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Old 17th May 2008, 14:20
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No prejudice it is experience.
I have been there and I found serious health risks.
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Old 17th May 2008, 16:06
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AL,

SriLankan Airlines...Time for you to meet Dr. S.
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Old 17th May 2008, 18:35
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He AXUM? If nothing suits you on any continent, and your only option is EY, well too bad, go for it and don't come back here complaining.

Yo have been warned.

For the JAA licence, be aware that converting any ICAO licence to JAA through Ireland or Luxembourg is pretty easy.

Korean do hire based anywhere where KAL operate 3 times a week, gives you much choice.

Chinese carriers base in Europe and hire F/O's.

And what about Cathay ?? Strong reputation, know how to deal with expats, and correct seniority and unions.

EK is desperate, so it shouldn't be that hard to succeed the interview. Get the correct books and try hard enough, instead of whining.

The major problem with EY is that they lie all the time and they jeopardize your life.

By the way, Air Mauritius, not anymore the exodus, as they are paid in EUR......Many ex MK consider coming back there coz EY sucks so much.

For Sri Lankan, oups.... that was a mistake
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Old 17th May 2008, 18:39
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So with an annual inflation running at 10-15 % yearly, let's say at least 30 % in total looking back across the last 3 years, what has been our salary increase over the same period ? We just got 4 %, I know. What we get earlier ? I recon that I've at least lost 20 % of my bying power here in the UAE over that period...and it will get lots worse....and then we have VAT coming next year.....fantastic....
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Old 17th May 2008, 20:24
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I do believe you, EY is not the perfect airlines, but I also think that it couldn't be so bad. Tell me why the pilots don't move to EK? Just 120 km away!

go for it and don't come back here complaining.
Maybe I go for it and come back complain...

For the JAA licence, be aware that converting any ICAO licence to JAA through Ireland or Luxembourg is pretty easy.
Could you tell me more about it?
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Old 17th May 2008, 21:50
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Im not sure converting any ICAO licence to JAA is that easy, certainly not through Ireland....its got a lot tougher than it used to be.
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Old 18th May 2008, 01:37
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Tell me why the pilots don't move to EK? Just 120 km away!
I was told of a no poaching agreement between EK and EY, can anyone confirm this ?
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Old 18th May 2008, 05:52
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Within the past few months pilots have gone from EY to EK.
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Old 18th May 2008, 10:50
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yes, but no one has ever gone from EK to EY. Except maybe one who promptly quit.
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Old 18th May 2008, 15:21
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Road show announcement housing allowance 170000

Now HR email 20 % increase which is to 20% of 120000 AED equal 24000 on top of the 120000 giving us 144000 AED which gives you access on the market to a small 2 bedrooms flat in the darkest suburb of AUH.

First, HR, please go back to 1st grade math

Second, for the others, stop lying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Up to 10 ID50's per year, but you can't use them coz the clever HR online system prevent you from making any booking up to Dec 2008, then 2009 is not open to anything.

Clever again..............

Schooling, well thank you but still below average schooling fees, and still as from 4 years.

Now you ask why it's anything but EY...
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Old 18th May 2008, 15:40
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Togalk,

Yes, there is a B777 driver, EK to EY and I also seem to remember the Chief Pilot from EK, and now a few others on DEC A340 Airbus fleet have arrived on line.

Not sure the reasons, although they must be very good unto themselves, but yes, some have crossed westwards along the coast.

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Old 18th May 2008, 16:24
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Guys
Why don't you consider Qatar Airways ... I'm sure you'll be happy
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Old 18th May 2008, 17:16
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Sure !!

EY is no better than QR, maybe worse these days
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Old 18th May 2008, 19:35
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Thumbs down NEW EXTRA PACK for EY

WILL this comfort the economic CRISIS IN UAE


For eligible staff, housing allowances will rise by 20 per cent with effect from July 1.

Education allowances (to meet child schooling costs) will rise also by 20 per cent from September 1 for eligible staff.

All staff will be able to purchase ID50 tickets in all cabins for themselves and immediate family (spouse, children and parents) from today (May 18). Please note that children under 12 years are not entitled to first class.

Also from today, the number of tickets for family and friends will increase from four to 10 per year and can be purchased in any combination of ID90 and ID50 tickets.

CAN we AFFORD them (10) ,WE could if they did not charge the TAX like they do in other Major Airlines .

They just do not know how to Squeeze your TAX FREE Salary

And if you are extra nice we can include you in a draw for Bonjovi tickets There should have been a special discount price for all CREW .

Are we not the National Airline OF U.A.E.
Sure does not Feel Lke IT
I have 4 pairs of complimentary tickets available for the Bon Jovi concert at Emirates Palace on Tuesday 20th May. There are 2 pairs for the ‘Platinum Pit’ (doesn’t sound very comfortable but the tickets have a face value of AED 890 each) and 2 pairs of seated tickets (face value AED 590).

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Old 18th May 2008, 19:57
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So inflation in UAE has risen by 10-15 % yearly over the last few years which combines to at least 30 % over the last 3 years..how high has our payrise been during those 3 years ? We easily have taken a 20 % loss in purchase power over those 3 years...Ok, I am not saying that EY has any obligation to compensate us for the inflation but I am telling prospective pilots thinking of joining EY to think twice. Here you will not save any money.
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Old 18th May 2008, 19:58
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And there is this to come and a worderful statement from Dubai Customs
Dubai Customs said on Saturday the introduction of a value added tax (VAT) system in the UAE and wider GCC would strengthen the economy and raise standards of living across the region
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/51951...ards-of-living
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Old 19th May 2008, 06:16
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I can think of 4 on the B777 alone who have moved from EK to EY.

I can think of 1 again on B777 who has moved from EY to EK.

This thread sure is intimidating for anyone wanting to say anything good about EY. Its so easy to resign yourself to leave such threads to the same few who continually trash the Airline. So much vitriol and sadly nothing much constructive.

Its not perfect at EY but I and my family are happy and live within our means, which is still possible but becoming more difficult. I try not to think about those in the office and are far less stressed because of it, but I do sometimes succumb. I make the most of what is given, enjoy work, Abu Dhabi, and life as a whole and could not ask for more. Its not because I am not greedy maybe just easier to please.

I'm sure I will come under fire soon but for those very unhappy at EY please realise that doesn't mean we all are.

Good luck to all those thinking of leaving I really do hope you find what you are looking for.

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Old 19th May 2008, 09:22
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He Men on pause, go back to your management or recruitment seat and give us a break.

This is for real people living real lives, trying to survive, working their as off for so little reward and so much pain, while others fly their offices coz they are :

A. unable to fly an airplane properly
B. too busy licking aes
C. both of the above

People left EK for better life, on vain promises, one of them already left back to Europe, coz they realize that EY keeps on lying all the time, and fails to be consistent on any aspect.
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:17
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I think you need to clarify the EK to EY movers....tell us why they moved!
The majority (except 1!) were AUH based Emiraties!....

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Old 19th May 2008, 15:06
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And besides....

And besides all the above....

I didn't win the Bon Jovi Tickets:ouch

Cest La Vie,

Maybe I'll get the next one. (Probably be Englebert Humperdink!)
 


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