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Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged

Old 1st Jun 2015, 19:28
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Pool

Hi,

I am in the pool since 24/3. Non rated
I know a guy who went to DXB for his final interview on 18/5, and he is in the pool as well.

Apparently there are no start dates for the next 3 months for non rated people. After that, no information. So 3 months for sure no start dates... maybe more.

I must say I'm disappointed at the fact that there is NO communication between recruitment and the guys/girls who passed the assessment.

I was very happy and ecstatic when I received my pass mail and it stated thay I could receive a start date as early as May. But since that pass mail, no communication whatsoever. I have sent a few mails to them, but nothing.

Life goes on, even without flydubai.
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Old 1st Jun 2015, 21:37
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Guys, you have to understand that even if you had a start date, nothing would have changed, there is no communication.
My joining coordinator pretty much never replied to my emails.
I only got my work visa (the one you need to have when you arrive at the airport) the day before coming, and because I sent many emails.
It's just the way it is.
You have to realize that things are different here, it's another way of doing business, get used to it because it's just the beginning. Patience is the key
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 02:34
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Need your help (Frozen ATPL from CAE Oxford aviation)

Hi every one, Just got my Frozen ATPL from CAE Oxford aviation , any idea if I can apply for flydubai or they only need Unfrozen ATPL? any advice ? your help is highly appreciated.
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Old 2nd Jun 2015, 17:29
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123essame, for the Cadet maybe you can apply, for first officer you need much more than only CPL or Frozen ATPL.

today I talked to a friend I had in FZ and he told me, that until year end very limited people will join, but next year will need a lot of people, so it looks like they are preparing for this.

Anyone going 10-11 June??
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 13:22
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There is rumour no official statement however of possible new type of aircraft to be needed at Flydubai by 2020 in a plan to expand the airline operations beyond the current 5.5 hour radius of Dubai to serve secondary major cities in Asia and Europe.

Sure this is going in to Emirates territory, but I do believe there is a market for a Flydubai long haul service to secondary hubs.

Would personally like to see a Fleet of Flydubai 747-800 serve this need should it materialise...
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 14:26
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The 'second type' rumour has been around since FZ started 6 years ago. It's yet to be confirmed and will no doubt be around long enough that it will eventually come true.

More realistically, recruitment will be driven by FZ's current attrition rate which is probably the highest it's ever been.
FZ need guys, however training capacity can't keep up. We also have our highest amount of cadet pilots who take up a lot of resources, which is why FZ leans towards type rated guys as they take up less resources.

Once all the cadet pilots have left the training department you will see guys being pulled from the pool in larger numbers.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 14:58
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The max has 500 nm extra range vs the 800. It gives FD more legs to explore new places.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 17:55
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When does FZ start getting the new Max?
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Old 9th Jun 2015, 13:44
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airborneksa

you're better off....
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 03:58
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We'll get 5 MAX 8's in 2017. Flydubai is the 2nd or 3rd carrier to get the MAX so expect a 3rd quarter delivery.
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Old 10th Jun 2015, 17:59
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Pure lies

You guys must have a death wish to want to join this company. They have lied about so many incidents. The Baghdad incident as you have read on here, the other 2 shootings, the dangerous SOPs and the level of BS from the office will enfuriate any qualified pilot. This will become a cadet haven for those that are oblivious to the norms. They fire guys for standing up for their space/right in the car park or for choosing to stay within the law when told to ignore it. They ignore wake turbulence incidents that occur daily. You guys should establish the truth (ask about BGW in detail and then what the company tried to claim) before you entertain this idea. I'm so glad I escaped with my life....this company is heading in a dangerous direction.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 13:12
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I was just invited to the flydubai final interview in DXB after a successful UK selection process. Man, I'm reading stuff on here that range from "dangerous" company to "awesome" company and not too much in between. Now I know pilots, being pilots, love to complain, it's a fact. I'm now trying to weed through all of these comments to get a true idea of how this company is to work for. I have a friend that just started there fairly recently and he says it's great. If someone working there has some positive feedback could they please send me a PM? I'm super stoked to make a big job/lifestyle change, Dubai sounds like an amazing city, but I don't want to regret my decision after a year.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 19:40
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Show me one post that says FZ is awesome or amazing. 28 pilots resigned since January already.... I expect it's not because they thought it was amazing.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 20:32
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ATR Driver - if your friend has only recently joined, that's probably why he thinks it's great. From experience, the awesomeness wears off pretty quickly. The only people I know who are happy are new joiners (see above) and cadets, who are living the dream in their first job with nothing else to compare FZ to.

Dubai certainly is amazing; amazingly hot, amazingly expensive, amazingly bureaucratic, amazingly bad driving, etc etc. I'm sure it's an amazing place to visit as a tourist, but to live in, I'd suggest it's only amazingly wonderful if you're coming from a dangerous and/or third world country. Compared to Europe or North America, it ain't all that.

Within the last year, we have had our parking at HQ taken away, been banned from using personal electronic devices or reading newspapers or books in the flight deck (try reading the QRH for 10 hours), and been awarded a derisory pay rise that's worth 1% in a busy month - far less if you have leave. Not to mention all the 'incidents' which have been well described above. And that's before you consider the constant night flying, single days off and swapping from nights to days. It will grind you down.

I personally know four FOs who have recently paid to buy themselves out of the bond and go home. Considering this company offers one of the quickest 737 commands in the industry, that alone should ring warning bells.
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Old 11th Jun 2015, 23:00
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What does a cadet pilot take home out of interest?
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Old 12th Jun 2015, 07:11
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Nothing has changed since day 1.
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Old 13th Jun 2015, 17:41
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A fast command - or not

To add to what's been posted above about fast commands, there's a bad trait that's been in the company for a while now and is getting worse.

Experienced FOs are joining with an expectation (straight from the recruitment team) that they'll get a chance at a command after a year or maybe 2 with the company, depending on experience. What they don't tell you is that that will only happen if you basically get perfect scores from the trainers for two consecutive LPC/OPCs, which is completely subjective. There's very little standardisation (not really the fault of the trainers. Much more likely the fault of those running the training department) and a lot of guys and girls are now leaving or looking at leaving because they're getting fed up with the system. This is just one of the problems at the moment.

Some of the stories we're hearing about the new destinations are a little 'interesting' too!

If you join, it's a bit of a lottery whether that upgrade that you perhaps expect will ever materialize before you get fed up with the company/Dubai/landlord/cost of living and give up. I have a number of friends in that position. Lots have left or are planning on leaving.

Please be guided accordingly, as they say.
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Old 14th Jun 2015, 06:08
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BMI

I know Emirates has a BMI < 30 limit to join.

What is Fly Dubai? Do you guys have that same limit?

I'm heavy (lots of muscle around 200lbs) and my BMI by definition is 38. I have no problem passing a CAT 1, heart test, cardio test, and can work out at intensively at 4000 foot elevation (the city where I live) no problem.

Will I have problems with medical if I apply to Fly Dubai?

Thanks for the info!
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Old 14th Jun 2015, 12:23
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FZ is same policy as Emirates I believe..
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Old 14th Jun 2015, 12:58
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The medical restrictions or limits are GCAA and not company related so should be the same for EK and FZ.
We can do our medical anywhere we want to as long as it is a GCAA approved facility and then our medical is sent to the company.
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