 years ago when they hired some guys from SAMA. Prior to that 5 years ago they hired guys with only turboprop experience! Now there are too many rated guys on the market and of course they'll try to find them before hiring a non rated guy. It's a cycle, but once the west picks up, which it has all ready started to, i think there will be a few guys leaving and perhaps then.
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Old 6th Feb 2011, 04:38
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His highness's brother did represent the seller in the deal (as in GF not the government)

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Old 6th Feb 2011, 12:59
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So how was the turnout at the EK roadshow? Are we gonna be screwed even more come May due to
the obvious pilot shortage that upstairs refuse to admit to? I guess its once again time
to put serious thought into whether to stay or not since this company are very happy to
fly us all into early graves.
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Old 6th Feb 2011, 15:15
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Medical emergency onboard GF281

I hope the commander of GF281 makes a full & speedy recovery

Gulf Air flight GF281, travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Bahrain yesterday, made an unscheduled landing at Muscat, Oman after the captain took the precautionary decision to divert the aircraft soon after he began to feel ill six hours into the journey, a statement said.

The aircraft, an A330 with 136 passengers on-board, landed safely at Muscat International Airport at 1345 [Local time] and the passengers disembarked normally, it said.

The captain was taken to the Royal Hospital upon arrival by the waiting medical services where he was diagnosed as suffering a mild heart attack and his present condition is described as stable.

A new crew, which arrived from Bahrain, took over and the flight then continued its journey to Bahrain landing at Bahrain International Airport at 2010 [Bahrain time] following a six-hour delay.

Captain Nasser Al Salmi, Gulf Air chief operating officer said: “The safety of our passengers and crew is Gulf Air’s number one priority. Our pilots undergo comprehensive medical checks every six months and are trained to international aviation safety standards and requirements and regularly undergo training simulating such situations and are fully prepared to meet such emergencies. The captain of flight GF281 had a comprehensive health checkup recently and was fully fit to fly. I would like to thank our passengers for their understanding and offer our sincere apologies for the inconvenience caused.”
Source: TradeArabia
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 08:20
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Why is there no mention of the first-officer who saved the captain's life? Or the doctor and cabin crew that took care of him? Of course, the whole emphasis is put on the captain!

Anyhow, I hope he recovers fast and continues to fly as I hear he is one of our great guys to fly with. May God speed up your healing!

As for the first-officer on board you did a GREAT JOB!
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 08:46
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Why is there no mention of the first-officer who saved the captain's life? Or the doctor and cabin crew that took care of him?
Because GF didn't go public with the details, but a job well done for all involved.
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 13:02
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I am not afraid,
I am not afraid,
I am not afraid.
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 16:43
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not afraid of what?
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 17:18
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Gulf Air money making...

I just read a post where a guy talks about how great it's to make money in GFA....
I agree. But if you think about it, why do they pay such money?

Because otherwise NO ONE would go over there!! if they paid the same as other places , nobody would set a foot on bahrain.
Other places in the world offer you great social advantages and the cities are open 24/7 with many more things to do than to go to a Mall, or the british club, or go to see camels...
If money is what your looking for, take your chances in GFA,
if your looking for a COMPLETE life...specially with your family....
do as I did!!!
get the hell out of there.
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Old 7th Feb 2011, 17:24
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If they take so much care about upgrades why on earth do they let Mr. I.F. be on a left seat! I heard he is still there!!!!!
be carefull FO's if he caughs his eyeballs will pop out!!!!

far East take better account of who gets left seat!!!!
Dont we M.M.?
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Old 8th Feb 2011, 02:59
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Do you miss us already at GF? Is your life still so IN COMPLETE that you come back to the GF developments forum to complain? Is your wallet not as fat as b4? Are the city lights and the 24/7 cold stores not enough for you and your family?

I wish you luck in your search for COMPLETE-ness.

Move on.... don't look back. We are happy you left.

Last edited by Atebis; 8th Feb 2011 at 03:18.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 18:33
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Ha,ha,ha Atebis, great reply!!!
Or course I look at this forum, got many friends in Bahrain. Got many friends in GFA.
And yes, I miss bahrain but not GFA, I'm sure you're better informed that I about the 'developments' of your company.
And yes again, I left GFA, because i had a very good option to leave. maybe I could move around your CV. Where I fly, they dont take anymore DEC on the G5.
About my pocket..I'm not going to tell you how much more I'm making cause you would really hate me then. What I am going to tell you is that I fly only 9 days a month based in London. last month i was in Tokio and Chicago, and Brasil, cool ei? And it feels great. superb.
maybe you should visit if you have any time between cochin, Bagdad or your split duties.
On the other hand, my life IS complete. Is yours? don't answer, it's best for you.
And it was ME who was happy to leave, which reading between lines means that i couldnt care less of how people like you feel. In fact I know that only a few of guys like you are in GFA. Cause I remember very nice people there.
Very nice.
take care and dont feel so angry and have a rest, you're probably on stby.
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Old 9th Feb 2011, 19:19
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nice one esopees all the best for you and your new world
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 05:31
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hahahahahhahahahahaahhahahahahahahaahah esopees very nice reply! hahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhah
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 15:29
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Old 12th Feb 2011, 16:34
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Rumours of demonstrations on the 13th and 14th in BAH!
Be careful everybody.
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