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Office jockey on the board
High energy.......who are you paying to get such a deal?
PBS has been tampered with now that they figured out how to alter the results. There is only one option for FD now to retain pilots, and that is to pay for years of service or return PBS to what it was intended to be.
Did the same judges as Qatar getting World Cup also grant FD the best airline award?
PBS has been tampered with now that they figured out how to alter the results. There is only one option for FD now to retain pilots, and that is to pay for years of service or return PBS to what it was intended to be.
Did the same judges as Qatar getting World Cup also grant FD the best airline award?
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Pay for Interview?
Hey Samca,
You paid for a CTC assessment? Why did you do that? I did my assessment at CTC a couple months ago and didn't have to pay a dime! What's the deal here?
On another note; Not answering phone calls seems to be a theme with alot of places and doesn't end at CTC.
You paid for a CTC assessment? Why did you do that? I did my assessment at CTC a couple months ago and didn't have to pay a dime! What's the deal here?
On another note; Not answering phone calls seems to be a theme with alot of places and doesn't end at CTC.
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Training Centre and accomodation
I would like to get some info about the training facilities whereabouts and the hotel that FZ will put us up in for the first month or so.
2-Also if there are any recommendations for alternatives that work and might get a couple guys saving a few dollars right from the get go.
3-Do we need a car rental or easy access?
Any advice you guys can pass our way might make life a bit easier for us upon arrival.
Thanks
2-Also if there are any recommendations for alternatives that work and might get a couple guys saving a few dollars right from the get go.
3-Do we need a car rental or easy access?
Any advice you guys can pass our way might make life a bit easier for us upon arrival.
Thanks
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Welcome first of all!
(this is what I had a few years back, so likely it has changes a bit)
1. Training facilities are at CAE Emirates. (Garhoud, oposite Irish Village
and NOT at Silicon Oasis)
There are a few instances where you are required to show at HQ or Flydubai training facility at Dubai Airport Freezone. Those are mostly towards the end and the bulk of your time is spend at CAE Emirates Garhoud.
2. You will most likely be put up at Holiday Inn express or Premier Inn near Terminal 3. They are ok and good access to metro and close to the training facility and Terminal 3 itself. After the initial 4 weeks you'll have to get something for yourself. There are many options. Extending your stay where you are. You'll get the Flydubai rate and I believe it's within the housing allowance. Or get are a cheap hotel/appartment (check Deira region) or share a villa with a few guys. Note that sharing with someone you are not married to is illegal. However if the landlord allows you to share he is at fault too so you can twist his arm if he threatens with whatever.
3. Taxi's are cheap and since you are very close to the metro you can take that to CAE or into town/malls. There is a stop close to CAE Garhoud. For a cheap and chearfull rental car we get Flydubai discount at Dollar Rent-a-Car Terminal 2.
One month for roughly 1300-1500 AED. I've used them many times, even nowadays.
When you arrive, as soon as you can, get a mobile phone. You'll need your passport with a VISA stamped into it for a contract and something else I can't remember. I got a cheap pay as you go and still use it.
(this is what I had a few years back, so likely it has changes a bit)
1. Training facilities are at CAE Emirates. (Garhoud, oposite Irish Village
and NOT at Silicon Oasis)There are a few instances where you are required to show at HQ or Flydubai training facility at Dubai Airport Freezone. Those are mostly towards the end and the bulk of your time is spend at CAE Emirates Garhoud.
2. You will most likely be put up at Holiday Inn express or Premier Inn near Terminal 3. They are ok and good access to metro and close to the training facility and Terminal 3 itself. After the initial 4 weeks you'll have to get something for yourself. There are many options. Extending your stay where you are. You'll get the Flydubai rate and I believe it's within the housing allowance. Or get are a cheap hotel/appartment (check Deira region) or share a villa with a few guys. Note that sharing with someone you are not married to is illegal. However if the landlord allows you to share he is at fault too so you can twist his arm if he threatens with whatever.
3. Taxi's are cheap and since you are very close to the metro you can take that to CAE or into town/malls. There is a stop close to CAE Garhoud. For a cheap and chearfull rental car we get Flydubai discount at Dollar Rent-a-Car Terminal 2.
One month for roughly 1300-1500 AED. I've used them many times, even nowadays.
When you arrive, as soon as you can, get a mobile phone. You'll need your passport with a VISA stamped into it for a contract and something else I can't remember. I got a cheap pay as you go and still use it.
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Just one thing, on the post above, item 2, I believe High Energy meant "after 4 WEEKS you will have to find something on your own." Not 4 months... 
Also, keep in mind, if you decide to take company accommodation, you will not get your housing allowance upon arrival, nor will you get it on your first paycheck, you'll start receiving it on your second paycheck. Many in my class were burned with this little gem from FD a few months back. If you can, just ask for the allowance and find your own accommodation, this way you'll get your full housing allowance on your first paycheck, 30 days after class date.
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Also, keep in mind, if you decide to take company accommodation, you will not get your housing allowance upon arrival, nor will you get it on your first paycheck, you'll start receiving it on your second paycheck. Many in my class were burned with this little gem from FD a few months back. If you can, just ask for the allowance and find your own accommodation, this way you'll get your full housing allowance on your first paycheck, 30 days after class date.
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B737NG sims are in Garoud and Silicon Oasis. While taxi's may be cheap, I would suggest getting a rental car soon after arriving. You can get a car for around AED 1500-1800/per month and that gives you "wheels" 24/7 rather than a having a cab just for a specific journey. It gives you flexibility to explore etc etc. Silicon Oasis cab ride is more expensive and getting a cab from there can be difficult (depending on time of day).
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Greetings all
Can confirm Carb Heat's information about Holiday Inn Express, except the price they have just quoted me is 280 Aed per night inclusive but seems far more sensible than letting Flydubai keep all of the accommodation allowance.
Have a couple of questions, firstly wondered if anyone else on here has a start date in February, and if so do you want to pm me to exchange real world as opposed to virtual world contact details?
Also is it normal to still get absolutely no response to emails to the HR department, even after being given a start date and contract? Having worked in the Middle East before I'm not really surprised, but just wondering?
Thanks for any replies and all the useful stuff already here.
Can confirm Carb Heat's information about Holiday Inn Express, except the price they have just quoted me is 280 Aed per night inclusive but seems far more sensible than letting Flydubai keep all of the accommodation allowance.
Have a couple of questions, firstly wondered if anyone else on here has a start date in February, and if so do you want to pm me to exchange real world as opposed to virtual world contact details?
Also is it normal to still get absolutely no response to emails to the HR department, even after being given a start date and contract? Having worked in the Middle East before I'm not really surprised, but just wondering?
Thanks for any replies and all the useful stuff already here.
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Accommodation
Some things to keep in mind re: housing and accommodation especially when you first arrive to DXB.
1. FZ will take your entire housing allowance for the first month but they will use it to put you up in a hotel apartment rather than a simple 30 sq ft hotel room. They have used the Marriott by the creek and the Movenpick in Deira as examples of that in the past. It's up to you to decide how much space and convenience you need, but I found this setup much better than having to live in a suitcase and a bed while studying for a month.
2. You can usually extend the 1st month at wherever it is they put you up by negotiating a deal at same (sometimes better) prices, so even when FZ start giving you your housing cash you can continue to live out of your hotel apartment until you can find longer term accommodation. This can be very useful if you are non-rated and will be in training for months instead of weeks, or if you simply want to take your time finding a house. Some guys who joined in 2009 are still living at the Marriott.
3. Taking your time with finding a house or apartment is crucial. Remember that FZ won't give you any advances on housing allowance until you pass your Line Check at the end of initial training. Also, you probably know that the Dubai housing market is extremely volatile and my suggestion is to choose wisely at the beginning to avoid crazy landlords who want to up your rent 20% every year. Get a place well within your means to make room for increases, and try to get a local landlord or one that doesn't have 20 apartments and does it purely for milking rental returns. If you rush, I guarantee you will be looking for a new place after 1 year.
4. For God's sakes DO NOT call up a real estate agent and tell them you have xxx housing allowance to spend, because guess what? they will ensure that you spend it. Most expats come here clueless, and in their eagerness to hit the ground running, they do very little research and defer to agents so they end up paying top dirham for mediocre housing and drive everybody else's rents up in the process.
Bottom line: you could save a couple of thousand dirhams by opting for a small hotel room at the beginning but it will be uncomfortable and you will be very eager to move out as quickly as possible, rushing your long term decisions. Furnished/serviced hotel apartments (whether provided by FZ or self-negotiated) are a better way to transition into Dubai, and you could live there comfortably alone or with a small family for a few months while you prepare.
1. FZ will take your entire housing allowance for the first month but they will use it to put you up in a hotel apartment rather than a simple 30 sq ft hotel room. They have used the Marriott by the creek and the Movenpick in Deira as examples of that in the past. It's up to you to decide how much space and convenience you need, but I found this setup much better than having to live in a suitcase and a bed while studying for a month.
2. You can usually extend the 1st month at wherever it is they put you up by negotiating a deal at same (sometimes better) prices, so even when FZ start giving you your housing cash you can continue to live out of your hotel apartment until you can find longer term accommodation. This can be very useful if you are non-rated and will be in training for months instead of weeks, or if you simply want to take your time finding a house. Some guys who joined in 2009 are still living at the Marriott.
3. Taking your time with finding a house or apartment is crucial. Remember that FZ won't give you any advances on housing allowance until you pass your Line Check at the end of initial training. Also, you probably know that the Dubai housing market is extremely volatile and my suggestion is to choose wisely at the beginning to avoid crazy landlords who want to up your rent 20% every year. Get a place well within your means to make room for increases, and try to get a local landlord or one that doesn't have 20 apartments and does it purely for milking rental returns. If you rush, I guarantee you will be looking for a new place after 1 year.
4. For God's sakes DO NOT call up a real estate agent and tell them you have xxx housing allowance to spend, because guess what? they will ensure that you spend it. Most expats come here clueless, and in their eagerness to hit the ground running, they do very little research and defer to agents so they end up paying top dirham for mediocre housing and drive everybody else's rents up in the process.
Bottom line: you could save a couple of thousand dirhams by opting for a small hotel room at the beginning but it will be uncomfortable and you will be very eager to move out as quickly as possible, rushing your long term decisions. Furnished/serviced hotel apartments (whether provided by FZ or self-negotiated) are a better way to transition into Dubai, and you could live there comfortably alone or with a small family for a few months while you prepare.
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Don't know if things have changed but I got my housing allowance advance after passing my simcheck. The same rule applied but they were very helpful to set people up quickly.
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Likewise, I got mine after only 5 weeks from joining. There are many rules here relating to many different aspects of payroll and HR policies, but there seems to be a flexible mindset regarding the application of those policies.
If you ask for an advance on your housing allowance, you will get it.
And yes, non-response to emails from soon-to-be new joiners is completely normal. Welcome
If you ask for an advance on your housing allowance, you will get it.
And yes, non-response to emails from soon-to-be new joiners is completely normal. Welcome
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You may need feedback from someone who joined more recently then, transport jock. Those 2 hotels were the preferred ones in early to mid-2013, and the Marriott certainly way before that. Things may have changed. Try calling HR (or whoever is corresponding with you right now at FZ) and find out where they are currently putting up the new joiners.
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Guys/gals,
The wait is horrible, and leaves much to be desired from FD. I think this has been their MO unfortunately for a long time.
For whatever it's worth, the start date will come, the contract will be sent, albeit at last minute more than likely.
Hang in there guys...
The wait is horrible, and leaves much to be desired from FD. I think this has been their MO unfortunately for a long time.
For whatever it's worth, the start date will come, the contract will be sent, albeit at last minute more than likely.
Hang in there guys...
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For whatever it's worth, some of the guys that interviewed with me got a class date for 2-3 months later. Most of us got the email to start 8 months later. Granted they advised us of the delay after 6 months due to training being backed up...
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Don't worry, that's all normal. You'll hear many different versions but you'll get it at some point. The department that is dealing with you guys is small and I think they are just swamped with work. But they are really nice and will do their best for you, but just when they have time. It's just the volume of work I think. I didn't get my stuff until 2 weeks prior to starting. No tickets until 2 days prior...
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Transport Jock,
If it helps I got an email back from the Movenpick 4 days ago offering me a rate of 450dhs per night, they said it was for a "superior room" so don't know of that is the same as FD book, but they said it was an FD staff rate, but it comes out so close to the full allowance that it seems easier just to let FD sort it out.
The other problem I can see is that the hotels all want credit card details if you book, and if for any reason FD change the start dates you could possibly be left with a room paid for that you don't need.
If it helps I got an email back from the Movenpick 4 days ago offering me a rate of 450dhs per night, they said it was for a "superior room" so don't know of that is the same as FD book, but they said it was an FD staff rate, but it comes out so close to the full allowance that it seems easier just to let FD sort it out.
The other problem I can see is that the hotels all want credit card details if you book, and if for any reason FD change the start dates you could possibly be left with a room paid for that you don't need.
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fZ wannabe
Would anybody be willing to pm me a breakdown on the latest remuneration package on offer for a non rated new f/o?
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FOs pay:
Basic 17000
Housing 12600
Transport 2000
The above is all fixed so 31600 per month will be your minimum pay and you can spend it as you wish (i.e you can spend less or more on your housing but FZ will still give you 12600 per month).
Flight pay is variable (114 per block hour for FO's) and it can vary quite a lot. An 80hr month would add 9000 to your monthly pay. If you have 2 weeks leave and only do 40hrs, flight pay would be 4500.
One thing that does catch new joiners out is you receive NO flight pay during the type rating & duty pay doesn't exist at FZ, so 31600 is all you receive for the TR months.
Basic 17000
Housing 12600
Transport 2000
The above is all fixed so 31600 per month will be your minimum pay and you can spend it as you wish (i.e you can spend less or more on your housing but FZ will still give you 12600 per month).
Flight pay is variable (114 per block hour for FO's) and it can vary quite a lot. An 80hr month would add 9000 to your monthly pay. If you have 2 weeks leave and only do 40hrs, flight pay would be 4500.
One thing that does catch new joiners out is you receive NO flight pay during the type rating & duty pay doesn't exist at FZ, so 31600 is all you receive for the TR months.