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Old 22nd September 2008 | 15:19
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Since when do you believe in these guys ?

Since when did they say anything that became true ?

They are lying more than any UAE real estate broker

If you trust them, good for you, but anyone who did in the last 2 years came back with empty promises.....
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Old 23rd September 2008 | 18:15
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From: sunny land
Regarding the 320, upgrades were never supposed to happen but due to lack of DEC applicants, RH was forced to upgrade a few to avoid canceling any flights. They now have lots of DEC applications.
I really doubt so. With 30 airlines down the drain in the last 14 months alone, the applications should be coming in like spams.
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Old 24th September 2008 | 19:29
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From: Sand dune 3
The vast majority of us who are not in the Al Jazeera building have taken the decision to join clubs...
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Old 24th September 2008 | 19:41
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From: Oasis
So, what exactly is the problem in the Al Jazeera building and the "club"? Do the Cabin people not want the pilots around or something??

Could someone please comment on the housing for the single pilots with no familes? I'm just wondering if they come equipped with basic appliances like stoves, refridgerators, washer/dryer, and dishwasher? Thanks for any info/insight.
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Old 26th September 2008 | 18:19
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Those folks concerned about DEC, it was again confirmed (by RH) at the Pilots meeting on thursday that the DEC recruitment had finished.
Upgrades would come from within EY.
He did mention that a few guys who already had firm offers would start between now and Jan 09...but no new DECs are anticipated.
I believe the previously interviewed DECs are in a holding pool just incase they are needed.
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Old 26th September 2008 | 20:34
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Was there any talk about annual leave tickets being confirmed in business/pearl at the pilot meeting?
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Old 27th September 2008 | 13:31
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No! I dont remember it being mentioned at all....just lots of talk about pilot fatigue, a/c delivery dates and an extra 777 coming next year.
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Old 27th September 2008 | 15:20
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From: sheraton
Guys,

sorry to be the party pooper here but use your common sense please.

EY has 100+ airplanes on order and at the moment you allready have an FO shortage. Do you really think all upgrades can/will be done from the inside?
Forget it!

DEC will be needed for many years to come. Sure, internal upgrades will continue/increase but it is impossible to go without an influx of DEC!

Same thing happened/is happening at QR. Same promisses where made, same !!!! we are in!
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Old 27th September 2008 | 19:00
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From: Sand dune 3
The EY order is spread over many years, there are many qualified F/Os in the company so by doing the numbers I think any DEC recruitment will be minimal.

There is a F/O shortage? on which fleet?
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Old 11th October 2008 | 21:47
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Qr X Ey

Any ex QR around??? I need to know the REAL differences between EY and Qr.....PM if possible.

rgds
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Old 12th October 2008 | 00:15
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From: Among camels and dunes
Varig737,
I need to know the REAL differences between EY and Qr
I can't think of one pilot who left EY to go to QR, but I can think of many who left QR and came to EY, including cabin crew.

I also know of one pilot who left EY and went to EK, however I also know a few pilots who left EK, who came to EY.
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Old 12th October 2008 | 00:55
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I can't think of one pilot who left EY to go to QR, but I can think of many who left QR and came to EY, including cabin crew.

I also know of one pilot who left EY and went to EK, however I also know a few pilots who left EK, who came to EY.
Your deep in philosophical waysI respect that
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Old 12th October 2008 | 06:36
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From: Sun
Dear Varig, the REAL differences between QR and EY is that in QR things cannot get any worst. In EY things can always get worst...
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Old 12th October 2008 | 13:52
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From: mombasa
Well, most of the things are expensive, i think only Car and gas (fuel) are cheap here, well at least this place are much..much..better than Doha..for me... A 320? yeah slight busy..but thats our job ....flying!...have a nice wonderful day in Abu dhabi.
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Old 13th October 2008 | 03:19
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From: fl390
can you give us some samples of car prices , I am wondering if its better to buy there verses shipping from home.
interested in ford explorer and expedition 07/08 models.
thanks F.D
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Old 13th October 2008 | 05:25
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From: Toronto
check out REEM AUTOMOBILE, DUBAI, ABU DHABI, THE BEST USED CAR DEALER IN UAE

or even better check out GNAds4U.com - Wheels
good luck!
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Old 13th October 2008 | 06:46
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maybe this is unheard of in some parts of the world, but there are actually a lot of places where you don't need a car in the first place/ only for special occasions/ a few miles daily. I can't see the argument about car fuel when thinking about a move to the sandpit from e.g. Europe. I really don't see the advantage for anybody from a western medium quality airline up to apply ???

climate : terrible most of the year

traffic : grueling, life threatening simply

labor union : none

culture : big malls and even bigger cars. great.

inflation : double digits

management : unreliable, no job protection laws whatsoever

seniority list : worthless, since most won't stay anyway the whole career

housing : erratic, no guarantees regarding where you end up. are you guys really willed to gamble on the place your families has to live thereafter??

flight time limitations, overtime etc : as they please, general hours above average

currency: US$. well...



plus you loose your friends at home, don't see your wider family anymore, internet/movies/media are restricted, religious issues, middle-age conservative mindset among the locals, high school fees, common law is sharia,language barriers,role of women in islamic countries,etc etc., the list is endless.

I can see the incentive of an early command on a wide body, but nobody cares for that when in a few years you leave, eventually you are going to end up at the bottom of a seniority list again! Or are you all planning on becoming a contractor?

you always hear the argument of a criminal-less society. I believe this is a myth in the first place but anyway, the risk of dying on sheik zaheed road is probably a hundred times higher than becoming a fatal victim of a crime in the western world.


why are you going there ??? I don't get it..

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Old 13th October 2008 | 13:42
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Sisyphos!
I guess you wont be coming then!
Sounds like your better suited to Europe!
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Old 13th October 2008 | 14:22
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From: fl390
thanks dubble. F.D
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Old 14th October 2008 | 14:13
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From: europe
it was really meant as an honest question. I do not want to generalise or even insult anybody. It's just that I really do not understand it.
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