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From Australian Federation of Air Pilots Communications
To all Members
This is an urgent message to find out if you are an Airbus Captain who has applied to Jetstar or you know of a pilot who is an Airbus Captain, are an Australian citizen and has applied to Jetstar.
You maybe aware that the Company has Federal Government approval for up to 75 non Australian citizens to join Jetstar as Direct Entry Captains.
The Federation needs your help to identify any Australian pilots who have applied and hold Command on an Airbus type such as 320/330/340.
We need to know that the pilot has applied is prepared to return and work under the Jetstar Enterprise Agreement 2008.
Our position on this that we would prefer Australians filling the jobs but in the event there are none available we will continue to work with the Company to minimise the numbers of non Australian citizens needed that provide the experience base for the existing and future First officers to get their experience hours up on type to take future commands at Jetstar.
Many if not all of these will be drawn from the Regional's and General Aviation and our commitment as an organisation is to ensure that they have the maximum career opportunity available in Australia as part of the Company's rapid expansion.
If you know of any one in the above category please contact them and provide us the information that we can get to the Company and Government quickly.
If any member has question on this topic please contact me through the Melbourne office (03) 99285737 or email [email protected].
To all Members
This is an urgent message to find out if you are an Airbus Captain who has applied to Jetstar or you know of a pilot who is an Airbus Captain, are an Australian citizen and has applied to Jetstar.
You maybe aware that the Company has Federal Government approval for up to 75 non Australian citizens to join Jetstar as Direct Entry Captains.
The Federation needs your help to identify any Australian pilots who have applied and hold Command on an Airbus type such as 320/330/340.
We need to know that the pilot has applied is prepared to return and work under the Jetstar Enterprise Agreement 2008.
Our position on this that we would prefer Australians filling the jobs but in the event there are none available we will continue to work with the Company to minimise the numbers of non Australian citizens needed that provide the experience base for the existing and future First officers to get their experience hours up on type to take future commands at Jetstar.
Many if not all of these will be drawn from the Regional's and General Aviation and our commitment as an organisation is to ensure that they have the maximum career opportunity available in Australia as part of the Company's rapid expansion.
If you know of any one in the above category please contact them and provide us the information that we can get to the Company and Government quickly.
If any member has question on this topic please contact me through the Melbourne office (03) 99285737 or email [email protected].
and you get this aussies bit*%%*g about equal opp here!! what nerve...
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You are a dumb ass colonial Blueside^. That is possibly the most ill-conceived post ever on this site. Grow up and delete your naive question.
Let the Irishman fill Jetstar with DEC.
Let the Irishman fill Jetstar with DEC.
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Dear BS. Although you may not be an Australian you must know that they, the Australians, are the most Xenophobic bunch of morons this side of the black stump. So I am sorry to say you are wasting your well intended efforts. It is sheer hypocricy that they deny entry to qualified people. Most of them are there because they had a long distant Granddad that had the impressive criminal acumen to Steal a Sausage in Southend!
What fun!
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What fun!
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Hey Guys - I am Aussi pilot with EK, did the Jetstar dec 330 thing - for a month - then came back.
Still have mates there as DEC's - its a job but they don't like it much...some looking for other overseas options again... I did Virgin OZ DEC interview the other day ( now on 777) ... withdrew application after interview in DXB just not enough cash... I made more in real terms my last year as an Ansett 146 F/O ( in real terms ten years ago or so) and they want me to push a 777 around in the the LHS for the same amount!
Then EK gave 14 weeks profit share and now a 12 % or so pay rise with a little more to come with the utilities ( accom) allowance shortly.
Just spent a week in Melbourne having a good time visited great malaysian restraunt called little Malaysia which all you ex RAAFies will know of.. and a week in Perth doing the same...
... but after it cost me $100 to fill up my Z06 corvette the other day at BP in South Perth( those 427/7 litre motors burn a bit of gas!) when I can do it for 100 dhs in DXB (@ 3.5 Forex) ....how much do I really want to come back to struggle??
Bottom line .... grass is not greener at home ( it just grows taller over the septic tank) ....
So I say.... come on down to the yarpies/POMS etc... and any one else who wants to come and join a low paying hard working job to live in Australia and continue to fund the Rudd system of communist equality ...good luck to you as it is a great place to live - just ****ty to work there!
I feel sorry for the guys that want the job to head back home and missed out... but really need to make sure that you are prepared for the return as after almost ten years out of the place it is not the same as it was when I left......
Just my 2 cents, less tax input.... am happy to take any flak... hit me... go on ... you know ya wanna...
Still have mates there as DEC's - its a job but they don't like it much...some looking for other overseas options again... I did Virgin OZ DEC interview the other day ( now on 777) ... withdrew application after interview in DXB just not enough cash... I made more in real terms my last year as an Ansett 146 F/O ( in real terms ten years ago or so) and they want me to push a 777 around in the the LHS for the same amount!
Then EK gave 14 weeks profit share and now a 12 % or so pay rise with a little more to come with the utilities ( accom) allowance shortly.
Just spent a week in Melbourne having a good time visited great malaysian restraunt called little Malaysia which all you ex RAAFies will know of.. and a week in Perth doing the same...
... but after it cost me $100 to fill up my Z06 corvette the other day at BP in South Perth( those 427/7 litre motors burn a bit of gas!) when I can do it for 100 dhs in DXB (@ 3.5 Forex) ....how much do I really want to come back to struggle??
Bottom line .... grass is not greener at home ( it just grows taller over the septic tank) ....
So I say.... come on down to the yarpies/POMS etc... and any one else who wants to come and join a low paying hard working job to live in Australia and continue to fund the Rudd system of communist equality ...good luck to you as it is a great place to live - just ****ty to work there!
I feel sorry for the guys that want the job to head back home and missed out... but really need to make sure that you are prepared for the return as after almost ten years out of the place it is not the same as it was when I left......
Just my 2 cents, less tax input.... am happy to take any flak... hit me... go on ... you know ya wanna...
Well you are honst woodja, but Jetstar may be the last chance to go home in a reasonable position. 20 years in the dessert will certainly cause Damage. You had home on a platter and threw it away. Money is not everything you will have lots more than the Jetstar guys but you will always be an EK slave.
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Good spot for sure, the ole GFA. In fact the best in the world. When the next coalition party runs the place, maybe I will reconsider heading back. Meanwhile, a dole-bludger-loving, socialist government ain't seeing a cent from me. And porn*/death*/shet* ain't the job to be earning crap yet still with a big tax bill to fund more dole bludgers and a socialist government.
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Rabbitwear - just trying to put some balance into the argument about heading home and the fact that it is not that bad in the Gulf ( OK some might disagree with that and it is not all beer and skittles) ... I guess I am lucky as I have the option to head home at almost any time and rejoin the RAAF as they are pretty happy to have ex QFI's back .
Maybe not just yet and if and when I do it will be on about half what I am on now and less tax.. so just trying to say that money is not my primary driver but I dont want to work for organisations like a dog to make other folks rich ( unless I am getting a big share myself).
Tell me how Geoff Dixon can jump up and down about the engineers wanting a 5% rise and yet look at his payrises lately? I know it is not that simple but
don't really see much equity there?
As far as throwing away home on a platter - I left of my own accord to come to the gulf and it was the best move I ever made really. As when I want to head home now I can do it on my terms due to the leaps and bounds of the income stream/property bubble/minimal tax that EK gave me the opportunity to exploit (but still keen to see them throw basings up one day - then how would the nay-sayers react?)
Granted I don't get to vote for how what fees, charges , SALIK etc I get gouged for - but it seems that even if you live in place where you do get to vote ... it doesn't make much difference anyway you still get gouged...so much for democracy eh?
Anyway, just like to point out the pros and cons of living/working in OZ vs the Gulf.
Maybe not just yet and if and when I do it will be on about half what I am on now and less tax.. so just trying to say that money is not my primary driver but I dont want to work for organisations like a dog to make other folks rich ( unless I am getting a big share myself).
Tell me how Geoff Dixon can jump up and down about the engineers wanting a 5% rise and yet look at his payrises lately? I know it is not that simple but
don't really see much equity there?
As far as throwing away home on a platter - I left of my own accord to come to the gulf and it was the best move I ever made really. As when I want to head home now I can do it on my terms due to the leaps and bounds of the income stream/property bubble/minimal tax that EK gave me the opportunity to exploit (but still keen to see them throw basings up one day - then how would the nay-sayers react?)
Granted I don't get to vote for how what fees, charges , SALIK etc I get gouged for - but it seems that even if you live in place where you do get to vote ... it doesn't make much difference anyway you still get gouged...so much for democracy eh?
Anyway, just like to point out the pros and cons of living/working in OZ vs the Gulf.
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Woodie - Let's take a look at your history.
Left for Oz and Jetstar eighteen months ago, but came back after a few weeks.
Interviewed with Virgin six weeks ago.
Now thinking about the RAAF.
But still writes that 'it is not that bad in the Gulf'. Are you trying to convince the audience or yourself?
You're giving a fair impression of a one man escape committee that won't commit.
Left for Oz and Jetstar eighteen months ago, but came back after a few weeks.
Interviewed with Virgin six weeks ago.
Now thinking about the RAAF.
But still writes that 'it is not that bad in the Gulf'. Are you trying to convince the audience or yourself?
You're giving a fair impression of a one man escape committee that won't commit.
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Fair enough Idler - I guess what I have been doing is looking around to see what the options are ... so I do take your point about the commit thing...
I have been living in hope that the deals that get put forward are actually worth taking ...but after several 'look sees' I think the best place for me is to stay put.....for a few more years then chuck it in and take it easy.
But it certainly doesn't hurt to have a listen to what they have to say in the interview etc. I think that for the right folks either of the options would have been great... just not me...
Sorry if I am a floosie...its just after years of prostituting myself I dont know when to stop..
I have been living in hope that the deals that get put forward are actually worth taking ...but after several 'look sees' I think the best place for me is to stay put.....for a few more years then chuck it in and take it easy.
But it certainly doesn't hurt to have a listen to what they have to say in the interview etc. I think that for the right folks either of the options would have been great... just not me...
Sorry if I am a floosie...its just after years of prostituting myself I dont know when to stop..
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AND, sispanys, I think if you read really, really carefully between the lines in at least one of the posts above, someone may have slightly inferred something vaguely demeaning about women.
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Can you wankers read english down there? Or did you suffer a trailer park education in the bush? Maybe you are just slow from an iodine deficiency and miss the point completely?
The point, is that a Trade Union openly representing thousands of Australian Pilots is fishing here for legally useful data regarding the closed Australian job market when many hundreds of other Australian pilots prostitute happily and profitably on the relatively open global job market.
You cant enjoy it both ways for long. Woodya and your AFAP mates should give it some thought or bugger off. How many careers has advice from the AFAP already destroyed? Hard to imagine how that committee of fools still has a registered telephone number? This thread is proof that they are still way out of touch.
The point, is that a Trade Union openly representing thousands of Australian Pilots is fishing here for legally useful data regarding the closed Australian job market when many hundreds of other Australian pilots prostitute happily and profitably on the relatively open global job market.
You cant enjoy it both ways for long. Woodya and your AFAP mates should give it some thought or bugger off. How many careers has advice from the AFAP already destroyed? Hard to imagine how that committee of fools still has a registered telephone number? This thread is proof that they are still way out of touch.
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Hi Black Stain,
Kindly name one developed country with the ability to train sufficient pilots which allows non citizens/residents to take jobs in prference to its own people.
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Kindly name one developed country with the ability to train sufficient pilots which allows non citizens/residents to take jobs in prference to its own people.
sis, the fact that you ask that question means I would have no chance of explaining.
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Resident status granted by a government to foreign workers, whether it be a passport or permit, is a separate issue to an employment contract offered by a business, and irrelevant to this argument.
But whilst we are here, if you purchase a property during your stay in the UAE or Qatar dont you also get a residence permit, so you can live there forever if you chose to? Are you saying Wizofoz that Dubai and Abu Dhabi are not developed cities?
You ask where Wizofoz? I can think of many mostly happy semi-permanent expatriots serving out their careers in Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan & Korea. Are these not developed nations Wizofoz? And if not happy I am sure they would have already applied to Jetstar. Are you suggesting Wizofoz that an airline be ordered to employ an Australian that it has previously rejected, over a suitable foreigner?
Having said that I am sure you are happy to see foreigners driving cabs and serving at 7/11. You guys just can't stomach the thought of a foreign pilot, and for that reason No Joke criticism is fair.
To wrap this argument up what we now need is for one you colonial patriots to step up and state that there are plenty of qualified pilots in OZ looking for a job. Please.....
But whilst we are here, if you purchase a property during your stay in the UAE or Qatar dont you also get a residence permit, so you can live there forever if you chose to? Are you saying Wizofoz that Dubai and Abu Dhabi are not developed cities?
You ask where Wizofoz? I can think of many mostly happy semi-permanent expatriots serving out their careers in Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan & Korea. Are these not developed nations Wizofoz? And if not happy I am sure they would have already applied to Jetstar. Are you suggesting Wizofoz that an airline be ordered to employ an Australian that it has previously rejected, over a suitable foreigner?
Having said that I am sure you are happy to see foreigners driving cabs and serving at 7/11. You guys just can't stomach the thought of a foreign pilot, and for that reason No Joke criticism is fair.
To wrap this argument up what we now need is for one you colonial patriots to step up and state that there are plenty of qualified pilots in OZ looking for a job. Please.....
Nice "Straw Man" argument, Black stain. Take a part of what I said and pretend it was ALL I said- Care to have another read of what I said and actually respond to it, not what you choose to pretend I said?
Now, take a slow read of the bold writing, and get back to me...
There are plenty of qualified pilots in OZ looking for a job, and plenty more Expat Aussies who would return for a half reasnoble package. Do you somehow dispute this?
Kindly name one developed country with the ability to train sufficient pilots which allows non citizens/residents to take jobs in preference to its own people.
To wrap this argument up what we now need is for one you colonial patriots to step up and state that there are plenty of qualified pilots in OZ looking for a job.