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Old 1st Jul 2014, 17:24
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No flights from DWC after the runway re-opening at DXB for the forseeable future. Yes there was a leaked memo a few months ago about us moving our whole operation to DWC in 2015 etc etc...but as with anything here I'll believe it when it's in black and white ACN format. (aka internal company memo's)

It all depends on how much you are willing to spend on your rent. RAK works for some, not for others. Same with The Marina, JBR, Deira, Mirdiff, Arabian Ranches etc etc.

Getting your kids into a good school in Dubai is tricky. Looooong waitinglists and some schools are really expensive compared to the same curriculum elsewhere.
Note that a lot of schools will ask a NON Refundable fee of a minimum 500 AED to put ONE kid on a waitinglist. So it's wise to try and match rental costs with school area's/your daily school run commute as much as you can before coming out here. PM me if you want more info.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 17:49
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Traveling with your own company is really a bad joke. You can purchase firm 50% tickets and only if those tickets are available for your flight.
What do you mean exactly? You can buy firm 50% tickets for some destinations only, and not the whole network?
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 18:25
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On FZ we don't get standby tickets. We can purchase normal full fare tickets at a discounted rate that's "up to 50%" off the commercial fare.

Some flights are 30% off some 0%! All depends on the predicted loads, length of sector etc.
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Old 1st Jul 2014, 19:50
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Oh I see! Thanks!
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 02:13
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CTC assessment July 08

If anybody is going for the assessment on July 08 drop me a line. I will be driving down from Cambridge and London on Sunday. I also have a hotel booked if you are interested in dividing the cost and sharing the room.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 03:03
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I would have 2 other questions, as my starting date is approaching:

- how many days prior to your starting date do they usually fly you to Dubai?

- when does the medical coverage start?

Thank you!
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 04:08
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Flydream, in my experience it was left completely up to us to decide when to come. Most people arrived a couple of days early to recover and get their bearings. Some crazy people arrived just the night before. Your 30 days accommodation on the company start from whenever you arrive. Just pick your flights and ask your joining coordinator for them.

Medical starts straight away, I think. But there's always a grey area before you've got your residency visa stamped. Once you've got that, you're definitely covered. Usually takes a week or two depending on how much/little the government offices are working. If you're arriving during Ramadan, things might take a few more days...
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 07:54
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Hi, as far as I know the training for non type takes about 3 months and a half, my wife will reach me after the training will be completed and we will start to look for an house. do you have any suggestion on how fill the gap between the first accomodation month set by FZ and the other 2? I mean do you know any residence confortable with the training center and reasonable in price?
Thanx
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 07:57
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All your coverage and everything to do with your legal employment status officially starts on your join date. However you will find that in harsh reality until you have a residents visa/ official ability to work legally you are at the companys discretion.

Though you arrive on a temporary pink A4 employment visa, until you are scanned, finger printed and medicalled and then they have actually put the visa in your passport you will find that you have no access to any part of eGovernment so though by any reasonable standard you are legally employed you would be unlikley to be able to receive any benefit from that status until you have the visa.

What does this all mean, no bank will touch you, cannot register a car, cannot insure car, cannot sponsor family, cannot get driving licence, cannot register children at school etc, etc

That said they are pretty quick now with your visa.i.e 2-3 weeks maximum.

With respect to joining I would come 2-3 days early like advised above to get your bearings unless you are already familiar with Dubai and also bear in mind if you are one of our 2-3 groups of July joiners that you are joining in Ramadam so many things like banks etc will be closed when you arrive here and no one will/can help you coupled with you will be working 10-12 hour days for your first 3-4 weeks every weekeday. So please make sure that you bring enough cash or access to your foregin bank as possible as even when you get joining allowances etc you will find that you are forking out for a lot of initial set up.

If you need help with schools and the like then PM me like High Energy said. If you want British curriculum then I can help more than if you want Aussie or US etc. We only would send our children to 5 schools and therefore to secure a place had to pay 25,000 AED debenture for each child before they would even let us have a place. This is on top of registration fees and assesment fees, (bear in mind your child can fail entry standard assesment and you will loose the place)

On top of this you need to get a car, pay house deposits, agency fees again for housing, likely school fees deposit (at least 10% of your annual fees per child) all in all we needed just under 200,000 AED of cash before my wife had even gotten on the plane from UK. So that she arrived into our house, with the kids and school places and with a car to drive.

Last but not least, if your wife has never driven on this side of the road before that may be a factor with school runs to take into account!

Good luck!
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 08:16
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Angel Beware Dodgy Estate Agents

Current rates are:-

17,500AED + 20%tax per month in the Marriott Executive Apartments.
21,000 1 bed or 24,000 2 bed apartments in FZ preferred hotel which is the Dusit Thani on the main Sheik Zayed Rd. This is where the firm will place you if you do not ask for somewhere else or make your own arrangements.

Then we have the alternatives (fine but really you want a car for these) much more cheap and much more cheerful Abidos Hotel Apartments which all in are 13,500AED for 1bed & 16,500AED for 2 bed per month.

Premier inn Dubai Airport is 395AED per day which is pretty much 12,000AED per month. i.e your usual monthly accommodation allowance as a comparison.

The reality is say you want a 3/4 bed villa for the family you will pay 12-18,000AED pcm so you could basically get in the house slowly set everything up for your family and its the same price as being in a hotel ( granted a hotel there are no bills for wifi, DEWA etc

If You are going the 2/3 bed apartment route then you will definitely save cash by moving into your permanent accomodation sooner rather than later.

If you have friends here use their guidance as though your wife spotted the nice 3 bed in International City, Jebel Ali or Al Quoz for 110k and cannot see what the fuss is about you may find that you will sorely regret that choice within about 48 hrs of her arrival and certainly by the time any school runs or journeys to the sim and work have been done.

Bear in mind to take a smorgasbord of ideas from us on this forum. There are pilots like OKC who joined FZ back when Pontius was a pilot and therefore remember thinking that 120,000 per annum was outrageous for a 5 bed 6000 sq ft villa with a pool and complete with fluffers that 120k will now set you up in a studio in some areas,

Get online and invest lost of time now in looking at property on property finder et al. PM me once you are in country and I am happy to give you a recommend for two or three good estate agents, there are thousands of bad ones feel free to reinvent the wheel but trust us that we have all used bad ones and wasted a lot of very valuable time. And that time is valuable when you arrive as you simply will not have enough of it.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 08:47
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Vortex Thing: I resemble that remark....

Fwiw, way back when, i.e. when I was teaching Pontious how to fly, pretty much all of us lived in apartments on the the Palm Jumeirah, and the annual rent was 200k DHS (plus taxes and utilities)... but I don't recall any 'fluffers' being included in the package (more's the pity).
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 09:56
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Thanx a Lot Vortex!!! Really appreciate
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 12:56
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There are pilots like OKC who joined FZ back when Pontius was a pilot
Like 6 years ago? Ahhh. ok.

Now is a good time to negotiate rents.
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 14:04
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Jetstreem and Vortex Thing, thank you so much! I really appreciate your help and advice.
I'm starting in a couple of weeks, I was thinking of arriving about a week before to recover from the jetlag.
It will just be my wife and I, so a 1 bedroom is good enough at the beginning, we have no kids.
Vortex, I will definitely PM you just before arriving to get in touch with the real estate agents you recommend
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Old 2nd Jul 2014, 17:27
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I'll PM u as well Vortex but in 3 months
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Old 3rd Jul 2014, 07:36
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Flydubai also uses the Crown plaza hotel in a Sheik Zayed Rd for those who elect to take company accommodation for the first 30 days. Once your 30days are gone you can elect to stay at that hotel and pay them out of your own pocket (using FD housing allowance for the second month and on...). The crown plaza will charge you th same rate they charged FD, 12,000 AED.

Some have elected to move out after the first 30 days to a studio on a monthly rental basis or to a cheaper hotel (Holiday Inn, for example) until training is done and save some money. Then after a couple of months or when things settle a bit, go find your permanent place.
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Old 3rd Jul 2014, 10:48
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The cheapest (semi decent) hotel seems to be the holiday inn express close to DXB T3 and the emirates HQ. If I remember correctly its something like 250/- per night with an FZ rate. You'll have to be creative when it comes to cooking/laundry, but it is cheap. Otherwise you can take you chances in Bur Dubai with a hotel apt, but you'll almost certainly get no change out of your 12000/-

FWIW, I took the first month from the company, then spent a week in the cheapest hotel I could find, whilst I was getting my rental agreement sorted, then straight into a good apartment with my family for the next year. Be prepared to sweat a lot, chasing real estate agents around town in every spare moment, but it's worth it. An easier option (especially at this time of year) might be to extend at the hotel for the second month on the company, then go from there.

And as much as people say 'do lots of research on potential areas to live', really nothing compares to actually driving/walking around town. If you're not familiar with the city then you really need to see it for yourself for a few weeks. Plenty of people on here can give you good advice though.

I'm not certain, but you might be fortunate in that there's probably less demand for rentals in the couple of months over the summer, so getting in there sooner rather than later might just work in your favour, before september rolls back around. Just my thoughts...
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Old 3rd Jul 2014, 11:15
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hi guys do I have any chance of getting into FZ with 1200TT and 900 on type, my ATPL is also frozen... i know some airlines are leniant, are they really desperate?
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Old 4th Jul 2014, 07:51
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Zagreb and Sarajevo

Flydubai heading to Zagreb Croatia and Sarajevo Bosnia Herzegovina this winter

Anyone has any more info on new routes? And would it be possible to operate these flights with 1 crew. Considering I go into about 10 min discretion every time I do Belgrade I'm not sure how they will accommodate this. Cost index 100?
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Old 5th Jul 2014, 05:10
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To scott: your ATPL is frozen? Oh my god, who did that to you?
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